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	<title>Comments on: Top 5 Pros &amp; Cons Regarding an Underwater Site as a Zombie Defense</title>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hope for the best, prepare for the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hope for the best, prepare for the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummmmmmm  the best shelter would be an ABOVE ground shelter with a super strong garage door, ass loads of o2 tanks, one story, one room, lp (propane) tanks, a generator, an exhaust system so the fumes dont stay in your stronghold, a ford f-550 for supply runs, reinforced walls, gasoline for the truck, lots of automatic weapons,  a lot of ammo, a ham radio, food, water, water purifiers, and flushing toilets, right...?  just saying....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummmmmmm  the best shelter would be an ABOVE ground shelter with a super strong garage door, ass loads of o2 tanks, one story, one room, lp (propane) tanks, a generator, an exhaust system so the fumes dont stay in your stronghold, a ford f-550 for supply runs, reinforced walls, gasoline for the truck, lots of automatic weapons,  a lot of ammo, a ham radio, food, water, water purifiers, and flushing toilets, right&#8230;?  just saying&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatScoutKid</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatScoutKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love how people assume that all zombies will be dumb and slow. if thats not the case, then there will be a few more zombies around. dont imply anything! be ready for anything! if you have a plan make another one. then another. then another! you must not think that they will all be the same or lacking human motor skills or not being able to have basic human thinking skills. its the only way to be ready for anything that life can throw at you. PREPARE. for anything and everything. that being said, dont live in fear. live life to the fullest. or youll go insane and have bad paranoia and it just leads to bad things. good luck people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love how people assume that all zombies will be dumb and slow. if thats not the case, then there will be a few more zombies around. dont imply anything! be ready for anything! if you have a plan make another one. then another. then another! you must not think that they will all be the same or lacking human motor skills or not being able to have basic human thinking skills. its the only way to be ready for anything that life can throw at you. PREPARE. for anything and everything. that being said, dont live in fear. live life to the fullest. or youll go insane and have bad paranoia and it just leads to bad things. good luck people!</p>
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		<title>By: KillerB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KillerB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stay on land and shoot them.........period.  why hide from a slow moving pack of violent retards?  drive around and shot them.  there are way more bullets than people so you do the math.  if you hole up then you will just die rom fear induced starvation.......meaning that you will die......period.  kill them and then they will be around no more.  hiding only makes the infestation of the undead take longer to live through.  everyone with a gun and ammo has to kill as many of the undead as possible..........that is our duty as humans.  hide if you will.........you will just starve to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stay on land and shoot them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;period.  why hide from a slow moving pack of violent retards?  drive around and shot them.  there are way more bullets than people so you do the math.  if you hole up then you will just die rom fear induced starvation&#8230;&#8230;.meaning that you will die&#8230;&#8230;period.  kill them and then they will be around no more.  hiding only makes the infestation of the undead take longer to live through.  everyone with a gun and ammo has to kill as many of the undead as possible&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.that is our duty as humans.  hide if you will&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;you will just starve to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On further consideration of this topic, i have been led to believe that zombies, contrary to popular belief, cannot travel underwater.

One reason is that saltwater would be impossible for them. Prolonged exposure would drain what little moisture they had in them, and they would dry up and be unable to do anything. It would, effectively, kill the brain.

Secondly, in any water, they would float, not sink.
Despite the lack of air in the lungs, after death decomposition sets in and all sorts of gases are released. It is true that after a while, the body sinks, but obviously zombies decay slower than a normal cadaver.

Thirdly, digestion also produces gases. And since a human stomach really isn&#039;t all that big, zombie must be able to digest. Otherwise they&#039;d be unable to eat, and obviously they can do that.

Fourthly, the pressure, particularly in deep oceans, would crush the zombies. Literally, crush.

Fifthly, as you might now, a corpse left in water for too long becomes extremely bloated. A zombie like that would barely be able to walk, and would only be dangerous if you came right up to it.

Sixthly, any moving body of water will have a current. In rivers, this is accompanied by assorted rocks and pebbles, which would shred a zombie. In oceans, this current would be strong enough to drag the zombie without giving it a fighting chance.

As such, a defense complex underwater in an ocean would be the perfect defence place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On further consideration of this topic, i have been led to believe that zombies, contrary to popular belief, cannot travel underwater.</p>
<p>One reason is that saltwater would be impossible for them. Prolonged exposure would drain what little moisture they had in them, and they would dry up and be unable to do anything. It would, effectively, kill the brain.</p>
<p>Secondly, in any water, they would float, not sink.<br />
Despite the lack of air in the lungs, after death decomposition sets in and all sorts of gases are released. It is true that after a while, the body sinks, but obviously zombies decay slower than a normal cadaver.</p>
<p>Thirdly, digestion also produces gases. And since a human stomach really isn&#8217;t all that big, zombie must be able to digest. Otherwise they&#8217;d be unable to eat, and obviously they can do that.</p>
<p>Fourthly, the pressure, particularly in deep oceans, would crush the zombies. Literally, crush.</p>
<p>Fifthly, as you might now, a corpse left in water for too long becomes extremely bloated. A zombie like that would barely be able to walk, and would only be dangerous if you came right up to it.</p>
<p>Sixthly, any moving body of water will have a current. In rivers, this is accompanied by assorted rocks and pebbles, which would shred a zombie. In oceans, this current would be strong enough to drag the zombie without giving it a fighting chance.</p>
<p>As such, a defense complex underwater in an ocean would be the perfect defence place.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting. I know this is really old, but i feel like posting this comment anyway.

I never considered an underwater base, because in my opinion the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. As well as those mentioned in the article, you would also find it much more difficult to grow most plants, and would probably end up malnourished. Also, If it is underwater, it would be difficult to escape if the complex became over-run.

However, reading this led me to consider the possibility of using large ships, like aircraft carriers. You could keep animals, and create a patch of soil on the deck to grow plants. Obviously, you&#039;d be able to use the animal waste as manure, making the plant patch sustainable. Also, with the proper facilities, you have all the water you can drink. It wouldn&#039;t be difficult to purify the sea water.

Provided you avoid major storms, it would be impossible for zombies to get on board. The decks are high above surface level, and any ladders on the side could be removed. If you were lucky enough to find an aircraft carrier which still had aircraft on, and happened to have someone who can fly, you could use the planes/helicopters to scout out islands and search coastal cities for besieged survivors which you might be able to rescue.
Fuel would be an issue, but it wouldn&#039;t be hard to make your own mast and sails, provided you know what you&#039;re doing. I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a guide on the internet somewhere. This way you can conserve fuel for use solely on refridgeration (useful, eh?) and medical services. The large amount of fuel on board would probably last for several years if used sparingly, and it wouldn&#039;t be too hard to scavenge fuel from abandoned vessels in a harbour.

An additional note i would like to add- if you were to head towards either the north or south, it would eventually be cold enough that you wouldn&#039;t need refridgeration to store perishable food, which could prove useful. Also, i doubt there would be many zombies at the south pole. However, the disadvantages offered by the cold temperature may outwiegh the advantadges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting. I know this is really old, but i feel like posting this comment anyway.</p>
<p>I never considered an underwater base, because in my opinion the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. As well as those mentioned in the article, you would also find it much more difficult to grow most plants, and would probably end up malnourished. Also, If it is underwater, it would be difficult to escape if the complex became over-run.</p>
<p>However, reading this led me to consider the possibility of using large ships, like aircraft carriers. You could keep animals, and create a patch of soil on the deck to grow plants. Obviously, you&#8217;d be able to use the animal waste as manure, making the plant patch sustainable. Also, with the proper facilities, you have all the water you can drink. It wouldn&#8217;t be difficult to purify the sea water.</p>
<p>Provided you avoid major storms, it would be impossible for zombies to get on board. The decks are high above surface level, and any ladders on the side could be removed. If you were lucky enough to find an aircraft carrier which still had aircraft on, and happened to have someone who can fly, you could use the planes/helicopters to scout out islands and search coastal cities for besieged survivors which you might be able to rescue.<br />
Fuel would be an issue, but it wouldn&#8217;t be hard to make your own mast and sails, provided you know what you&#8217;re doing. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a guide on the internet somewhere. This way you can conserve fuel for use solely on refridgeration (useful, eh?) and medical services. The large amount of fuel on board would probably last for several years if used sparingly, and it wouldn&#8217;t be too hard to scavenge fuel from abandoned vessels in a harbour.</p>
<p>An additional note i would like to add- if you were to head towards either the north or south, it would eventually be cold enough that you wouldn&#8217;t need refridgeration to store perishable food, which could prove useful. Also, i doubt there would be many zombies at the south pole. However, the disadvantages offered by the cold temperature may outwiegh the advantadges.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the ultimite zobie defence would be a base on the moon.  keep living till all the zombies die, than return to earth. For food, you could grow potatos and stuff in a biodome. Problem soved</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the ultimite zobie defence would be a base on the moon.  keep living till all the zombies die, than return to earth. For food, you could grow potatos and stuff in a biodome. Problem soved</p>
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		<title>By: guerrilla_warfare</title>
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		<dc:creator>guerrilla_warfare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the biggest problem would be the fact that if even one person was infected, it could screw the entire colony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the biggest problem would be the fact that if even one person was infected, it could screw the entire colony.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zombie FLOCK of birds, nearly all species of birds fly in large groups</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zombie FLOCK of birds, nearly all species of birds fly in large groups</p>
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		<title>By: Sharpshooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharpshooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well since this concept is pretty far fetched im gunna through another idea out.... what about a blimp or zeppelin? i could work i mean so fuckin what a zombie bird....... easily taken care of mate! unlike underwater...... say a zombie found a giant fuckin squid?! what then? underground would be easier but you could be easily screwing yourselves over... what if like an infected mouse got in or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well since this concept is pretty far fetched im gunna through another idea out&#8230;. what about a blimp or zeppelin? i could work i mean so fuckin what a zombie bird&#8230;&#8230;. easily taken care of mate! unlike underwater&#8230;&#8230; say a zombie found a giant fuckin squid?! what then? underground would be easier but you could be easily screwing yourselves over&#8230; what if like an infected mouse got in or something?</p>
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