Comments on: Top 5 Pros & Cons Regarding an Underwater Site as a Zombie Defense

By: Josh

Josh — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:28:06 +0000

Well if your underwater,the zombies may sense you and make there way underwater,and could possible infect the fish,now if a big 2 ton zombie shark came,your underwater facility will be pretty much f***ed,if an outbreak occurs i would want the horde as far away as possible from the animals,you can not fend of a zombie animal of any kind.

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:44:35 +0000

I think any kind of long-term water/coast situated base is a bad idea.

if a zombie infestation occurs you can say good by to forecasts and hello hurricanes from nowhere with no notice.

zombies wouldn’t be the only problem in a zombie infestation. you have to anticipate a complete breakdown in infrastructure and society. this mentality also helps in preparing for a post-apocalyptic future. =D

By: Fullcircle

Fullcircle — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:21:06 +0000

Romero’s movies aren’t gospel; the laws of physics are, however. Dead bodies float- hell, living bodies float. Have you ever tried to walk across the bottom of a swimming pool?
Simply put, we aren’t going to end up with a scene like in Pirates of the Caribbean with a bunch of dead guys strolling across the sea floor to get at us.

And besides, who says the living area is on the sea floor? If you set the place up in a suitably deep area, the bottom of the “bunker” could be several hundred feet above the sea floor.

My only suggestion would be to have multiple “escape hatches” situated towards the bottom of the place, along with SCUBA suita, or at lead an air tank/mask.

I don’t really know anything about the mechanics of SCUBA, thought, so correct me if that isn’t possible.

By: ico

ico — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:14:05 +0000

It sounds like a pretty good idea but if the facility sits on the bottom of the ocean (reletively close to land) and if you’ve seen Romero’s Land of the Dead, the zombies could walk underwater, accumulate outside the walls/windows and they could potentially break down a whole wall, most likely killing everyone. Another thing if we’re still following Romero’s movies, it doesnt matter how you die, you will still become a zombie, if you’re with a large group of people, someone is bound to die of natural causes at some point so basically, you’re dead either way.

By: Luciano

Luciano — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:08:23 +0000

Well i hope the zombies cant swim like in ”house of the dead” xD

By: Kasper

Kasper — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:40:26 +0000

I dislike the underwater option on account of the problems with air, supplies, and information flow. However, there will be no zombie sharks. Sharks are immune to all diseases, they don’t even get cancer like all other complex life does. Whales are mammals, so perhaps they’d be virus compatible. But would zeds attack a whale, and
if yes, how would a zed get his teeth around any part of the whale? And would the whale
understand humans as enemies to be eaten? Many whales, blue whale included, don’t have teeth, so no bitey, even though they could smash the base. An swimming human-zed couldn’t get the force behind a blow to damage a well-made underwater structure. Ever tried punching, running, anything in water?

By: jacob

jacob — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:22:12 +0000

underwater is just not a very good option if they get in some how the watewr will probably be filled with them and will be nearly impossible to get away i think the smart way is to keep on the road either on a multi terrain vehicle or in a convoy they are attracted to where the food is so u would just be dooming yourself

By: NegativeN

NegativeN — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:14:50 +0000

With regards to underwater facilities, if the base was deep enough, wouldn’t zombies be crushed by the sheer force of the water pressure at extreme depths?

By: Greyclaw

Greyclaw — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:59:29 +0000

There’s a few good points as to why an underwater base would work and work quite well. The structure itself would be designed like an airtight tank with double armor and water greatly reduces the ability to move with any force (try punching a wall underwater sometime, it doesn’t work so well). Conceivably, enough zombies could damage necessary external equipment to force an evacuation, but that would require them to
A) know live humans are there (difficult with no scent of the living, no visual stimuli, and sound transmitted well through water, but imperceptible outside of water)
B) actively attack the structure as opposed to simply congregating around it (not unheard of, but decidely less common).
In addition, while the average zombie can last 3-5 years through regular wear and tear, the amount of decomposing organisms in air is remarkably low, but extraordinarily high under water. Simply entering the water and traversing the seafloor (or bottom of freshwater body) would expose the zombie to huge numbers of scavenging species which would work right from bacteria to large scavengers. This brings up another issue though; what species would be infected? While there is debate on this point, it generally seems that mammals are largely the only group that becomes infected, though birds too on occassion. Would fish be infected? Or bacteria? Possibly not. If it’s a virus, it would have to be universally infective agent AND have the same effect on every species it came in contact with. The odds of this are incredbily low. Some species may become infected, but it’s more likely due to high exposure rates, creatures like carrion birds or scavenger dogs/cats. These would be the most likely to become infected. If it’s a parasite situation, they can usually only be transmitted through a handful of species, again removing the threat of total infection. Oceanic life would therefore be the most likely to survive a large scale outbreak.
Anyways, I digress. The decomp rates underwater would mean at most weeks or months before the undead would be too degraded to be mobile and a threat. As for floating, that depends on a few factors as well. The freshly dead and decaying would float due to subcutaneous fat and gas from decomposing intestines, however once the gas is vented (more likely in a mobile zombie) and the fat has become dissolved (rapidly during decomposition) the body would promptly sink. Most bodies float for a few days then sink BUT may refloat depending on the decomposition process (ie additional gas buildup). Given the mobile nature of the undead, refloats should be a minimum risk.

To sum up, zombies just don’t play nice with water, making it relatively safe, with a boat likely being the safest means of travelling and surviving… that is until the zombie giant squids show up… then you’re boned.

By: Pete

Pete — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:09:08 +0000

A zeppelin could work? If combo’d with the oil rig idea it would reduce both the accessibility options and provide a way off using minimal fuel. You could, providing the technology is available, use solar or wind energy to run the electricity generators for the oil rig. the only problem is the availability of the resources for a zeppelin, but given enough time it could be developed, maybe have the helicopters gather necessary resources?