5 Reasons Super Shopping Centers Make for Good Zombie Defense Locations

Author: Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant
Submitted: 05 Dec 2007
Filed under: Buildings &Mobile Defense &Safety &Safety Council

62 Responses to “5 Reasons Super Shopping Centers Make for Good Zombie Defense Locations”

1. ZAC Admin on 05 Dec 2007 at 9:45 pm #

   Assuming that my first plan is compromised, I honestly love the idea of relocating to a super store. I was at Wal-Mart today and wondered what would happen if the apocalypse came while I was inside.

   Many of these centers have heavy rolling doors on the exterior. If not, they have strong doors in the front and rear of the building. There are plenty of items inside which can help strengthen such entries and exits. You also have roof access, which can serve as a lookout. Zombies are too clumsy to make their way on top of such a large building.

   Once inside, you are afforded much of what you would have at home, assuming the place has not been looted. As you mentioned, there is food, equipment, weapons, clothing, blankets, etc. The main issue would be keeping the undead out and keeping those inside under control.

2. KayBeeDee on 06 Dec 2007 at 1:26 am #

   I used to work at a KMart, I spent pretty much all my time making plans for what I would do if zombies attacked. What I thought the biggest advantage was was the huge supply of crap you could use to make more useful items in the event of a zombie apocalypse. I planned out all kinds of sweet weapons (hairspray powered cannons full of broken glass anyone?) and other useful shit like the generator I was going to build out of wire, magnets and a bike. Yeah, that job was kinda boring…

3. shinola001 on 06 Dec 2007 at 10:54 am #

   I live about 15 minutes away from Cabela’s massive superstore in Texas. I believe this affords several key opportunities. They have most everything needed to survive including guns, ammo, and Texans.

   A lasting supply of water and food (other than freeze-dried) needs to be obtained. There’s plenty of pickup trucks in Texas so expeditions to get important items would need to occur.

   I will continue suggest gloves, goggles and mouthpieces be included on everyone’s list of important items for zombie survival. The blood is tainted. If it comes down to close in fighting you’re bound to get some spatter – either by edged blades, bullet impact, or pointy sticks. Any little cut on your hand, your open mouth or eye could be the end for you.

   Also, a big mistake that seems to be repeated is not examining your fellow survivors on a regular basis to determine that infection hasn’t taken place. I believe this needs to be added to the list of key actions within any group of people and a defensive position. How many times have we seen someone hiding their bite(s) only to start picking off survivors from inside the safety zone?

4. splint.chesthair on 06 Dec 2007 at 5:37 pm #

   First, secure access in the superstore. Then take all the tents and camping gear up to the roof and have people set up base camp up there. Much easier to sleep on the roof than on ground-level, worry-wise. Then start hauling food, weapons, communication gear and other supplies up to the roof. You could probably make a nice base camp up there. This serves as the Green Zone, very little chance of surprise zombies. Make sure to get ropes and ladders in case the zombies set the store on fire, you’ll need to get off the roof from the outside.

   Periodic patrols through the store to keep check on the Yellow Zone (main floor of store) and fortify exits/entrances. If yellow zone is compromised, retreat to roof and assess the situation. Is it just a few zombies, can it be re-taken or is Yellow Zone now part of Red Zone (all areas outside of store).

   Meanwhile, search parking lot for most capable vehicles and plan mission to get vehicles into Yellow Zone for fortification and prepare in case escape becomes necessary.

   Lastly, daily strip-searches (depending on virus infect rate could be several times a day) for all people who venture into Yellow or Red Zone on missions. Green Zoners could be searched less often.

5. DAVe on 06 Dec 2007 at 6:42 pm #

   Funny thing with Zombies is that they alway go back to place they are familiar with. I would definitely hit Walmart but it is way to big to secure. Especially with the eventual zombie hordes coming to pick up some Brains.

6. Zombiephile on 06 Dec 2007 at 7:45 pm #

   Take refuge, not refuse….we won’t take garbage into the shopping center…

   ;-)

7. Nic (Toebo23) on 07 Dec 2007 at 12:39 am #

   I think it would be a good idea and your right guys its way too big to defend. I would hold up there but only for a few days. If one makes for a local super center as a sigh of outbreak it would make for a great staging point. They have everything your going to need for a long trip (perhaps to an army base if you have them in the area. we have 2.)

   1. Food
   2. All the gear you would need.
   3. Guns and a shit load of ammo
   4. Bows (for when you gotta make the kill quiet)
   5. A parking lot full of cars to choose from. (I suggest you do this first)
   6. A tire and oil change place with steel doors.
   7.TV’s Radios
   8. Back up generators

   Pick out a nice SUV or a few depending on the number of survivors with you. Use anything kind of raw materiel to weld rams bars however you would choose to trick out the SUV. Fill the back with supplies perhaps cut out a hole in the roof for a gunner. That’s a good idea for the next post. Prepping a car. But ya anyway, you have a car full of supplies guns, ammo, food. If there are more then a few dozen in the area by then just go to the roof and pick off as many as you need. You will have enough ammo. Open the garage and off you go.

8. Wildfire on 07 Dec 2007 at 12:56 am #

   I agree that Wal-Mart/K-Mart/your mart of choice would be a decent place to fortify in case of an outbreak of zed heads. But there’s more than a few setbacks in using a shopping center in addition to those mentioned above…

   1.) Most shopping centers have big glass doors and many of them are automatic. Unless you’ve made nice with the staff chances are you won’t be able to shut off the automatic doors and once the zeds see someone alive inside (it only takes one) they’ll be on your group in droves.

   2.) Perishable food items abounds in shopping centers, and in the event of a long term siege the power keeping those perishables fresh is sure to go out at some point. Now canned goods are enough to survive on, but festering meat and the like can easily make an otherwise safe heaven into something wholly unlivable. Not only is the stench ungodly, but decaying meat products carry diseases, and hunger makes fools of everyone. Eventually someone in your group is going to try to eat “the bad meat” and make themselves sick with food poisoning. A dead body brings out a whole other laundry list of sickness that I need not get into here.

   3.) The sheer area of most shopping centers makes them very difficult to fortify in the event of an outbreak. There’s a decent chance that zeds could make their way in despite all of your best laid plans. If your fortification is somewhere in the middle of the store (or at the opposite end) then you wouldn’t be aware of it until it was way too late. Even roof camps aren’t exactly safe, the issue of getting down amidst a sea of zeds is one thing, but the thought of them being on both sides of your camp is another. Remember, only one in three zeds can climb a ladder, but anything can make it’s way up stairs. Most of these shopping centers have stairwells to the roofs, and all it takes is for a zed to find one. Zombie hordes beneath you, with zombie hordes staring you down, means you’re screwed no matter how well you planned.

   I myself would loot a shopping center and then look for a more easily defensible dwelling where I could train and prepare for the coming attack. Remember everyone, zombies are coming…

9. splint.chesthair on 07 Dec 2007 at 2:40 pm #

   Well, if I had supplies and weapons at home, which I do, I wouldn’t necessarily head to a super store to hole up. But if I woke up one morning and realized on my way to work that zombies were attacking, I think a good place to assess the situation would be from a super store. At the very least, stop there and grab whatever canned goods/dried food items/vitamins you could find. What sort of zombies are we dealing with? How fast does the infection take hold? Can I get home and get the family to a safer shelter? If you can get supplies and make it home, go for it, of course your loved ones might be biters now.

   I say, first thought in the event of zombie attack should be Super Store. That way you can get supplies and assess the situation. Unless you have a pre-stocked zombie defense shelter in your basement for the family which might be a good idea. What would you need for a family of four, 3 months of food/water? What’s the liklihood of zombies getting into and hanging around in your house if they don’t find people there?

10. Twilight on 10 Dec 2007 at 12:20 am #

    Malls with open stores have those steel cages that you lock, if your in an open mall when a zombie infestation happens, you and some survivors could easily make a green zone of one the stores, fortifying the entire mall against zombies if you can which can be the yellow zone, if the survivor group is large enough, you can easily station 2 or 3 people at each entrance and exit, have a small group stockpile items into the green zone (Weapons, Food supplies, other needed supplies) Providing that said Mall has a weapons shop and food store. (Mine is without a weapons shop, us foolish Canadians…) While the steel cage is not the safest barricade since they could push through with enough numbers, the wholes are wide enough that you could get good shots in any Zed that attempts to break in. I wouldn’t permanently stay, I’d attempt to have gotten a few vehicles into the Yellow Zone (The Mall), stock piling them until most survivors can escape with enough supplies and weapons to make it out of the city and to the ocean (Water to our backs, best place to make a stand.)

11. splint.chesthair on 12 Dec 2007 at 10:13 am #

    Yes, first thought would be to get to a super store as many other people are going to eventually have this thought as well. At the very least you can be one of the first to loot the place. If infection happens rapidly, you will be at one of the better places to stage a stand against the zeds. If infections is slower, get your supplies and go get your family and plan to either fortify your home or get to some other shelter.

    I wonder, would any of you attempt to get to military green zones that you hear about on the radio? In the movies, these sites are always overrun. I’m guessing because they’re noisy and attract attention.

12. wildfire on 13 Dec 2007 at 1:07 am #

    Military zones aren’t recommended. The problem with most military organizations is that they always believe they’re best equipped to handle the situation. Fact of the matter is that most military equipment these days focuses on mass destruction as opposed to accurate single fire. Most likely militants would try to face off with zeds with something like m-16s, tanks and the like. WWZ proved modern military tech to be almost completely useless against zeds. As far as i’m concerned, solitude is the best option in the face of impending zombie attack.

13. Sboomarang on 14 Dec 2007 at 1:29 am #

    people for the love of your own lives, do NOT stake out a super center, reasons are as followed

    1) unless your camped out waiting for the attack, your not going to be the first there to loot it, when the call is made that Z day is upon us, everyone and their mother will head straight to a wallmart type place, which means chaos. not only will you be looking out for the undead, but youll be looking out for those Frantic people snatching up everything for there own well being, it will be like trying to set up camp in the middle of a mosh pit.

    2) if when the looting stops you are able to secure the area you have people to worry about as well, you have fathers mothers brothers sisters, that think they know whats best for theyre family and will argue with you to the point of fighting that “it will be ok to go out at night” or whatever theyre planing on doing, youll be fighting the undead…. and people not using logic, people to emotional to listen to you who has been waiting for the day. all it takes is one…

    3) as far as food goes, get some quality food, not bargin bin mac and cheese. why wouldnt you go to the nicest food store in town if your not paying for it? and speaking of quality yah walmart and kmart have everything, but you dont need EVERYTHING you only need certain things, and why would you settle for a walmart axe when you could get one from a camping store or sporting good store. those are the store worth making your new zombie fortified castle of survival, they have all the food youll need, (rations) not as tasty as cookies and chips, but its what you’ll body will need.

    4)and remember these stores are designed to get floods of people in. not only will you be barricading yourself from the undead but housing many people again, all with different agendas. why go bigger when you can go smaller? what happens when John doe is running from a group of zombies straight toward your big ass front door. what happens then, unbarricade your finaly crafted castle of savings? is it worth the risk? or what if you dont see john doe and he comes mid day and starts tearing at the door breaking down your barricade with his unrotting brain, putting everyone at risk.

    supercenters are good for getting alot of stuff for really cheap. but if it were a life and death situation (and incase you forgot…it is) get the best possible quality rifle you can. not something with a 90day price gaurantee.

    p.s have you ever seen a walmart employee? how will you tell the difference between the underpaid and the undead?

14. splint.chesthair on 14 Dec 2007 at 10:09 am #

    Maybe, I certainly agree on one point. I don’t want to have to secure a Wal-Mart Supercenter in the least and I probably won’t have to. I have weapons, ammo, camping gear, a rain barrel, and loads of canned and dried goods (mostly beans but hey, it’s food). Plus, there’s a Army surplus store near my house so I’ll probably head there first and take a quick look see for supplies I think may be useful.

    However, most people aren’t prepared for half a foot of snow let alone Z-day. Camping and sporting goods stores are good but they aren’t as ubiquitous as Wal-Marts and other big department stores. I only suggested going to a big department store if you think you’re one of the first to realize the situation and you are sorely lacking in supplies. Then only go there, get supplies and get back home. If the infection booms while you’re there and you can’t make it home on your own through a sea of undead, then it’s not that bad of a place to be, as opposed to being stuck in an office building or clothing store or mall.

    I would never suggest leaving a well prepared home or cabin to go make a stand at some supercenter.

15. Indigo on 19 Dec 2007 at 12:45 pm #

    Wal-Marts have those rolldown steel shutter things which are not easily pushed down.

    If it’s early in the Z-day horrrors where the rush hasn’t started in earnest, the main problem is convincing the people already in there what’s going on and why they have to either help secure
    the place or get what they’re getting and get out so we can shut down behind
    them.

    Ideally, getting one infected locked in the manager’s office to videotape dying, getting back up, and then getting shot in the head would be enough to play on all those big screen TVs to anyone coming in to prove wht one knows what one is talking about.

    Wal-Marts down here in GA have guns and ammo and generators, so power wouldn’t be a problem right away. I live in Marietta, where there’s also a Hummer dealership and a Home Depot within 10 minutes of same Wal-Mart. So cleverly planned supply raids would keep us fairly safe in a Wal-Mart.

    But, if it’s late enough in the apocalypse that Wal-mart is already overrun with looters and the like?, then all one can do is cover up all flesh, helmet up, and make a mad dash for a solidtary place way off the beaten path.

16. Some guy on 19 Dec 2007 at 11:26 pm #

    one thing i know is that

    ONE.)yes supermakets are inpractily (but not inpossible to defend)unless you have as everyone knows the TIME amount of people and if it’s clear or not.

    Perhaps the shoppers where caught off guard and all eaten and the mall is filled with the “z” people and well if you knew they where in there well it be just stupid to try and get in

    TWO.)(well i live in canada and we arn’t very famous with our friend’s next door about our gun laws “das Amaricans”) the mall is a BIG and time to time REALLY BIG light display and if you will have the time to paint all the windows and doors with black paint (or some other form of dark color)it take hours to do(depending HOW meny windows it has) that just to stay hidden from “z”s and well what more classic as the everyday Group of civilian’s trying to find potant leader to help to tell them what to do and get them to do it fast! surrounded by “z’s as well as finding some magical way out (if by chance you are found out) how will you escape the mosh pit of zombies surrounding you (and a note to people who do have guns if you fire one “unsilenced” shot well you have just annouced your sellf as mmmmmm huting time)the term suvival is to be noticed as a meaning of trying to keep out of danger
    so think of these things:

    1.)how much time do you have to perpare
    2.)how meny people do you have in your group and what can they do
    3.)who are the people who will keep your people together (and if possible)who will replace them after there gone.
    4.)how meny zombies are headded towards you(can you kill them all?)
    5.)find a silenced weapon(silencers are illigeal to civilans unless you have some from of swat officer millitay soilder who is atherized to use it or have one)stuff like some from of a bow or crossbow or somthing that DOSEN’T make a bang like a rifle

    and if you have to force your way out and is possible to do from a underground garage if you can find a large vehicles some times a armourd car or if by chance a bus or large trucks and sup it with mass armour and what ever custom do hikys

    extra stuff ya might wana do to it>) and make sure you wana jerry rig the gas tank to fill it from the inside for resons that the market has gas car’s need gas put 2 and 2 together and ya you can go for a bit well you might get through but still thera a problem with if a zombie tips it over or if its to of a mass “civilian tank”you might all it but hell it a big ass mall and well theres large quantitys of tanks of gas or propaine lite a fuse throw it out side (make sure your “civian tank” can suvive it can suvive the heat if you use it while inside if not throw it off the roof) and well the zombie are mostly down and by accident you get some 2 dreggre burns fortuenety you have medical supplise! but if you still need to you wana do to it and large blades or some from of battring ram to cut through them this my seem dumb to do in an infested area but if they break in your barricads. sorry to say to you guys who like the roof theres no way off the roof (unless you have a privet heli sorry to say is very unlikey to happen)with “z”s surrounding the building on the ground so if you plan to hold up there have an escape plan becuse well you can’t stay there forever so make sure theres another way out or a forcefull way out

    roof camper trick a tip

17. bob on 20 Dec 2007 at 2:33 am #

    The switches to turn off the automatic doors are on the doors themselves so that really wouldn’t be a problem and even though the glass is thick that would be my main worry.

18. Whipple on 25 Dec 2007 at 8:54 pm #

    Ok, see in my home town we have a walmart across the street from a home depot, target, burger king, 2 gas stations, a tacobell, a VIP, and a townfaire tire!

    see me and my friends made a plan that is amazing. we planned to barricade ourselves in the homedepot because you can weld and cover the doors with heavy metal and wood. there are plenty of generators to power the entire store and refrigeration and heat and light it. And not to add you have an almost never ending supply of weapons! I bet you are thinking “ha he is a fool he dosent have enough food to last a zombie invasion!” see this is where i foil you. We could make a form of pulley system connected to the roof with plenty of wood/strong rope and weight you can make a simple pulley system to carry people and food up and at the bottom of the pulley have a truck there with a bed and use a board that would fit in the bed. so that you can just drop the wood plank into the back fill it up at target or walmart(which both have guns and we also have a trading post about 2 miles down the road). and you just make a way in by breaking the front doors and back doors so then you can go in and get food load the truck and live for as long as you need with never ending weapons!

19. Spiraling on 29 Dec 2007 at 9:51 pm #

    There are very serious problems to take into account when you think of going to a super center. The main one that comes to mind is there are going to be a lot of people there already, who is to say they will let anyone else in, to their mind you could be one more body to keep supplied, instead of another well prepared zombie killing machine. Secondly, the super centers are going to be drained in massive amounts if the general public has knowledge of them, so it is doubtful that you will have the large amount of non perishables as you normally see. Finally, everywhere in the event of a Zombie uprising will be gridlocked in terms of cars, so unless one is within a mile of you, don’t expect to get there quickly.

    Imo, the best idea is to be constantly vigilant, and to, as to quote the Zombie Survival guide “Organize before they rise!”

20. saeferth on 30 Dec 2007 at 8:04 am #

    I live a ten minute walk away from ASDA (like walmart for the UK) but i’ll be damned if im going there! theyve got huge glass windows on almost every wall. and when the powers gone, they’ll be too big and dark to make sure theyre empty.
    I’ll be heading to my old place of work come Zday. its one of those small corner shop like mini marts. its got a fair bit of food, NO downstairs windows, steel shutters on the front door (theres a fire door you can see from the back, but i dont know where it is, if it is to that building at all), and if you move a couple ailes its big enough to get 2-3-4 cars inside. The other good thing about it is its even closer to my house than the super stores, its on a corner where 5 roads intersect (more escape routes), next to it is a chemist, and on the other side is a long row of buildings (break out of the roof and run along the tops of houses if needed).

21. Sanjit on 03 Jan 2008 at 4:37 pm #

    Super Stores also have a huge security system. From the control room you could easily keep watch on all the entrances/exits.
    But Wal-Mart would not be my first choice in the case of a Zombie Apocalypse. I would choose something more along the lines of Home Depot. More weapons, plenty of construction. And Vehicles so you could venture out in parties to grab food, and be well armed while doing it.

22. ZAC Admin on 03 Jan 2008 at 5:46 pm #

    “Super Stores also have a huge security system. From the control room you could easily keep watch on all the entrances/exits.”

    This is another reason why I personally like the idea. However, that all goes out the window if there is no power.

23. bob on 04 Jan 2008 at 3:05 pm #

    i would just like to point out that almost all walmarts and kmarts atleast in my area
    only have glass at the entrance ways which isnt incredibly large and would most likely
    have a gate that pulls down over and besides blocking that entrance with cars or other
    materials wouldnt be too difficult

24. Trenton on 09 Jan 2008 at 5:40 pm #

    I worked in a walmart for about 8 months……learning its ins and outs. I have come to this as my conclusion….some super stores although having to many entrances also have a vast amount of ways to keep them out! Walmart has dozens of hand powered fork lift jacks, meaning you could completely baroff an exit using racks and counters. Also these days most super walmarts have a tire express and lube center, which means maybe a vehicle…….and 9 times out of 10 they make the windows shatter proof. The downside is, clearing the store would be troublesome since there are so many places in the back areas of the store

25. GoGoCactusMan on 10 Jan 2008 at 6:25 am #

    I was also thinking Home Depot, tons of weapons, construction, gardening equipment (fertilizer) and tons space to grow food for the long haul. The only real problem would be in the getting settled, and not starving to death waiting for the crops to grow.

    A Home Depot may be a good secondary sanctuary or place to migrate (in case your first is overrun and you manage to escape) to be established during the winter (taking for granted you’re located above the white line, the geographical line where is gets cold enough to freeze zeds). Fortifying during the panic stage is probably a bad idea. Those stores are HUGE.

    Winter hits, head to the big HD, crack the heads once inside, clean house, fortify, and when spring hits stroll through the aisles with a rifle/handgun/basher to make sure no one was missed.

    The garden centers have seeds, fertilizer, tools, and most importantly books and guides (farmer’s almanac) so people know what they’re doing. And if I’m not mistaken there are also build-it-yourself green-houses.

    All you have to do is keep a good maize, beans and squash crop rotation so the soil doesn’t turn to dust. The few native American cultures who practiced horticulture used this crop rotation for hundred of years; it’s balanced diet with tons of fiber .

    And you have an endless supply of soil too, just dig for it using a jackhammer, although you’d have to fire up a generator and hook up an air compresser. Best of all, they come with instructions =P

    And a ton of people/cars can be working at the same time, taking for granted they want to do something.

    I’d elaborate more but I don’t think I need to.

26. GoGoCactusMan on 10 Jan 2008 at 6:28 am #

    Crap, forgot something about the garden center. Some are fenced of by chain link fence, not the sturdiest, but if walled up in advance then it’s no problem.

27. trainwreck on 14 Jan 2008 at 9:07 am #

    i live near an abandond train station and i go their all the time and if zombies came…i would hold up in a railway car or something… i could easily transport thing to and from my house. so if i need food i can get it…and if im feeling adventurous i would learn to type and go to the store up the street from me but i bet it would be easy…many “secret” paths that really me and a handfull of other people know about.

28. jediwannabe1 on 20 Jan 2008 at 9:24 pm #

    I believe that as long as there are still supplies left and you can manage to get inside, a shopping center like a wal-mart (wouldn’t want it to be too big though) would be excellent defense. As mentioned there are ample supplies and lots of things to barricade entrances with. But one thing that I don’t think was talked about in the article was TRAPS. With all those supplies you could build plenty of traps to put on the inside of the building in case zombies do get inside. One recipe that I learned is a small bomb made from fertilizer and anything flammable. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.
    MATERIALS:
    1. something like paper or other wrapping material (NOT CLOTH, CLOTH IS TOO BREATHABLE)
    2. Chemicals (Pesticide, fertilizer, etc.).
    3. something Flammable ( lighter fluid, starter fluid, etc.).
    4. something like cotton to saturate with flammable liquid
    PROCEDURE:
    Lay out about a 1ft by 1ft piece of the wrapping material, pour about 2-3 handfuls of chemical on it pour a small amount of flammable liquid on it. string out a bit of cotton so that it is thick enough to stay lit but long enough to use as a fuse. saturate the cotton w/ flammable liquid. put cotton on top of chemical and wrap the whole thing up with the wrapping material. MAKE SURE SOME OF THE COTTON IS STICKING UOT FOR A FUSE!!!
    If you make a LOT of these you can line them up at the doors and entrances, so that if zombies get in, you can throw one at the gruop of bombs, hopefully causing a chain reaction.

    WARNING: ONLY USE TRAPS AS A LAST RESORT. IF THIS IS CARRIED OUT WRONGLY, THE CHAIN REACTION MIGHT NOT OCCUR.

    Also If you have access to the roof, you can throw bombs down from there.

29. jediwannabe1 on 21 Jan 2008 at 8:39 pm #

    I think that Southern_Guy is wrong. I don’t want to start any hostile arguments when I say so, but I think he is wrong. The reason I say this is because when a hurricane hits it hits once and leaves, leaving people the opportunity to run about stealing things. But when a zombie outbreak occurs, it will happen for a LLLLOOONNNNNGGG time. When peaople are surrounded by zombies in their homes, they won’t be thinking “Hey! let’s go maneuver through the gigantic crowd of zombies at the Wal-Mart parking lot, and steal a bunch of stuff!” NO. They will be thinking, “Oh, Hell… Look at all the zombies outside… well, we’d better not go out there.”

    And I can see that you might have been thinking about the beginning of the outbreak where there might not be that many zombies, but at that point people will be worrying about trying to come into contact with their friends and family, and trying to meet up somewhere familiar, like someones house, to make a survival strategy.

    I don’t want to start an argument with you Southern_Guy, but I do hope that you will post a rebuttal focusing on some important facts, so that I can make a better informed decision about where to take refuge when an outbreak occurs.

30. jediwannabe1 on 22 Jan 2008 at 11:07 am #

    One plus side about hiding in a home depot, like GoGoCactusMan was talking about, is that you could fit a car through those big doors that are usually in the front of a home depot. So if you think that the zombie are JUST ABOUT to break through the barricades you have put up, you can drive the car and smash through the doors and (hopefully) drive through the crowd of zombies.

    This might not work if you have huge steel beans barricading your door…

    Also, another good thing about home depot is they probably have welding kits, so you could make a lot of things like weapons or even a freakin’ suit of armor.

31. whipple on 22 Jan 2008 at 11:05 pm #

    see also living in nh i have to deal with snow so me and my friends were rethinking the idea until i remembered the fact that within 300 meters of my house is the highway department which has plows in it.

    a little hotwireing and that puppy is mine

    then drive my ass to walmart/home depot/target and plow my way through cars on my way. and with multiple places near by in the same area(same area has an autozone,marketbasket(grocerystore),staples, ,michelin, monro, and a bunch of auto places) therefor i have alot of resources to fix things….

    but you can always imagine some plans to do for escape in the homedepot like make sliding heavy doors that you can move in case of need to escape or if you need to grab supplies. like im pretty sure i would live during a zombie invasion. me and my friends have planned it out for awhile now actually. if anyone has any constructive criticism i will greatly appreciate it!

32. jediwannabe1 on 24 Jan 2008 at 1:15 pm #

    One more thing I would like to add about why shoping centers would be great if you could get inside; clothing. I think you could find some of the best things to wear for a zombie outbreak in a store like wall mart.
    some of the things you will want include:

    1. Karharrt (don’t know how to spell it) coveralls; they are made of extremely tough material, much tougher than leather, it would be very hard for a zombie to bite through. (Get one with a hood)

    2. Goggles/biker’s glasses; goggles or biker’s glasses (the ones with the foam around the edge to keep sweat out of your eyes) would be excellent because you never know how the virus or whatever could get inside you.

    3. Face mask; like the ones doctors wear, because no matter what, you do not want blood in your mouth.

    4. Boots; get some nice shitkickers.

    5. Gloves: I think leather would be the best for this because thick gloves will hamper your dexterity.

    6. Socks; get thick socks that dry quickly.

    All this will make you just that much harder to bite.

33. JC123 on 05 Feb 2008 at 2:55 am #

    Definitely agree with “Southern_guy.” Living in a shopping mall sounds great when you think like an adolescent. In reality:

    1. Far too many entrances to guard them all well. All it takes is one door to go down when you’re not aware.

    2. Other humans – whether they’re looting, paranoid and kill you by mistake/on purpose, or just greedy and won’t let you in, they’re trouble.

    3. Little civilisation plan – “hey, lets let everyone in, and we’ll all live together.” Power plays ending in bloodshed, no realistic way to check everyone for bites and possible infections…the list goes on.

    4. Treasure turns to trash – your fresh food goes off, your electrical good are worthless when there’s no mains power/t.v network/fone networks.

    5. Stores aren’t built for living. You’d most likely need to create or go without proper bathroom and cooking facilities. (The most a supermarket would have is staff bathrooms that might have a shower if you’re lucky, and a breakroom with a microwave…)

    6. Impossible to barricade most places – you might think they’ve got big heavy doors on the docks, but it’s also likely that they have just as large glass windows/doors to advertise the product inside. And if they do get in, most shopping centres/supermarkets are open plan, with limited options for back up barricading.

    On the link Southern_guy gave someone suggests the distribution centres for the supermarkets instead. It does reduce some of the problems – i.e. less people will know about them, built as a warehouse not a display centre and thus better for defending. But still, I would never recommend staying there. If you have to, quickly grab supplies and go, and I’d stay away until after the initial panic.

34. Mental 6's&7's on 12 Feb 2008 at 8:00 pm #

    Never hole up in a department store or any kind of store for that matter. There are so many places for a Zombie to hide or wander around, you could be there for hours and then all of a sudden it could appear from a rack of cheap Pleather coats and boom you’re dead. Besides, I would be so freakin’ paranoid in a department store because if there is a Zombie apocalypse then chances are the electricity is out and the entire store will be pitch black at night and near dark in the day time. Have you ever seen a department store with windows?
    The comparatively best choice would be to hole up in your own house or a basement type setting, block all the entrances/windows with wooden planks/barricades and cover as much as possible so that it is impossible to see in or out and be as quiet as possible. If they don’t know you are in there then why would they bother to attack it?
    Also, has anyone ever considered a type of zombie other then the slow-Resident Evil zombies or the fast moving-Dawn of the Dead zombies or even the vomiting-28 Days/Weeks later zombies? What if we come across something much worse?

35. jediwannabe1 on 04 Mar 2008 at 7:07 pm #

    dude, look. the thing about people who might already be there not letting you in, if they say you can’t come in then leave, that shouldn’t even be a reason not to go into shopping centers.

    Also, the thing about letting others in… don’t.

    There is so much shit you could barricade MULTIPLE entrances with, that it’s not even funny, furniture, chains, (maybe wood), TVs. Don’t even say there would be too many doors.

    Mental 6′s&’s… ZOMBIES DON”T HIDE. One quick run through a store could tell you if there were any zombies. and even if you do overlook one, chances are that no one in your party is even going to want to close their eyes, let alone sleep, so if there is a zombie(s) in the store, chances are there won’t be that many because you can’t overlook a friggin’ horde of zombies… so one or two zombies shouldn’t be that hard if you don’t panic.

    If the power is out, what does it matter? IT WILL BE OUT EVERYWHERE! Besides a store like wal-mart will have a lot of candles and burnable shit in it, just make sure you disable the sprinkler/ fire alarm somehow.

    Stores like wal-mart have bathroom, toilet paper, sinks, and have a drain right in the middle of the bathroom floor. If you need to take a shower get some shampoo from the hygene department, get some empty milk jugs and fill them up at the sink. Boom! shower problem fixed.

    Proper barricades should keep even normal, looting humans out and besides, there won’t be too many of those people, It’s the Zompacalypse for Christ’s sake.

    There is plenty of non-perishable, pre-cooked food in a place like wal-mart to feed AFRICA! if you run out in less than a year, you’re either an extremely fat bastard, or you have enough people to go on raiding parties because it might not be that every store is taken by other refugees. if you run out and you’re by yourself, your most likely screwed.

    AND if the power doesn’t go out you have yourself YEARS of entertainment in just the game department alone.

    I have no doubt that a department store would be the best if you could get inside. I am in absolute agreement with the ZAC administrator, the hardest probllem would be keeping everyone undercontrol.

36. Bwomp on 16 Apr 2008 at 9:56 am #

    Only a couple of people have thought about the “no power” issue. Generators are great, but they require fuel of some sort. I have never seen a super center of any kind that has the gas station attached to the main store. Unless you can get ALL the fuel into the store from the start of the outbreak it will be useless. Sure there are small 1 gallon and 5 gallon containers to fill…but by the time you realise what is happening and try to fill these it’ll be too late. Also power is needed to run the pumps.
    Once word gets out on what is happening anarchy and chaos will reign supreme. Going to one of these stores will be on everyone elses mind also. Traffic will gridlock. People will destroy stuff just to be doing it.
    Your best bet is to have a secure place already. If not, then be prepared to travel to find an isolated area. Preferably out in the rural areas. If you look at some rural areas..they are divided by fences or natural barriers..with usually a driveway connected to the road as an open entrance. Less population = less walking dead…for now. More fencing and natural barriers = more protection…for now. All of this depends on what “type” of zombie there is. Fast movers will ruin your day and also decrease your chances of survival exponentially. Slow movers make things easier.

37. Aaron on 19 Apr 2008 at 8:36 pm #

    I have a question? If zombies came and you were to run out of food, would you be able to eat the Zombie. because if you were to cook the meat it would sterilize the meat, but would it get rid of the virus! I have been pondering this for a long time and would like to know the answer.

38. zack on 06 Jul 2008 at 3:00 pm #

    I don’t think so. use a flamethrower on a zombie and I guess all you get is a burning (but still capable of infecting, zombie)

39. Madmaxogle on 27 Jul 2008 at 4:39 pm #

    A super department store would be hell on earth during a crisis.As far as barricading it for defense.What happens when the entire town is dead and you have 100,000 zombies at your door?I definitely wouldn’t want to be stuck in a damn Walmart. Like someone said earlier,hit a Cabellas,or surplus store.Suv’s are a bad idea for vehicle though whoever said that.Way too top heavy.A few zeds can flip you over easy and running over a bunch of them will only make you flip or bust your radiator.

40. Robob on 17 Sep 2008 at 7:15 pm #

    I’m not sure if it’s been said yet or not, but, if you DO end up in somewhere like Wal-Mart during an outbreak, even if you’ve got it fortified against zeds, your green zone on the roof, all that, you’ve still got to remember, an outbreak will spread chaos. People are going to go literally CRAZY. There may be some survivors out there that are against you, for no reason other than you’re in a secure location and they’re not. I really don’t know what else to say, I just think it’s a bad idea due to the widespread panic there would be.

41. maratuzero on 25 Sep 2008 at 12:24 pm #

    I work at a BJ’s(bulk food membership type of place) and it can be very easily secured. there’s only two ways in, the loading docks in back and the front entrance that has large stutter doors( no need to waste time building a front line barricade, but a second line inside the shutters would be one of the first things i did after i was sure the building was secure) the back entrance at the loading docks has a security station that needs to buzz you in to get thought a second inside door(before you get through the second door your basically in a chain-link box. there are no windows with the exception off some skylights. the place is basically a warehouse so you could easily setup a second level safe zone up in the the storage racks above the products at sale level. if you’ve ever been to a store like this or have seen Employee of the Month you know what i mean. You also have every thing you need to survive for an extended period of time(food, clothing, weapons, entertainment). Think, the warehouse they keep all the stuff you’d find in a mall.

42. sofa+pizza=happy on 01 Nov 2008 at 5:37 pm #

    You need a car to get to mine but its a bad place for zombies, because of so many levals, you could just kick one in the face and 50 would fall over. also there are guns in the place sub machinegus, sniper rifles, shotguns, bows and arrows , and of course my 2 favirite weapons of all time. Lorries and urinals.

43. Zed's Dead on 03 Dec 2008 at 6:13 am #

    This very question has plagued my mind for a long time. Wal-Mart would certainly carry just about all the supplies one would need: guns, ammo (a shit load of ammo if you want to be scientific about it), clothes, and just about every kind of canned/boxed/ready-to-eat food you can think of. But is it worth the risk and are there better alternatives? Some very important questions need to be asked: WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, and HOW.

    WHEN – More than anything we need to know when the best time is to go to a Super Center. Do you want to rush there immediately and hope the infection hasn’t gotten out of hand yet? Or, do you wait until everything has settled down a bit and then try to sneak in? If you go right away you have to contend with the panicking masses and frantic drivers trying to get there and loot the entire place. If one person were to be infected you would never know until it was too late. Control of the situation is key and when people are running around in a state of panic control is simply impossible. So then it would seem the best choice is waiting out the initial threat and try to go in to scavenge what you can when you can better control the situation.

    WHO – When you’re in a situation like this, you never want to split up, so the question is not who will you take with you, but who will you meet when you get there, and what to do about them. It isn’t a stretch of the imagination to think that somebody else may have ventured out in search of supplies at the local Wal-Mart. If you’re lucky their may already be people there, holding down the fort. Now you can combine forces and improve your chances of survival. But, let’s say that these people are either ill equipped and are more likely to get you killed than lend you a hand. Then you have to decide whether you’re going to try and take charge and remedy the situation or try to gather a few things and go on your way. Of course, the people already there will probably resent you for trying to take “their” supplies and may not give it up without a fight. This will require a heart warming monologue inspiring man’s charitable nature and general good-natured cooperation, OR a quick and tactically maneuvered coup that will elevate you to your new position as lord of the flies. Alternatively you could just leave empty-handed and worse off than you were (less gas and no immediate cover).
    Of course the place could be deserted, with the very real possibility of Zombies shambling about. Now you’re faced with the task of clearing the place while searching for supplies. This can be seriously risky. In a place as large as Wal-Mart, it is almost a certainty that you will miss one or two potential hiding spots for the infected to lurk. In this case you want everyone to stick together, have exactly the items you need in mind, and make a cautious but speedy run down the aisles grabbing what you need (and ONLY what you need. The newest Harry Potter book is not essential to survival. In fact, if you do go looking for Harry Potter I hope you do get eaten. One less person in the world that has no idea what a decent sci-fi/fantasy book is. But i digress). Once you have your shopping cart loaded with everything you need, make a break for the exit and keep a sharp eye out for those Zeds lurking in the shadows. You may be tempted to try and turn the store into your fortress, but you are about 90% guaranteed to lose at least one party member to hidden infected. Are you willing to take the chance that it could be you? These are your basic scenarios, though actual results may vary.

    WHAT – Now I’ll go into detail of what it is you’re looking for. You came all this way, you better be damned sure it’s worth it.
    Food: anything you can eat without heating is absolutely great. Depending on how long it’s been, there will probably be some bread left that hasn’t molded. Canned beans work, just be sure you have some way of opening them (can opener would be a good idea). Beef jerky will save your life, take it all. Anything sealed and unrefrigerated will probably do. Oh, and try not to forget the little things like WATER.
    Gear: Be sure you are well armed. Wal-Mart has an entire hunting section. Take a side arm for everyone and enough ammo to last you. Be sure to have at least one or two heavier weapons, like a rifle or shotgun. A good knife is a must. I don’t mean a multi-tool, though they certainly can be useful, I’m talking about a real survival knife. Something that you can cut shit with, not just whittle a stick.
    Clothes: You probably aren’t going to have a whole lot of opportunity to wash your clothes in the following weeks so several changes will be nice. If you have any blood-stained clothes now is the time to get rid of them and exchange them for a fresh set. Be sure to get blankets for the night. Towels can come in handy as any Douglas Adams fan will tell you. Socks. If you’ve ever watched survivor man you will know how important fresh socks are. If you lose your foot to a nasty fungus, your brains will soon follow. That brings me to shoes. If there are ladies with you wearing some sort of ridiculously unpractical foot wear like flip flops or heals, get them some running shoes.

    WHERE – This one is easy. What’s the closest place that will stock what you need? That’s where you want to go. If you have options, pick the place that will involve the least risk of getting in and out.

    HOW – Well this is where it all comes down to isn’t it? How. Well hopefully if you’ve gotten this far you’ve been paying attention. The most important thing is that you have a plan, stay together, and keep your cool. If it seems to risky, then it probably is. All the supplies in the world aren’t going to do you any good if you get bitten. Learn some tactical formations that SWAT teams use. When they clear a house they have a systematic approach that allows them to keep their lives in hostile situations. This is what you want to emulate. Above all, stay in control.

    Well that’s all for my lengthy thoughts. Be aware that my section on “WHAT” was shortened. For a full list of gear, you should check other posts in this section as well as the Mobile Zombie Preparedness Kit.

44. R scary on 20 Dec 2008 at 6:22 am #

    Here is my thought

    it sounds like a good plan but here is the flaw

    Everyone else with a heart beat is going to have the same plan

45. GonzoTheBurner on 01 Jan 2009 at 5:38 pm #

    I think if you are at a place like walmart during the outbreak, it’s best to @ least try and fortify the bitch. Some one can rally the people together, if not you, to get work done. Panic will make most people compliant enough to follow orders from anyone with confidence and a plan. You would be surprised at how many people will shirk responsibility, even for their own welfare, in favor of rolling over and dying. The majority always hopes that someone else will step up to the plate.

    I say your biggest problem will be trying to barricade the weak points with frantic people trying at the same time, to escape and save their granparents, kids, puppies, precious belongings and what not. Designate a rear entrance for those assholes to leave out of and barricade the large points- of course if everyone leaves, you should too!

    Make sure you have the balls to “take care of” the troublesome people- such as the sadists, those only concerned with looting and “helping themselves” and people who are histerical. Even put together, these should make up a minority of the population. Save yourself the trouble, and the livesof others, and get rid of these people at the getgo. They will be the easiest to identify. They will not be well liked, unproductive and annoy the hell out of you. These individuals are Z-Day threats, just as fire, starvation and infection. They will kill people.

    There are tons of other things I could discuss, but most everyone has the same idea.

    Another cool thing about large commercial buildings now adays are the skylights they have that help the businesses alieviate energy consumption costs. This means you can poke around during the day without have torches and lights when the power goes out.

    Anyhow, the point being, if you are there already, start pushing shopping carts and soda machines in front of the doors. If you are not at walmart, stay away from walmart. It will be hard to do with their selection and extra low prices, but fight the urge.

    “Damn you Sam Walton, why you leave us? Why you have tuh go en die and leave the Walmart to Satan?”

    -Disgruntled customer

46. Sharpshooter on 02 Feb 2009 at 8:36 pm #

    i wouldn’t pass this by… me and my friends are all paranoid as hell when it comes to shit like this… we have a few weapons around the house (i have a hunting rifle and a machete) and i have a longbed ford F150 so we can just all pile in and then cruse to the wal-mart… i wouldnt stay in it but i would sure as hell (ha nice wording) raid it for any supplies… it may not be much but remember: take what you can get on the run

47. Erin on 27 Feb 2009 at 7:24 pm #

    I would have to agree that during the panic stage, it would not be a good idea to stay at a superstore. Too many people that don’t know what’s going on, and so on…I’d stay in the country; my dad’s house is basically a storage shed with rooms at the front. (no easy way to break in)
    But not everyone can get to a place like this. If you have nowhere else to go, I’d say go to an IKEA. They have virtually EVERYTHING…and not as many entrances as many supercentres and such. The initial sweep of the place would take a while, but they already have a functioning kitchen and cafeteria, so if you have many people, there wouldn’t be too much of a problem. They also have beds already set up, and if you have more people, you can just go and build more furniture. I’m sure a clever enough person could probably set up the showers with the current plumbing, and they have enough bathrooms to handle large crowds. No guns, but I’m sure someone will have had one at home and will bring it with them. If not, there are plenty of bludgeon type objects.
    There are obvious problems with this, namely the lack of extended food, but there really isn’t any perfect location to be in in case of a zombie outbreak.

48. YourFutureLeader on 03 Mar 2009 at 2:46 am #

    The massive amount of spoiled food after 2 weeks in a Walmart without electricity would smell so bad you’d rather be outside with the zombies. Plus greedy Christmas customers broke down the doosr zombie style at a walmart last year. Finally, every idiot will think to go there to survive and that is what will kill them all when “it” happens. Think outside of the box.

49. Mike on 04 Mar 2009 at 12:27 am #

    Even better than a walmart or superstore I think is a Bass Pro shop or other outdoors place. Think about it… u have all the good stuff u need like weapons, clothing, food, ATV’s, generators and its all compact easy to move in case you need to. Hell, you could grab the keys to the big truck with the boat in tow and make your way to the closest river and escape that way. plus you’d have backpacks to carry all ur crap in, you could put on several layers to stop them from chewing you up so easily… The Bass Pro shop is THE PLACE to go for z-day. Now I got the idea of getting a bow and arrow stuck in my head…

50. Chris on 04 Mar 2009 at 12:34 am #

    ok i’m gonna go ahead and say super grocery store is one of the top 5 WORST practical places to hunker down during a zombie attack.

    come on dude

51. Thomas on 24 Mar 2009 at 9:46 pm #

    What about using a pawn shop as a base of operations? It may lack food, but they usually have an extensive collection of firearms, ammunition, tools, and other misc items that could make the difference between survival or a gory end.
    Most of the pawn shops in my area have bulletproof shatter resistant glass installed with a wire grill/bars on the outside.
    Although I personally believe in remaining mobile in the event of a zombie infestation. Remaining mobile eliminates the complacency that comes with staying in one location for an extended period of time.

52. Cid on 27 Mar 2009 at 3:20 am #

    Us geeks must also be prepared to lead. We are pretty much the only ones who will know what to do when the Zombie Apocalypse happens, and it’ll be up to us to organize the survivors. Although the best course of action is still to ditch everyone except your loved ones. And even they may fall. Be ready for mercy kills.

    My plan is to head for the marina, grab a boat and sail to the Isle of Wight or the Channel Islands off the coast of France if I can make it. Unfortunately, at the moment my plan is severely flawed. First of all I have no clue how to sail, or steal a boat for that matter. Secondly there are two lock gateways between the marina and the open seas. Thirdly, I would have to enter the narrow winding streets that make up the commercial centre to stock up on supplies. Luckily they are not 5 minutes from the marina, which is of course at the same time another downside, being so close to a bazillion people running around screaming and dying and turning. Back-up plan is just to get as far away from civilization as humanly possible. And then some, cuz zombies ain’t human.

    The dilemma of whether or not to go to a super-store is moot, seeing as we have none here.

53. Jamie on 08 May 2009 at 4:15 pm #

    Assuming that someone would eventually come rescue those inside the shopping centre the plan isn’t all that bad; but in a full scale zombie apocalypse people need to learn to adapt themselves to be able to live and thrive under the threat of the zombie invasion.

    If you’re going to barricade yourself somewhere you want it to be as far away from a major city as possible. Major cities mean a large population; and a large population means a lot of undead to deal with.

    The resources inside the superstore are all well and good, but eventually they will run out. Eventually the store will run out of food and the amount of zombies waiting outside by that point could be tremendous.

    In the event of a worldwide zombie outbreak you would want to secure an area away from a major city that can be easily defended, but also a place where you could easily grow your own food and get rid of waste. A superstore full of people locked in Wal-Mart with a toilet that doesn’t work will result in a lot of shit. And I mean that literally folks.

    Renewable resources and entertainment are the main issue here. If the human race is going to survive you need to be able to build a self sustaining community with little or no risk of zombies reaching them. Of course, that’s easier said than done; but these are the goals we must strive towards if the human race is to outlive such a catastophe.

54. tara on 30 Jun 2009 at 9:42 pm #

    it takes just about one year for a body to decompose when left exposed to the elements that means no more meat to operate the bone so it may take a matter of months for it to spread and resist containment after one year the first of them will no longer be a threat but there is no way to know when the latest victim is taken so I think it is wise to fortify your sanctuary with two or more years worth of supplys for each person

55. tara on 01 Jul 2009 at 1:32 am #

    I was just thinking that people mat not have the full scope on the types of “zombies” there could be the slow of body the slow of mind the weak the fast body the thinkers the unusually strong or agile ones that have speech ones that seem uninfected the ones that have over developed hearing or smell ones that use tools ones that stay out of light ect……. I was also thinking that this could be spread in a number of ways sex for example or just kissing air born can it be spread to animals or flys is it a gas the infected give off or just skin contact or virus do you need to be infected or will the dead all simply rise is it an act of man nature or god if it is an ant of man then there is a cure if it is an act of nature then it will run its course if it is an act of god …….who can say what then but the point is all the best planes can be ruined easy enough have an idea use what you have at your disposal and allow for immediate change

56. Voydlander on 09 Jul 2009 at 2:57 am #

    Its been mentioned that perishable food items like meats, fruits and vegetables could be a problem after refrigeration goes out. Not so!

    Most superstores carry food dehydrators. With salt and spices from the grocery its a simple matter of drying thoes rations out with minimal drain on your generators fuel supply. Even without a generator, weather may make it possible to sun dry foods on the roof, o is nothing else its always possible to improvise a smoker of some sort.

    Once you have that, you’ll be sitting pretty on a nice stash of jerky and dried fruits.

57. 3-15 INF on 02 Aug 2009 at 10:50 pm #

    The last place I want to be is where everybody else is- I wouldn’t be anywhere near a shopping mall, hospital, or walmart. Think PLAGUE

58. Justin on 05 Aug 2009 at 12:35 am #

    You should already have a location plotted out, preferably a two story building with one stairway up that can be broken, along with an elevator or a controlled access point.

    Scope out the surrounding location once your desired defense point is decided, make sure locations are ideal. drug stores, grocery stores, home and construction supplies, etc etc.

    Have enough provisions stalked up and ready to go with your survival kits(if you don’t know/have what I’m taking about read- Zombie survival guide: complete protection from the living dead)
    and then get back to the rest of this. After the survival gear is ready, contacting your ‘team’ should be the next step.(you should already have the members of said party informed and geared similar to what you yourself have gathered.) Once this is done, meet up at your destination. (good thing to keep in mind, is plotting out a route which organizes everyone into a whole as soon as possible.) traveling in numbers is bad for the health, but traveling alone is much much worse.

    Once you’ve gained the high ground and everything is set up nicely within your position, you can slowly create a perimeter and make pocket runs to the closest drug/gun and grocery store possible.(go to the gun store closest by if you don’t have one in your survival kits, but you should be prepared for this!.)

    Long term provisioning is beneficial the first few runs but you want to try getting your hands on all kinds of drugs as much as possible. Medical substances will be the new currency of the zombie apocalypse. They say those who will control the insulin will control the world in such a future. (diabetic slaves)

    One of the keys to survival in such an environment is always being ahead of the game. You need to think ten moves up in every direction and be able to use what you have and can gain to your overall benefit and hopefully, survival.

59. Anya on 18 Sep 2009 at 10:58 pm #

    Screw Wal-Mart (or the UK equivalent). Staying close to a population centre in the middle of an outbreak? Nosiree. I’m staying in the 100+ year old house with small windows and thick walls, a decent distance from the nearest village and miles from the nearest town. I’m going to board up the windows, keep supplies on the top floor, replace the staircases with retractable ladders, institute a guard tower system, and then forget all about the zombie threat and start trying to make a sustainable community. It’ll be great, as long as it doesn’t go all Lord of the Flies on us. That’s what I’m really worried about.

    And if we lose the house, we can always fall back to the nuclear bunker up the road. Less sustainable, but okay for a last stand!

60. spartnrnger P77 on 02 Jan 2011 at 1:24 pm #

    Even if you get to the store first, many people will still flock to the mall for some reason or another. I would personally suggest avoiding the malls unless you have no choice or there are no undead to be found. Despite the fact that by the time you’ll decide this is nesasary, most of the supply’s could and probably will be gone. However, not everyone may be searching for that unconventional item that has deadly potential. A sharpened shovel blade, for instance may not be the first item on one’s list. Some may forego the bow and arrows found in some store’s sports sections, not the best weapon for crowds, but invaluable for silent take-downs. Just be sure to never overlook or underestimate what you find in a raided store.

61. Tom on 29 Oct 2011 at 2:32 pm #

    This is the stupidest idea possible…so, do it! Everyone should go there, then I won’t have to deal with dipshits who don’t already have a plan, you’ll all be dead.

62. So guy on 26 Mar 2012 at 11:11 pm #

    Think about it how many people would be in a super shopping centre if one zombie got in and bit one at the start of the invasion then the whole place would be pack hasn’t anyone played dead rising also the further away from town would be best tough it out in the town for a while until little people are left then drive out and go to a huge mountain range with huge plain near in to see any hoards are coming and have a farm and a water tank or 2 and your all set

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