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		<title>By: Ronin666</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronin666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll go with any of the 500 to 600cc off road bikes, preferably the &quot;Paris to Dakar&quot; type with the huge fuel tanks. My Yamaha XTZ660 got over 400klm to a tank full,with a top box and panniers it could carry a HEAP of stuff, with the stock exhaust it was fairly quiet. 
The only thing a bike doesn&#039;t provide is somewhere safe-ish to sleep at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go with any of the 500 to 600cc off road bikes, preferably the &#8220;Paris to Dakar&#8221; type with the huge fuel tanks. My Yamaha XTZ660 got over 400klm to a tank full,with a top box and panniers it could carry a HEAP of stuff, with the stock exhaust it was fairly quiet.<br />
The only thing a bike doesn&#8217;t provide is somewhere safe-ish to sleep at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Hayley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i prefree (or however u spell it) 
a custom bus equip for the unthinkable 
im un the process of designing one myself 
not building yet designing yes 
where there is easy acess to the gas tank without getting 
out of the car and a cage around the vehicle for 
breakdowns im 14 i need some type of closer 
im the type of person who freaks ver everything 
im 14 and a nerves wreck about everything and it sucks 
yea i need therapy i might even need to be in a mental hospital 
but for now this is how i am believeing this crap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i prefree (or however u spell it)<br />
a custom bus equip for the unthinkable<br />
im un the process of designing one myself<br />
not building yet designing yes<br />
where there is easy acess to the gas tank without getting<br />
out of the car and a cage around the vehicle for<br />
breakdowns im 14 i need some type of closer<br />
im the type of person who freaks ver everything<br />
im 14 and a nerves wreck about everything and it sucks<br />
yea i need therapy i might even need to be in a mental hospital<br />
but for now this is how i am believeing this crap!</p>
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		<title>By: FreddeX</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreddeX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now while i agree with some of the points i do think i will use a vechicle, why? Simple, if you got a zombie horde on your back (either rage zombies (which i think is more likely) or undead) then how long do you think you can RUN from them? The regular people like you and me can´t run for hours, heck most of us can´t even run for thirty minutes or even ten. And after you are out of breath then what? 

You are tired so you can forget about close combat, addrenaline is pumping throught your veins so your aim is shit and you can´t escape them. Now if you are driving a car or riding a bike then you don´t got that problem. Even if you are just going 30 km/h you still outrun them since they got human limitations when it comes to speed so there is no need to go 200 km/h like some guys think they need to.

Sure the fuel would run out after a while but if you raid a couple of gas stations or take some from abandoned vechiles then you should make it for a couple of days or maybe even weeks (depending on what type of car you got, SUVs are not recomended) and that should be enouch to get to a human stronghold. See ya on the road lads :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now while i agree with some of the points i do think i will use a vechicle, why? Simple, if you got a zombie horde on your back (either rage zombies (which i think is more likely) or undead) then how long do you think you can RUN from them? The regular people like you and me can´t run for hours, heck most of us can´t even run for thirty minutes or even ten. And after you are out of breath then what? </p>
<p>You are tired so you can forget about close combat, addrenaline is pumping throught your veins so your aim is shit and you can´t escape them. Now if you are driving a car or riding a bike then you don´t got that problem. Even if you are just going 30 km/h you still outrun them since they got human limitations when it comes to speed so there is no need to go 200 km/h like some guys think they need to.</p>
<p>Sure the fuel would run out after a while but if you raid a couple of gas stations or take some from abandoned vechiles then you should make it for a couple of days or maybe even weeks (depending on what type of car you got, SUVs are not recomended) and that should be enouch to get to a human stronghold. See ya on the road lads :D</p>
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		<title>By: 2ID</title>
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		<dc:creator>2ID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>removible skid plate, one that can be broken down into different pieces and placed on out side of vehicle(like bumper). just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>removible skid plate, one that can be broken down into different pieces and placed on out side of vehicle(like bumper). just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharpshooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharpshooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got a &quot;new truck&quot; (bought it at a used car lot for work) its a ford F150 longbed. so i think im gunna be alright if i have to go offroading. just got new tires for it along with Rhino Lining for the back. So any thoughts of giving it more protection? Nothing obvious though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a &#8220;new truck&#8221; (bought it at a used car lot for work) its a ford F150 longbed. so i think im gunna be alright if i have to go offroading. just got new tires for it along with Rhino Lining for the back. So any thoughts of giving it more protection? Nothing obvious though.</p>
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		<title>By: BIGBULLDOG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIGBULLDOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that stealth is key, but for me to leave a semi-rural area to a complete rural area(my hometown which is 3 hrs. away) wouldn&#039;t be a big deal. I have already mapped out other possible routes to take not to mention if need be I know many places i could go off-road if need be. Luckily I also have mechanical knowledge and know plenty about firearms and other weapons. Yes I may be an &quot;extreme redneck&quot; but all my vehicles are 4x4 and i make sure they&#039;re equipped for whatever i may have to deal with on a shtf scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that stealth is key, but for me to leave a semi-rural area to a complete rural area(my hometown which is 3 hrs. away) wouldn&#8217;t be a big deal. I have already mapped out other possible routes to take not to mention if need be I know many places i could go off-road if need be. Luckily I also have mechanical knowledge and know plenty about firearms and other weapons. Yes I may be an &#8220;extreme redneck&#8221; but all my vehicles are 4&#215;4 and i make sure they&#8217;re equipped for whatever i may have to deal with on a shtf scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally on the ATVs, dirt bikes, and regular bikes. However, if long term travel is needed, I believe the best vehicle would be a regular 
diesel truck (Dodge Ram 2500, Ford F250 etc.) The reasons?
1.) They are built to go off road if a road way is blocked, destroyed, or not available.
2.) They can be modified with brush guards, or bull bars for ramming  through gates, fences etc. or zombies. 
(Ex. http://www.offroadltd.com/images/2007-Dodge-Ram-2.jpg )
3.) They can transport many people safely (About 10-13 max)
4.) This is the big one... fuel. Now your probably thinking, diesel trucks are not that great on fuel buddy... and your right, they&#039;re not. But, the thing about diesel engines is that they can run off of cooking oil. I know it sounds far-fetched but it is 100% true. If used cooking oil is filtered using filter paper or anything else, you can pour it into the engine and it will run. Also, many people will not use their diesel trucks for the reason of them not being fuel efficient, leaving more diesel fuel at the pumps. To add to that, while gas stations are numbered, you won&#039;t have a problem finding a McDonalds (at least in the U.S.) and getting the used cooking oil from there.

Questions? Comments? Lemme hear it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally on the ATVs, dirt bikes, and regular bikes. However, if long term travel is needed, I believe the best vehicle would be a regular<br />
diesel truck (Dodge Ram 2500, Ford F250 etc.) The reasons?<br />
1.) They are built to go off road if a road way is blocked, destroyed, or not available.<br />
2.) They can be modified with brush guards, or bull bars for ramming  through gates, fences etc. or zombies.<br />
(Ex. <a href="http://www.offroadltd.com/images/2007-Dodge-Ram-2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.offroadltd.com/images/2007-Dodge-Ram-2.jpg</a> )<br />
3.) They can transport many people safely (About 10-13 max)<br />
4.) This is the big one&#8230; fuel. Now your probably thinking, diesel trucks are not that great on fuel buddy&#8230; and your right, they&#8217;re not. But, the thing about diesel engines is that they can run off of cooking oil. I know it sounds far-fetched but it is 100% true. If used cooking oil is filtered using filter paper or anything else, you can pour it into the engine and it will run. Also, many people will not use their diesel trucks for the reason of them not being fuel efficient, leaving more diesel fuel at the pumps. To add to that, while gas stations are numbered, you won&#8217;t have a problem finding a McDonalds (at least in the U.S.) and getting the used cooking oil from there.</p>
<p>Questions? Comments? Lemme hear it</p>
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		<title>By: 2ID</title>
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		<dc:creator>2ID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATV... now theres an idea. a hunting ATV like the one pictured here: &quot;http://www.montanajacks.com/html/themes/theme_images/feature_pic_orange.jpg&quot; i would think would be ideal (if it dosent work look up ATV hunting on google pics), as you can see from the pictures it has an ample amout of room for supplys: guns, ammo, extra fuel* and food and water... heck you could use this vehicle on the defence and offense, but lets just look at the five rule parameter for this vehicle.
#1 The defensiveness of this vehicle is wishy washy, phisical protection from the undead is almost none, but the speed and mobility of it makes it better than on foot (i can make it up that hill before you can, that type of mobility) but should be only used for short distances of 10 to 20 miles.
#2 Gas, you can easly store more fuel on it, has a good distance befor it runs out, and as stated befor in this forum, you can alway siphon gas if your running low.
#3 yes the phisical protection of an ATV is extreamly low, but if you use the mobility of this vehicle to your advantage you can easly take on many many zed heads, just drive(or ride i guess) to where ever they maybe, and just start taking pot shots at them(from your sitting comfy postion) then when they start to get too close, just drive away about 100 meters and start again. but always be mindfull of your blind spots and it would work best in pairs.
#4 now here is where you say that on average (99%) you wont find a ATV with all the equipment that im sugesting, if you found one out on the lot or in someones garage. but that dosent even have to stop you from fully decking out yours, you know alot of what you need to survive z-day is hunting gear... in fact that would be exactly the type of job this baby was born for.
#5 The ATV has almost the same mobility as the motorcycle, just not so good with the tight spaces (between cars) but really would you be using roads any ways? i mean... your in an ATV... sound it out... (make shure you have wire and or bolt cutters for those pesky fences)

if any one has any suggestions or criticism, id love to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATV&#8230; now theres an idea. a hunting ATV like the one pictured here: &#8220;http://www.montanajacks.com/html/themes/theme_images/feature_pic_orange.jpg&#8221; i would think would be ideal (if it dosent work look up ATV hunting on google pics), as you can see from the pictures it has an ample amout of room for supplys: guns, ammo, extra fuel* and food and water&#8230; heck you could use this vehicle on the defence and offense, but lets just look at the five rule parameter for this vehicle.<br />
#1 The defensiveness of this vehicle is wishy washy, phisical protection from the undead is almost none, but the speed and mobility of it makes it better than on foot (i can make it up that hill before you can, that type of mobility) but should be only used for short distances of 10 to 20 miles.<br />
#2 Gas, you can easly store more fuel on it, has a good distance befor it runs out, and as stated befor in this forum, you can alway siphon gas if your running low.<br />
#3 yes the phisical protection of an ATV is extreamly low, but if you use the mobility of this vehicle to your advantage you can easly take on many many zed heads, just drive(or ride i guess) to where ever they maybe, and just start taking pot shots at them(from your sitting comfy postion) then when they start to get too close, just drive away about 100 meters and start again. but always be mindfull of your blind spots and it would work best in pairs.<br />
#4 now here is where you say that on average (99%) you wont find a ATV with all the equipment that im sugesting, if you found one out on the lot or in someones garage. but that dosent even have to stop you from fully decking out yours, you know alot of what you need to survive z-day is hunting gear&#8230; in fact that would be exactly the type of job this baby was born for.<br />
#5 The ATV has almost the same mobility as the motorcycle, just not so good with the tight spaces (between cars) but really would you be using roads any ways? i mean&#8230; your in an ATV&#8230; sound it out&#8230; (make shure you have wire and or bolt cutters for those pesky fences)</p>
<p>if any one has any suggestions or criticism, id love to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharpshooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharpshooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm the best thing would be to get a school bus... that way if you had to you could hook up the sliding doors to a tank of compressed air and take of the rubber seals and but like sharp scraps of metal on it so if a zombie tried to hitch a ride with you you could just slam that door shut</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm the best thing would be to get a school bus&#8230; that way if you had to you could hook up the sliding doors to a tank of compressed air and take of the rubber seals and but like sharp scraps of metal on it so if a zombie tried to hitch a ride with you you could just slam that door shut</p>
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		<title>By: 68A Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>68A Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Gonzo on the dump truck. And as for Fuel, given time and a simple google search you could make it steam powered (http://gas2.org/2008/05/13/run-your-car-on-wood-no-joke/) gonzo knows more then i do about automotive engineering so he will be able to tell if this is practical.

Rain- good luck getting one of those APC/IFV&#039;s . 
 they would be mostly mobilized, your not stealing a Striker from the Mechanized infantry. Oh and if you think your stealing one out of Garrison your sadly mistaken, you wouldn&#039;t even make it through the gate of the motorpool before you caught a 5.56.

Blimps? Hold on let me go get my Goodyear Hindenburg out of the Garage, where do you plan on getting a blimp.

I like the Bike or dirt bike as well hell even an ATV wouldn&#039;t be bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Gonzo on the dump truck. And as for Fuel, given time and a simple google search you could make it steam powered (<a href="http://gas2.org/2008/05/13/run-your-car-on-wood-no-joke/" rel="nofollow">http://gas2.org/2008/05/13/run-your-car-on-wood-no-joke/</a>) gonzo knows more then i do about automotive engineering so he will be able to tell if this is practical.</p>
<p>Rain- good luck getting one of those APC/IFV&#8217;s .<br />
 they would be mostly mobilized, your not stealing a Striker from the Mechanized infantry. Oh and if you think your stealing one out of Garrison your sadly mistaken, you wouldn&#8217;t even make it through the gate of the motorpool before you caught a 5.56.</p>
<p>Blimps? Hold on let me go get my Goodyear Hindenburg out of the Garage, where do you plan on getting a blimp.</p>
<p>I like the Bike or dirt bike as well hell even an ATV wouldn&#8217;t be bad.</p>
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