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	<title>Comments on: Handgun Choices for Close Range Zombie Defense</title>
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		<title>By: clay houle</title>
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		<dc:creator>clay houle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>military standard M9 or 50cal deagle... if needed id use a 10gauge thick mild steel bat a sharp tip and for fun a pocket knife welded tacks with duct around it so you cant break it off if the bat is busted or rusted due to its just skinning off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>military standard M9 or 50cal deagle&#8230; if needed id use a 10gauge thick mild steel bat a sharp tip and for fun a pocket knife welded tacks with duct around it so you cant break it off if the bat is busted or rusted due to its just skinning off</p>
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		<title>By: mumbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>mumbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CZ SP-01 tactical, trinium night sights, hogue grip 18+1 and a Ruger GP-100, 6&quot;bbl, stainless....The CZ for sheer capacity and availability of 9mm....The .357 for power if needed and .38 if they&#039;re available....both are a lil on the heavy side but never have had any problems as far as reliability....main weapon would prob. be my M&amp;P 15-22.....scoped and a bi-pod and its picken em off yards away....quad tac rails gives it lots of room for all the fun accessories, laser, flashlight, scopes/red dot, etc.....not getting into the other long gun choices as that is not the topic.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CZ SP-01 tactical, trinium night sights, hogue grip 18+1 and a Ruger GP-100, 6&#8243;bbl, stainless&#8230;.The CZ for sheer capacity and availability of 9mm&#8230;.The .357 for power if needed and .38 if they&#8217;re available&#8230;.both are a lil on the heavy side but never have had any problems as far as reliability&#8230;.main weapon would prob. be my M&amp;P 15-22&#8230;..scoped and a bi-pod and its picken em off yards away&#8230;.quad tac rails gives it lots of room for all the fun accessories, laser, flashlight, scopes/red dot, etc&#8230;..not getting into the other long gun choices as that is not the topic.</p>
<p>good luck all</p>
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		<title>By: Andy's Gun World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy's Gun World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would take a G11 with Red dot and a CZ 75 with three round burst. Then I would buy light weight pro and Ninja pro so I could sneek up on the zombies. I&#039;d also get RC XD, Napalm, and then attack dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would take a G11 with Red dot and a CZ 75 with three round burst. Then I would buy light weight pro and Ninja pro so I could sneek up on the zombies. I&#8217;d also get RC XD, Napalm, and then attack dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best wepon that i would use would be a brearta because it can have a better aim and the revolver is good for a gun if you are having 2 secondary like me. you caan have to secandary\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best wepon that i would use would be a brearta because it can have a better aim and the revolver is good for a gun if you are having 2 secondary like me. you caan have to secandary\</p>
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		<title>By: Angryvikingman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angryvikingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, stupid panicky people should be left to get eaten while the rest of us get away. Them and the religious nuts who always start something. 

Aside from that, I really disagree with this article with the choice of handguns. Yes, lots of people like the &quot;tactical tupperware&quot; type guns, but I like good ole reliable steel when it comes to a handgun. I own a CZ. CZ pistols are used by more police and military organizations in the world than the pistols of any 2 other major manufacturers combined. They&#039;re ultra reliable, accurate, affordable, and come in a variety of shapes and sizes. The most popular of which is the CZ 75. This model has lots of variants, but the base model can take mags ranging in size from 10 rounds to 32 rounds, just like the glock. They&#039;re really easy to clean and care for. I love my CZ 75 SP-01, and I use it to compete in IDPA matches. I have 3 18rnd mags and 1 32rnd mag. That puts me at a total of 86 rounds that I can carry for use when needed. I&#039;ll definately be adding more mags soon. I love this gun and I&#039;ll be getting the CZ 97B as soon as I can afford it. (.45 cal) I suggest you check out their great line of guns. www.cz-usa.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, stupid panicky people should be left to get eaten while the rest of us get away. Them and the religious nuts who always start something. </p>
<p>Aside from that, I really disagree with this article with the choice of handguns. Yes, lots of people like the &#8220;tactical tupperware&#8221; type guns, but I like good ole reliable steel when it comes to a handgun. I own a CZ. CZ pistols are used by more police and military organizations in the world than the pistols of any 2 other major manufacturers combined. They&#8217;re ultra reliable, accurate, affordable, and come in a variety of shapes and sizes. The most popular of which is the CZ 75. This model has lots of variants, but the base model can take mags ranging in size from 10 rounds to 32 rounds, just like the glock. They&#8217;re really easy to clean and care for. I love my CZ 75 SP-01, and I use it to compete in IDPA matches. I have 3 18rnd mags and 1 32rnd mag. That puts me at a total of 86 rounds that I can carry for use when needed. I&#8217;ll definately be adding more mags soon. I love this gun and I&#8217;ll be getting the CZ 97B as soon as I can afford it. (.45 cal) I suggest you check out their great line of guns. <a href="http://www.cz-usa.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cz-usa.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: big bear29</title>
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		<dc:creator>big bear29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be a bit off topic but I hate how a lot of the hollywood movies play out . It&#039;s always the people that are the smartest , bravest or the ones that know how to survive that end up staying behind and sacrificing themselves to save a bunch of morons that have all the survival skills of a bunch of suicidal lemmings that end up getting killed any way . If I was facing an advancing hoard of zombies and I was stuck with some malibu barbie look alike and all this idiot would do is stand around and cry and scream at the sight of the advancing hoard , I would not give up my life to distract the zombies just so that idiot could run around the corner and get herself killed because she decided to take a break because she thinks its safe just because she can&#039;t see the zombies anymore . I don&#039;t care how long her legs are or how big her breasts are I would not throw away my life to save some one that doesn&#039;t even have the will to save themselves .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be a bit off topic but I hate how a lot of the hollywood movies play out . It&#8217;s always the people that are the smartest , bravest or the ones that know how to survive that end up staying behind and sacrificing themselves to save a bunch of morons that have all the survival skills of a bunch of suicidal lemmings that end up getting killed any way . If I was facing an advancing hoard of zombies and I was stuck with some malibu barbie look alike and all this idiot would do is stand around and cry and scream at the sight of the advancing hoard , I would not give up my life to distract the zombies just so that idiot could run around the corner and get herself killed because she decided to take a break because she thinks its safe just because she can&#8217;t see the zombies anymore . I don&#8217;t care how long her legs are or how big her breasts are I would not throw away my life to save some one that doesn&#8217;t even have the will to save themselves .</p>
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		<title>By: Sonwoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonwoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well.. I own a Beretta m9 9x19mm parabellum. I would think it&#039;s a good choice against zombies. ( Don&#039;t you think?). I do stockpile surplus ammunition(4 extra mags and about 500 rds) in my house, just IN CASE an apocalypse as this happens. Personally, I think it&#039;s better to just have a handgun with a good amount of rounds (15 Rds) in each magazine and you can aim well with. Yea.. it is kinda big and a little heavy for a 9mm.. but all that adrenaline pumpin in ya?!, i don&#039;t think an extra pound or two of weight would hinder you from running from them as fast as you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well.. I own a Beretta m9 9x19mm parabellum. I would think it&#8217;s a good choice against zombies. ( Don&#8217;t you think?). I do stockpile surplus ammunition(4 extra mags and about 500 rds) in my house, just IN CASE an apocalypse as this happens. Personally, I think it&#8217;s better to just have a handgun with a good amount of rounds (15 Rds) in each magazine and you can aim well with. Yea.. it is kinda big and a little heavy for a 9mm.. but all that adrenaline pumpin in ya?!, i don&#8217;t think an extra pound or two of weight would hinder you from running from them as fast as you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t feel that I fit the profile of most posters here. Here&#039;s my two cents... my tactical background is as a martial artist for eighteen years, and as a hunter for ten, and as a rock climber for two. Here are some random strategic zombie-related thoughts (while still staying in the general same book as the thread topic):

Capacity, accuracy, practical stopping power, ease of use and maintenance, universality, and convenience are all pluses.

Many of the good (in my opinion after having read way too many forums-and watching tactical videos) ones have been listed: USP, Sig226, 1911 (although it has a lot of haters out there), 92FS, .357... all powerful, accurate, and easy to feed. Maybe a nice .22 for training or light-duty use... am I missing anything important? The only pistol I have fired is an old .22 revolver half a dozen times and a glock 9mm once. I&#039;d drop the .22 it in a heartbeat for any of the others, but until I see something better it&#039;s my best friend (after my BSA, double-barrel (sawing it into a near-pistol on Z-Day), and wakizashi. 

I&#039;ve spent infinitely more time firing rifles and shotguns than pistols (remington speedmaster .22 (8x32) , BSA Monarch 30.06 (w/Bushnell), Win 1897 12ga, Colombian ver. of k98 30.06, and Beretta side by side 20ga. A pistol would just be another tool-and likely a little-used one. I&#039;d trade some pistols for a high-end wakizashi or even really good-quality hunting knife. Generally, we want distance, and distance means rifles. Vs. Z&#039;s I&#039;d take shotgun&gt;pistol close range... conclusion: 

Bang for the buck-on topic? I&#039;d want to have a 9mm and a .357-ammo versatility and I&#039;m confident I can use either. Really though, I&#039;d pick up as many pistols (and holsters) as I could find. Btw... no one has even once mentioned mag drop pouches that I&#039;ve noticed-seems like a good accessory for all the reloaders (brass) and magazine-using types.

Other useful Z-day measures: greaves, a good shield (plywood is fine), good leather boots, hand to hand weapon (even as an elite martial artist if I&#039;m having to throw or push kick this ZMFer to the ground I&#039;m closer than I ought to be-at least one teammate should have a &#039;real&#039; katana, another a sword/shield combo for guarding the stairs), climbing and rappelling gear (including rope).

If you have the luxury to be worrying about what pistol you&#039;re going to carry you should first go over all the other preparations &quot;one more time&quot;. Please bring whatever you like-I&#039;ll take whatever spare you can spare...  

Okay.. that&#039;s coming out pretty haphazardly, but I&#039;ll leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t feel that I fit the profile of most posters here. Here&#8217;s my two cents&#8230; my tactical background is as a martial artist for eighteen years, and as a hunter for ten, and as a rock climber for two. Here are some random strategic zombie-related thoughts (while still staying in the general same book as the thread topic):</p>
<p>Capacity, accuracy, practical stopping power, ease of use and maintenance, universality, and convenience are all pluses.</p>
<p>Many of the good (in my opinion after having read way too many forums-and watching tactical videos) ones have been listed: USP, Sig226, 1911 (although it has a lot of haters out there), 92FS, .357&#8230; all powerful, accurate, and easy to feed. Maybe a nice .22 for training or light-duty use&#8230; am I missing anything important? The only pistol I have fired is an old .22 revolver half a dozen times and a glock 9mm once. I&#8217;d drop the .22 it in a heartbeat for any of the others, but until I see something better it&#8217;s my best friend (after my BSA, double-barrel (sawing it into a near-pistol on Z-Day), and wakizashi. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent infinitely more time firing rifles and shotguns than pistols (remington speedmaster .22 (8&#215;32) , BSA Monarch 30.06 (w/Bushnell), Win 1897 12ga, Colombian ver. of k98 30.06, and Beretta side by side 20ga. A pistol would just be another tool-and likely a little-used one. I&#8217;d trade some pistols for a high-end wakizashi or even really good-quality hunting knife. Generally, we want distance, and distance means rifles. Vs. Z&#8217;s I&#8217;d take shotgun&gt;pistol close range&#8230; conclusion: </p>
<p>Bang for the buck-on topic? I&#8217;d want to have a 9mm and a .357-ammo versatility and I&#8217;m confident I can use either. Really though, I&#8217;d pick up as many pistols (and holsters) as I could find. Btw&#8230; no one has even once mentioned mag drop pouches that I&#8217;ve noticed-seems like a good accessory for all the reloaders (brass) and magazine-using types.</p>
<p>Other useful Z-day measures: greaves, a good shield (plywood is fine), good leather boots, hand to hand weapon (even as an elite martial artist if I&#8217;m having to throw or push kick this ZMFer to the ground I&#8217;m closer than I ought to be-at least one teammate should have a &#8216;real&#8217; katana, another a sword/shield combo for guarding the stairs), climbing and rappelling gear (including rope).</p>
<p>If you have the luxury to be worrying about what pistol you&#8217;re going to carry you should first go over all the other preparations &#8220;one more time&#8221;. Please bring whatever you like-I&#8217;ll take whatever spare you can spare&#8230;  </p>
<p>Okay.. that&#8217;s coming out pretty haphazardly, but I&#8217;ll leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Zombilicous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zombilicous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for finding good steel weaponry, go to where they originally were made.  Toledo in Spain and Kyoto in Japan are two big ones i know of, but i am sure there are great forgeries around europe and the east.  I would not go with a scimitar simply because most were made of iron back in their hay day, and obviously the demand for major improvements have not been as on par as the development of Spanish steel, that which ruled the oceans at one point in time.
Overall for weapons, I would probably prefer the beretta firestorm, as while it&#039;s a rifle it does accept clips and as with many old west guns, is chambered to use the same ammunition as your sidearm. I would prefer a .45 for stopping power but given that quantity might weigh in over quality, you may prefer going with the slightly smaller .40 or even 9mm for increased ammo capacity.  I wouldn&#039;t go with a smaller cartridge.  
As far as actually carrying a sword, i wouldn&#039;t.  maybe a machete for it&#039;s pure hacking power and multifunctionality, but def not something as heavy as an axe or similar bladed weapon.  And also, you&#039;re going to get really tired regardless of what bladed weapon you use..that&#039;s why the old armies worked in formations and had shields out of necessity, not just because it was a splendid idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for finding good steel weaponry, go to where they originally were made.  Toledo in Spain and Kyoto in Japan are two big ones i know of, but i am sure there are great forgeries around europe and the east.  I would not go with a scimitar simply because most were made of iron back in their hay day, and obviously the demand for major improvements have not been as on par as the development of Spanish steel, that which ruled the oceans at one point in time.<br />
Overall for weapons, I would probably prefer the beretta firestorm, as while it&#8217;s a rifle it does accept clips and as with many old west guns, is chambered to use the same ammunition as your sidearm. I would prefer a .45 for stopping power but given that quantity might weigh in over quality, you may prefer going with the slightly smaller .40 or even 9mm for increased ammo capacity.  I wouldn&#8217;t go with a smaller cartridge.<br />
As far as actually carrying a sword, i wouldn&#8217;t.  maybe a machete for it&#8217;s pure hacking power and multifunctionality, but def not something as heavy as an axe or similar bladed weapon.  And also, you&#8217;re going to get really tired regardless of what bladed weapon you use..that&#8217;s why the old armies worked in formations and had shields out of necessity, not just because it was a splendid idea.</p>
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		<title>By: taekwondoeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>taekwondoeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 00:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously though, think about revovlvers. I&#039;ll admit, single actions suck, and double actions are slower to reload than semi-autos. But auto-loaders Jam up very easily, I have a .45 and i only shot maybe 200 rounds out of it and it jamed up half the time, as what happens with most auto-loaders. DA revolvers on the other hand never Jam up and if zombies are comin for u, u want something u can rely on. although most revolvers only carry six rounds they are so easy to reload. wat will happen if u run out of mags for ur auto-loader? it is gonna be a bitch to push those rounds into a clip, especially if ur surrounded by zombies who are eating u. whereas all u have to do with the revolver is push the cylinder out, empty the bullets and put new ones in,it only takes about 10-20 seconds and and less if u have a speed loader. but if ur tryin to put new rounds in a clip, it takes a few minutes and by then ur already digesting. Im not sayin that auto-loaders are bad but in my opinion a DA revolver would be better in the long run, in dependibility and reloading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously though, think about revovlvers. I&#8217;ll admit, single actions suck, and double actions are slower to reload than semi-autos. But auto-loaders Jam up very easily, I have a .45 and i only shot maybe 200 rounds out of it and it jamed up half the time, as what happens with most auto-loaders. DA revolvers on the other hand never Jam up and if zombies are comin for u, u want something u can rely on. although most revolvers only carry six rounds they are so easy to reload. wat will happen if u run out of mags for ur auto-loader? it is gonna be a bitch to push those rounds into a clip, especially if ur surrounded by zombies who are eating u. whereas all u have to do with the revolver is push the cylinder out, empty the bullets and put new ones in,it only takes about 10-20 seconds and and less if u have a speed loader. but if ur tryin to put new rounds in a clip, it takes a few minutes and by then ur already digesting. Im not sayin that auto-loaders are bad but in my opinion a DA revolver would be better in the long run, in dependibility and reloading.</p>
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