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		<title>By: Arctic Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/28/mobile-zombie-preparedness-kit/comment-page-2/#comment-375439</link>
		<dc:creator>Arctic Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Pyro, you need to have multiple plans and a good hold out location. But, with it, you need to make sure that it is abundant with natural resources. A cave in the desert would kill you. You want a place with a lasting fresh water source and natural protection from the elements. Not to mention wild life to hunt, fish to gather and wood for warmth and barricade reinforcement. Take these into consideration when you pick a place. Those of us who grew up in the outdoors (I grew up in the wilds of Alaska and can live off of the land alone all winter if I have to) have the advantage of knowing what to do. Of you don&#039;t then I would suggest learning field survival, hunting, field dressing prey, and storage techniques.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Pyro, you need to have multiple plans and a good hold out location. But, with it, you need to make sure that it is abundant with natural resources. A cave in the desert would kill you. You want a place with a lasting fresh water source and natural protection from the elements. Not to mention wild life to hunt, fish to gather and wood for warmth and barricade reinforcement. Take these into consideration when you pick a place. Those of us who grew up in the outdoors (I grew up in the wilds of Alaska and can live off of the land alone all winter if I have to) have the advantage of knowing what to do. Of you don&#8217;t then I would suggest learning field survival, hunting, field dressing prey, and storage techniques.</p>
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		<title>By: PyroSawgunnerUSMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>PyroSawgunnerUSMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please allow me to indefinitally secure an object in everyones bug out pack.  The E-tool is an infinitally useful object in which you could use in lots of applications.  And the Newer ones that are trifolds compact to a little more than an inch thick and are little bigger than the size of the Zombie Survival Guide.  I am suprised that people are actually argueing about the use of them.  Ive been in the Marines for over 8 years now, a Sgt now, any time we go out for training or (when deployed) we are going on an Opp. I always make sure my Marines have their e-tool.  I have used it everytime we have done something.  The real military tri-fold ones, can actually be used to pry a door open off of its frame, we have done this.  It makes a great alternative to carrying a big bulky 36&quot; crowbar.  Plus you can get a much better bite into the door. 

I will have to say that AngreyVikingMan has some great points.  As do many of the people posting on here. 

But one thing that should be in this kit as well is a 9 volt battery and a peice of steel wool and or an sos pad.  Place some small bits of tinder or leaves or something on the steel wool and place both positive and negative sides on the steel wool and youll have your fire real quick.  Keep it small enough to keep you fingers and toes warm.  These two items weigh practically nothing in a pack and will save you from frost bite in the even you lose, break or run out of fuel from your matches, lighter or flints. Always a good back up.  and its re usable.

GPS is junk when this happens.  Just like Quijote_228 said, it requires mainance that wont be there to use.  Besides, If you are in a real survival situation i.e. the Z/A, your going to be pushing away from civilization.  Not going towards it.  Your going to be going to your woods, sticks, plains or anywhere but crowded cities that will be thriving with Z&#039;s.  You want seclusion.  Chances are you won&#039;t be running into the undead 10-15 miles outside a city on the far side of the mtns up here and up river. I live in Pennsylvania sadly, right outside of a major city.  My brother and I are prepaired with a cabin about 26 miles away.  It has been pre outfitted and securred with provisions and extra ammo.  Its over a mountain and its up river from the major city.  So if the occasional zombie were to come to the river, its at least a half mile wide at its narrowest and has very strong currents.  No human is swimming accross that river, let alo9ne a zombie that has deteriorated muscles.  The cabin has a VERY VERY VERY rough road that goes to it.  There is no way its going to be found by a random family in the mini van.  We have a small group of people that know where it is.  

And lets just say no little honda sitting in the roads gonna stop our trucks.  lol, 6 inches of lift and about 36&quot; tires.  Full front body armor bars, rear bars, front skid plates, under chasis skid plates, fog lights, spotlights, safari racks and wenches.  Just to name a few things that will be neccisaary to reach our place.  Plus some motor work.  Do not let anyone tell you that anything stock is perfect.  especially when preparing for something like this.  Hell get you ride equipted with an extra fuel cell.  Nothing stock will be best for ever.  You will need to modify your vehicle choice.  And its better to have the power rather than need it and be zombie chow.   

The main point of that is not just aimlessly wandering.  you will die if you do not have a set location that you are going to.  even if when you get there it is gone, destroyed, over run, occupied by unfreindly forces, or what ever.  Have a plan A, Plan B, Plan C, and so on.  you have to have back up plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please allow me to indefinitally secure an object in everyones bug out pack.  The E-tool is an infinitally useful object in which you could use in lots of applications.  And the Newer ones that are trifolds compact to a little more than an inch thick and are little bigger than the size of the Zombie Survival Guide.  I am suprised that people are actually argueing about the use of them.  Ive been in the Marines for over 8 years now, a Sgt now, any time we go out for training or (when deployed) we are going on an Opp. I always make sure my Marines have their e-tool.  I have used it everytime we have done something.  The real military tri-fold ones, can actually be used to pry a door open off of its frame, we have done this.  It makes a great alternative to carrying a big bulky 36&#8243; crowbar.  Plus you can get a much better bite into the door. </p>
<p>I will have to say that AngreyVikingMan has some great points.  As do many of the people posting on here. </p>
<p>But one thing that should be in this kit as well is a 9 volt battery and a peice of steel wool and or an sos pad.  Place some small bits of tinder or leaves or something on the steel wool and place both positive and negative sides on the steel wool and youll have your fire real quick.  Keep it small enough to keep you fingers and toes warm.  These two items weigh practically nothing in a pack and will save you from frost bite in the even you lose, break or run out of fuel from your matches, lighter or flints. Always a good back up.  and its re usable.</p>
<p>GPS is junk when this happens.  Just like Quijote_228 said, it requires mainance that wont be there to use.  Besides, If you are in a real survival situation i.e. the Z/A, your going to be pushing away from civilization.  Not going towards it.  Your going to be going to your woods, sticks, plains or anywhere but crowded cities that will be thriving with Z&#8217;s.  You want seclusion.  Chances are you won&#8217;t be running into the undead 10-15 miles outside a city on the far side of the mtns up here and up river. I live in Pennsylvania sadly, right outside of a major city.  My brother and I are prepaired with a cabin about 26 miles away.  It has been pre outfitted and securred with provisions and extra ammo.  Its over a mountain and its up river from the major city.  So if the occasional zombie were to come to the river, its at least a half mile wide at its narrowest and has very strong currents.  No human is swimming accross that river, let alo9ne a zombie that has deteriorated muscles.  The cabin has a VERY VERY VERY rough road that goes to it.  There is no way its going to be found by a random family in the mini van.  We have a small group of people that know where it is.  </p>
<p>And lets just say no little honda sitting in the roads gonna stop our trucks.  lol, 6 inches of lift and about 36&#8243; tires.  Full front body armor bars, rear bars, front skid plates, under chasis skid plates, fog lights, spotlights, safari racks and wenches.  Just to name a few things that will be neccisaary to reach our place.  Plus some motor work.  Do not let anyone tell you that anything stock is perfect.  especially when preparing for something like this.  Hell get you ride equipted with an extra fuel cell.  Nothing stock will be best for ever.  You will need to modify your vehicle choice.  And its better to have the power rather than need it and be zombie chow.   </p>
<p>The main point of that is not just aimlessly wandering.  you will die if you do not have a set location that you are going to.  even if when you get there it is gone, destroyed, over run, occupied by unfreindly forces, or what ever.  Have a plan A, Plan B, Plan C, and so on.  you have to have back up plans.</p>
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		<title>By: Zombie Lightfighter</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/28/mobile-zombie-preparedness-kit/comment-page-2/#comment-342300</link>
		<dc:creator>Zombie Lightfighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reading everyone&#039;s ideal Zombie Bugout Kit, here is my take.

A military rucksack is ideal. They are made to last and are designed to carry heavy weights and have all sorts of locations for attachments. Yes carrying heavy weight slows you down, but better to have a system that can carry the weight than having to carry a couple of different bags for items you pick up along the way.

Fire starting kit. Firepiston or Flint and steel will last longer than matches and lighters..add a small, repeat small, magnifying glass as well.

First Aid kit, blood only brings in the Zombies and infection sucks. 

Poncho and Poncho liner. You have a tent and sleeping bag all in one. They are lightweight and warm. E blankets are a good back up.

550 cord. Has many uses and is invaluable in field craft.

Knife. Doesnt matter what kind, as long as its sharp.

Canteen Cup. You have a way to heat your chow, wash, and sterilize water.

Slingshot. Not a fully put together one, but the makings. Surgical tubing and strip of leather.

Etool. Yeah theyre heavy, but if you get the right one, my fave is the WW2 german version, they are valued added. Its solid and has one edge sharpened for an axe and can make a good close in weapon if needed.

Canteens / Camelbak type water carrying system.

Entertainment. You need something like a book to take your mind off your current situation. Plus you can use it as tender when your done.

Pocket saw. Folding or cable type.

Socks are good. All you need is 3 pairs. Wear one and hang two on your ruck.

Zip lock baggies. Carry food / water. Keep your stuff dry.

Small Binos. Better to see Zombies far off when scrounging.

100 mph Tape. Almost as many uses as 550 cord.

Flashlight.

Food. A couple of days worth of dry food. Canned food is too heavy and takes up more space. De-hydrated food is good too.

The key is not to pack it full. You need room to add additional items and food stuffs as you make your way to a safe-ish place and enhance your ability to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading everyone&#8217;s ideal Zombie Bugout Kit, here is my take.</p>
<p>A military rucksack is ideal. They are made to last and are designed to carry heavy weights and have all sorts of locations for attachments. Yes carrying heavy weight slows you down, but better to have a system that can carry the weight than having to carry a couple of different bags for items you pick up along the way.</p>
<p>Fire starting kit. Firepiston or Flint and steel will last longer than matches and lighters..add a small, repeat small, magnifying glass as well.</p>
<p>First Aid kit, blood only brings in the Zombies and infection sucks. </p>
<p>Poncho and Poncho liner. You have a tent and sleeping bag all in one. They are lightweight and warm. E blankets are a good back up.</p>
<p>550 cord. Has many uses and is invaluable in field craft.</p>
<p>Knife. Doesnt matter what kind, as long as its sharp.</p>
<p>Canteen Cup. You have a way to heat your chow, wash, and sterilize water.</p>
<p>Slingshot. Not a fully put together one, but the makings. Surgical tubing and strip of leather.</p>
<p>Etool. Yeah theyre heavy, but if you get the right one, my fave is the WW2 german version, they are valued added. Its solid and has one edge sharpened for an axe and can make a good close in weapon if needed.</p>
<p>Canteens / Camelbak type water carrying system.</p>
<p>Entertainment. You need something like a book to take your mind off your current situation. Plus you can use it as tender when your done.</p>
<p>Pocket saw. Folding or cable type.</p>
<p>Socks are good. All you need is 3 pairs. Wear one and hang two on your ruck.</p>
<p>Zip lock baggies. Carry food / water. Keep your stuff dry.</p>
<p>Small Binos. Better to see Zombies far off when scrounging.</p>
<p>100 mph Tape. Almost as many uses as 550 cord.</p>
<p>Flashlight.</p>
<p>Food. A couple of days worth of dry food. Canned food is too heavy and takes up more space. De-hydrated food is good too.</p>
<p>The key is not to pack it full. You need room to add additional items and food stuffs as you make your way to a safe-ish place and enhance your ability to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Quijote_228</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/28/mobile-zombie-preparedness-kit/comment-page-2/#comment-338357</link>
		<dc:creator>Quijote_228</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Water:  During the post-Katrina Zombie outbreak, I had my very own 80 Gallon clean drinking water supply.  You may also have the same reserve.

Most folks forget all about your water heater tank.  It contains a large amount drinkable water.  The key to keeping the water usable during an apocalyptic event, is:  
As soon as you loose water pressure, shut off the valve to the water supply side on the hot water heater.  This will prevent contaminated water from entering the tank.   Use the tanks drain valve to obtain clean water.  DO NOT use the faucets for drinking purposes (unless you boil to a roar).  When law and order, and city water pressure is restored, don&#039;t forget to re-open the water supply valve to your heater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water:  During the post-Katrina Zombie outbreak, I had my very own 80 Gallon clean drinking water supply.  You may also have the same reserve.</p>
<p>Most folks forget all about your water heater tank.  It contains a large amount drinkable water.  The key to keeping the water usable during an apocalyptic event, is:<br />
As soon as you loose water pressure, shut off the valve to the water supply side on the hot water heater.  This will prevent contaminated water from entering the tank.   Use the tanks drain valve to obtain clean water.  DO NOT use the faucets for drinking purposes (unless you boil to a roar).  When law and order, and city water pressure is restored, don&#8217;t forget to re-open the water supply valve to your heater.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatRudeGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatRudeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just a thought, I know this thread hasn&#039;t been active in a year and a half now, but maybe you should go look up how to use backpacking equipment and how to choose the stuff you will need. Most of the stuff named and listed here is camping equipment or it can be found at rei.com. here is the part of that site that gives great learning information ass to what you should choose depending upon style. Also, i found that doing a little bit of research into what suits you best never hurts. My personal list of camping supplies that I want to buy is up to $900 now and i think it&#039;s a pretty decent list for trying to survive anywhere. it&#039;s just come down to how to scrounge up $900 after studying abroad and possibly having no job this summer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just a thought, I know this thread hasn&#8217;t been active in a year and a half now, but maybe you should go look up how to use backpacking equipment and how to choose the stuff you will need. Most of the stuff named and listed here is camping equipment or it can be found at rei.com. here is the part of that site that gives great learning information ass to what you should choose depending upon style. Also, i found that doing a little bit of research into what suits you best never hurts. My personal list of camping supplies that I want to buy is up to $900 now and i think it&#8217;s a pretty decent list for trying to survive anywhere. it&#8217;s just come down to how to scrounge up $900 after studying abroad and possibly having no job this summer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zombies Are Coming &#187; Holiday Zombie Survival Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2007/08/28/mobile-zombie-preparedness-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-275817</link>
		<dc:creator>Zombies Are Coming &#187; Holiday Zombie Survival Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even visiting friends or family just a few hours away, make sure you have access to supplies (i.e. MZPK).  It is one thing to find yourself in an unfamiliar environment, but  it is a totally different [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] even visiting friends or family just a few hours away, make sure you have access to supplies (i.e. MZPK).  It is one thing to find yourself in an unfamiliar environment, but  it is a totally different [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GonzoTheBurner</title>
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		<dc:creator>GonzoTheBurner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angryviking.... I think you would be able to scavenge clothes. To each his own, but  I just dont see them as essentials. If the washing is a concern, do as the rangers do, use alcohol wipes. They are light, last forever, can be used as tender (when left dry) and quick and easy (think whore&#039;s bath). Im with you on the &quot;commando&quot; though. I havent worn under wear since my first 5 mile road march in georgia. and I never will again. Masseuse be damned! People just dont understand how what essentials are until they have to carry them for 8 miles on their backs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angryviking&#8230;. I think you would be able to scavenge clothes. To each his own, but  I just dont see them as essentials. If the washing is a concern, do as the rangers do, use alcohol wipes. They are light, last forever, can be used as tender (when left dry) and quick and easy (think whore&#8217;s bath). Im with you on the &#8220;commando&#8221; though. I havent worn under wear since my first 5 mile road march in georgia. and I never will again. Masseuse be damned! People just dont understand how what essentials are until they have to carry them for 8 miles on their backs.</p>
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		<title>By: Angryvikingman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angryvikingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m serious, I don&#039;t wear underwear unless I&#039;m going to get a massage, or going somewhere formal. My wife makes me. I went commando to a massage once and well, I&#039;m pretty sure the woman got a view of all the goods. She didnt say anything, but kept making me do these weird stretches, and it felt like everything was flapping in the breeze. I chafe LESS when I&#039;m not wearing any underwear. Even and especially when completely soaked. 

Ever tried using rubber bands to hold up knee highs? Put them near the top and roll them down. Also, they do make sock garters, so that would solve the problem also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m serious, I don&#8217;t wear underwear unless I&#8217;m going to get a massage, or going somewhere formal. My wife makes me. I went commando to a massage once and well, I&#8217;m pretty sure the woman got a view of all the goods. She didnt say anything, but kept making me do these weird stretches, and it felt like everything was flapping in the breeze. I chafe LESS when I&#8217;m not wearing any underwear. Even and especially when completely soaked. </p>
<p>Ever tried using rubber bands to hold up knee highs? Put them near the top and roll them down. Also, they do make sock garters, so that would solve the problem also.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatScoutKid</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatScoutKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>always fill your bathtub and sinks with water!!!!! not just for zombies but any time water may be shut off natural disasters or civil unrest. dk just wanted to put that out there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>always fill your bathtub and sinks with water!!!!! not just for zombies but any time water may be shut off natural disasters or civil unrest. dk just wanted to put that out there</p>
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		<title>By: Syn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angryvikingman, Have you tried running in knee highs? They stay up for walking (If youre lucky enough to have gotten an exceptional pair) but running?! Not a chance. Believe me, thats experience talking. Rolling them over boots should work but Id rather have something that will surely stay up. &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;Not a fan of F^@*!^@ around :/ Id say better safe than sorry. Plus you could always cut youre panty hose down and make them into socks later, though they wouldnt have the nifty plastic strips then, huh?

Im gonna have to disagree with you being male and not needing your special pair of underoos. Taint chafe aint pretty and it will eventually happen. Having the constant fiery kick to the balls feeling might hinder your fleeing capabilities (not suggesting your first option would be fleeing, but I digress). Especially if you get wet! You need something between your legs and the moist swagger of your slogging cloths.

Adam, Id like to say thanks and Im adding a padlock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angryvikingman, Have you tried running in knee highs? They stay up for walking (If youre lucky enough to have gotten an exceptional pair) but running?! Not a chance. Believe me, thats experience talking. Rolling them over boots should work but Id rather have something that will surely stay up. &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;Not a fan of F^@*!^@ around :/ Id say better safe than sorry. Plus you could always cut youre panty hose down and make them into socks later, though they wouldnt have the nifty plastic strips then, huh?</p>
<p>Im gonna have to disagree with you being male and not needing your special pair of underoos. Taint chafe aint pretty and it will eventually happen. Having the constant fiery kick to the balls feeling might hinder your fleeing capabilities (not suggesting your first option would be fleeing, but I digress). Especially if you get wet! You need something between your legs and the moist swagger of your slogging cloths.</p>
<p>Adam, Id like to say thanks and Im adding a padlock!</p>
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