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		<title>By: 3-15 INF</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/23/lets-talk-defense/comment-page-2/#comment-223708</link>
		<dc:creator>3-15 INF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is you&#039;d never get to use the place cuz the authorities cart you off to the loony bin or raid the place like Waco long before the outbreak. An island with a bridge access and fence and gate blocking the road in would offer better protection and longer term survivability. Plus, we ahve all seen what happens when your&#039;e underground surrounded by zombies and the lights go out- no thanks! I&#039;ll stay away from the underground TOMB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is you&#8217;d never get to use the place cuz the authorities cart you off to the loony bin or raid the place like Waco long before the outbreak. An island with a bridge access and fence and gate blocking the road in would offer better protection and longer term survivability. Plus, we ahve all seen what happens when your&#8217;e underground surrounded by zombies and the lights go out- no thanks! I&#8217;ll stay away from the underground TOMB</p>
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		<title>By: Shoku</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/23/lets-talk-defense/comment-page-2/#comment-215061</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue with a tower is pretty much someone driving a truck into it. Usually not going to have zombies doing that but unless you pack a place like this full way beyond capacity you&#039;re going to have to turn people away from your tower from time to time and given the possibility that will mean driving some armored vehicle into your snipers nest.

As for the airlock style entrance people greatly underestimate the ability of machinery to mangle human flesh- if you doing it right the people inside the inner door could just turn a crank to force the outer door shut again and then all you have is a handful of zombies in an enclosed space that could be pretty easily dealt with if they don&#039;t stop moving of their own accord after a couple of days.

Seeing as people kept mentioning submarines it seems odd that nobody wanted to install some sort of periscope for the doors. The submarine version could be easily blocked or destroyed but if you stuck it within one of the black glass ceiling bubbles a lot of supermarkets stick their cameras in you&#039;d mostly do away with both of those problems and you&#039;d need someone drive-a-truck-into-your-tower crazy to really render it useless. Well, total darkness would also make it pretty nonfunctional but if you&#039;re underground for very long and not in blinding darkness yourself you&#039;ve got a way of lighting things up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue with a tower is pretty much someone driving a truck into it. Usually not going to have zombies doing that but unless you pack a place like this full way beyond capacity you&#8217;re going to have to turn people away from your tower from time to time and given the possibility that will mean driving some armored vehicle into your snipers nest.</p>
<p>As for the airlock style entrance people greatly underestimate the ability of machinery to mangle human flesh- if you doing it right the people inside the inner door could just turn a crank to force the outer door shut again and then all you have is a handful of zombies in an enclosed space that could be pretty easily dealt with if they don&#8217;t stop moving of their own accord after a couple of days.</p>
<p>Seeing as people kept mentioning submarines it seems odd that nobody wanted to install some sort of periscope for the doors. The submarine version could be easily blocked or destroyed but if you stuck it within one of the black glass ceiling bubbles a lot of supermarkets stick their cameras in you&#8217;d mostly do away with both of those problems and you&#8217;d need someone drive-a-truck-into-your-tower crazy to really render it useless. Well, total darkness would also make it pretty nonfunctional but if you&#8217;re underground for very long and not in blinding darkness yourself you&#8217;ve got a way of lighting things up.</p>
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		<title>By: HVACBALLA</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/23/lets-talk-defense/comment-page-2/#comment-202966</link>
		<dc:creator>HVACBALLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, those are a lot of great ideas, but how about this.
If there were no way birds could be infected like they were in the Resident Evil 3 movie then all the tower theories would be a great idea. If birds could be infected, bunkers would be the best structures to build. Ok noone said this as a defense, Tar moats surrounding all entrances and exits. If they were good enough to kill dinosaurs, saber tooth tigers, and wooly mammoths then there good enough for zombies fast ones and slow ones. 
It would have to be long enough to stop cheetahs from jumping them. If moats were used you could even build them around entire villages, you wouldnt even need walls. Use the lack of walls as decoys. Picture this, tons of uninfected people as a mass decoy for all zeds hey they&#039;d walk right into the moat and sink a 1/2 mile to their doom and be there for 10,000 years or more. That way there would be no need for guns after the moat is constructed.
 Another thing you&#039;d be killing masses of zeds without firing a single round. So a moat is the ultimate zeds defense, guns would only be used for rescue and serveillance missions. Now if birds were a factor forget about seeing the sun ever again unless you could build an electrified dome the size of the New Orleans Saints Super Dome, this would protect against birds, now you may say that blood from the birds would fall through the fence but thats where a Bio-Sphere would come in handy. Miles of Bio-Spheres used until all birds are irradicated.
Huge biospheres surrounded by a bigger electric sphere with a 1/2 mile deep and long tar feeled moat. So forget about sound dampning, you&#039;d want these zeds to smell us and come and meet there doom. 
The tar would also get rid of the smell of death in the air.

Another thing, dont think about incenerating them because you could make the stinking virus airborn, then you and everyone with you&#039;d be fucked. 

PS: If theres a ZEDS epidemic, money would be obsolete and couldn&#039;t even be used as Ass paper from fear of chaffing, OUCH. All that would matter is raw materials and baby making, yee haw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, those are a lot of great ideas, but how about this.<br />
If there were no way birds could be infected like they were in the Resident Evil 3 movie then all the tower theories would be a great idea. If birds could be infected, bunkers would be the best structures to build. Ok noone said this as a defense, Tar moats surrounding all entrances and exits. If they were good enough to kill dinosaurs, saber tooth tigers, and wooly mammoths then there good enough for zombies fast ones and slow ones.<br />
It would have to be long enough to stop cheetahs from jumping them. If moats were used you could even build them around entire villages, you wouldnt even need walls. Use the lack of walls as decoys. Picture this, tons of uninfected people as a mass decoy for all zeds hey they&#8217;d walk right into the moat and sink a 1/2 mile to their doom and be there for 10,000 years or more. That way there would be no need for guns after the moat is constructed.<br />
 Another thing you&#8217;d be killing masses of zeds without firing a single round. So a moat is the ultimate zeds defense, guns would only be used for rescue and serveillance missions. Now if birds were a factor forget about seeing the sun ever again unless you could build an electrified dome the size of the New Orleans Saints Super Dome, this would protect against birds, now you may say that blood from the birds would fall through the fence but thats where a Bio-Sphere would come in handy. Miles of Bio-Spheres used until all birds are irradicated.<br />
Huge biospheres surrounded by a bigger electric sphere with a 1/2 mile deep and long tar feeled moat. So forget about sound dampning, you&#8217;d want these zeds to smell us and come and meet there doom.<br />
The tar would also get rid of the smell of death in the air.</p>
<p>Another thing, dont think about incenerating them because you could make the stinking virus airborn, then you and everyone with you&#8217;d be fucked. </p>
<p>PS: If theres a ZEDS epidemic, money would be obsolete and couldn&#8217;t even be used as Ass paper from fear of chaffing, OUCH. All that would matter is raw materials and baby making, yee haw.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know this is off subject but i think the government is setting us up for a apocalypse


#1 they teach us not to hit someone back
#2 they teach us to get the local authorities for help
#3 in school they teach us nothing about guns except that supposently there bad
and #4 to never kill any thing 



you guys agree with me???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know this is off subject but i think the government is setting us up for a apocalypse</p>
<p>#1 they teach us not to hit someone back<br />
#2 they teach us to get the local authorities for help<br />
#3 in school they teach us nothing about guns except that supposently there bad<br />
and #4 to never kill any thing </p>
<p>you guys agree with me???</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/23/lets-talk-defense/comment-page-2/#comment-200226</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe you&#039;re all discussing your zombie survival plans here. You&#039;re actually giving other people the opportunity to follow you and take your shelter idea before you can, or use your idea to set up another survivor group in your area.

When it comes to the zombie epidemic, the LAST thing you want is a rival group, or a lot of people in your own group. Resources become very precious when every forage risks zombie feasting, and you don&#039;t want someone else taking what could be yours- whether they&#039;re already yours but used to feed someone else in your group, or you can&#039;t get them because your rivals found them first. Of course in the long term a different gender partner is essential for repopulation, but in the short-term, whilst the zombies are still widespread, the last thing you want is someone you have an emotional attachment to.

The only way to do it is alone. And I don&#039;t intend to let anyone in on how I&#039;ll do that, or else I&#039;ll start having competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe you&#8217;re all discussing your zombie survival plans here. You&#8217;re actually giving other people the opportunity to follow you and take your shelter idea before you can, or use your idea to set up another survivor group in your area.</p>
<p>When it comes to the zombie epidemic, the LAST thing you want is a rival group, or a lot of people in your own group. Resources become very precious when every forage risks zombie feasting, and you don&#8217;t want someone else taking what could be yours- whether they&#8217;re already yours but used to feed someone else in your group, or you can&#8217;t get them because your rivals found them first. Of course in the long term a different gender partner is essential for repopulation, but in the short-term, whilst the zombies are still widespread, the last thing you want is someone you have an emotional attachment to.</p>
<p>The only way to do it is alone. And I don&#8217;t intend to let anyone in on how I&#8217;ll do that, or else I&#8217;ll start having competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Trail</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/23/lets-talk-defense/comment-page-2/#comment-197211</link>
		<dc:creator>Trail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like M4357R0&#039;s idea about the doors there should absolutely be two doors to the outside both of which cannot be opened at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like M4357R0&#8217;s idea about the doors there should absolutely be two doors to the outside both of which cannot be opened at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Abraxas</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/23/lets-talk-defense/comment-page-2/#comment-181882</link>
		<dc:creator>Abraxas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people have ignored the possibly most important factor, location. Some of you say use redwood trees as towers, that means California, which means tons of zeds from the massive population, and earthquakes. Some of you said underwater, but unless its the ocean it&#039;s never really that deep, and so zeds can find it and bust in somehow, and if it is in the ocean, then you deal with seismic activity and tsunamis. Personally I want Alaska, where the population is small, the land is huge, there are only zed-cicles, and geothermal power is an option. sunlamps and a hydroponics garden facility provide food, satellite up links for communication, limited aboveground facilities, if any, to draw attention, and any sort of facility can be built. All in a enormous underground bunker. Security is handled with camera security along with serious construction, and maybe even a fortress style complex on the surface. 
And, by the way, there is a way of preventing zeds from getting in when you check if there are any out there... KNOCK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people have ignored the possibly most important factor, location. Some of you say use redwood trees as towers, that means California, which means tons of zeds from the massive population, and earthquakes. Some of you said underwater, but unless its the ocean it&#8217;s never really that deep, and so zeds can find it and bust in somehow, and if it is in the ocean, then you deal with seismic activity and tsunamis. Personally I want Alaska, where the population is small, the land is huge, there are only zed-cicles, and geothermal power is an option. sunlamps and a hydroponics garden facility provide food, satellite up links for communication, limited aboveground facilities, if any, to draw attention, and any sort of facility can be built. All in a enormous underground bunker. Security is handled with camera security along with serious construction, and maybe even a fortress style complex on the surface.<br />
And, by the way, there is a way of preventing zeds from getting in when you check if there are any out there&#8230; KNOCK.</p>
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		<title>By: roger bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know as soon as a zombie outbreak happens the government is going to nuke everything around you so you have to line the walls with lead and hope you dont die of radiation and you better hope you have enough food to last till the radiation dies down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know as soon as a zombie outbreak happens the government is going to nuke everything around you so you have to line the walls with lead and hope you dont die of radiation and you better hope you have enough food to last till the radiation dies down</p>
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		<title>By: TheGreatBandito</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/23/lets-talk-defense/comment-page-2/#comment-130584</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGreatBandito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only major design flaw in the bunker set up is the fact that the silo entrence  is out side of the house.
get a zombie attack at midnight then your screwed because the very thing ur trying to keep out is keeping you from your ultimate defense. I would segest a hatch with a ladder going down from a room. then the tunnel could connect to the bunker with a tower or the double lock door depending on which route u would rather go.

Also, you could invest in some bunker defense weaponry like flamethrowers, a stationary gun on the tower, etc.
this list is pricy but again it&#039;s for a good cause, which is saveing the lives of you and your family, loved ones, friends, that one hobo you feel bad for because you never gave him money, the list goes on 

SURPRISE! That hobo is probly some kick ass marine who is down on his luck. He could down more infected then the rest of your family together. I would allways suggest to get the x-marine hobos to help your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only major design flaw in the bunker set up is the fact that the silo entrence  is out side of the house.<br />
get a zombie attack at midnight then your screwed because the very thing ur trying to keep out is keeping you from your ultimate defense. I would segest a hatch with a ladder going down from a room. then the tunnel could connect to the bunker with a tower or the double lock door depending on which route u would rather go.</p>
<p>Also, you could invest in some bunker defense weaponry like flamethrowers, a stationary gun on the tower, etc.<br />
this list is pricy but again it&#8217;s for a good cause, which is saveing the lives of you and your family, loved ones, friends, that one hobo you feel bad for because you never gave him money, the list goes on </p>
<p>SURPRISE! That hobo is probly some kick ass marine who is down on his luck. He could down more infected then the rest of your family together. I would allways suggest to get the x-marine hobos to help your family.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharpshooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharpshooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only problem i see with this is about air ventalation shafts..... get a zombie midget and BAM your fucked...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only problem i see with this is about air ventalation shafts&#8230;.. get a zombie midget and BAM your fucked&#8230;</p>
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