ZAC Selects Glock
ZAC has selected Glock as the official handgun for zombie defense. Due the proven performance record, reliability, and availability, we feel confident that the Glock will help you dispatch of unwanted ghouls and further your changes of survival during the times of darkness.
Comments (31)
Death or Glory on 24 Jun 2008 at 11:48 pm #
The Glock is not a bad pistol. Springfield XD 9mm is my handgun of choice. Trouble is, a .22 pistol is probably the best choice for zombie eradication, for cost, weight, availability, etc. I think Glock makes a .22 barrel conversion kit, but Springfield does not. So, keep that in mind.
Dragonfly on 25 Jun 2008 at 12:48 am #
The glock is a very decent pistol but the smith and wesson SW99 is also an extremely reliable choice. It exceeds in the firing overload tests in which they put a few thousand rounds through them without a stoppage. Excellent pistol. It is also a polymer frame which increases durability and cuts down on weight.
HOWEVER, if the attack were to happen you also have to consider replacement parts. A common gun that most people own is best as you can swap out barrels or firing pins as needed. Replacement or extra mags are also an option. In that regard the glock is an excellent choice.
I would steer clear of .22 caliber rounds. Although they do have a higher magazing capacity and the ammo is cheaper it is not as reliable. Shooting a Zed in the head with a .22 is not going to drop it for sure. No doubt it would 8 or 9 times out of ten, I would rather go with a 9mm, .40 or .45 which I KNOW is going to drop whatever it hits in the head.
Steve on 25 Jun 2008 at 12:35 pm #
I don’t think .22 rounds are always a bad choice as a sidearm or as a lighter choice of firearm.
The simple fact is that a .22 system - the gun, ammunition and assorted accessories can naturally weigh less than more solidly constructed (to deal with the greater forces) .45 or higher weapons and when moving as quickly as possible across potentially rough terrain this is worth its (lower) weight in gold. You don’t necessarily need to vaporise skulls, you just need to damage the brain enough to stop the zombie. Also, the larger clip sizes mean that you can shoot more before needing to stop and that’s never a bad thing.
There’s a lot to said for light weight equipment while it’s strapped to your back and you’re fleeing for your life.
sean on 25 Jun 2008 at 1:09 pm #
living in canada with the handgun ban we have on the glock is pretty much the only choice for a handgun because it’s standard issue for the rcmp,now anyways the used to have 1911’s back in the day but for 9mm id prefer a glock type 17 or something similar to a beretta 92fs but as i stated before unless you are a drug dealer living in toronto you are very limited by choice unless your uncle has dual citizenship and collects firearms.but for practicallity i’d say most canadians would go down to thier local police station and grab a good old glock.
Dragonfly on 25 Jun 2008 at 6:58 pm #
Actually we don’t have a handgun ban in Canada, it is quite easy to legally purchase a handgun provided you don’t have an extensive criminal record and are a member of a gun club. I have purchased two (a smith and wesson .357 and a springfield 1911 .45) and I didn’t run into problems.
Also, the RCMP doesn’t use a glock. They use a smith and wesson model 5246 which in Canada (due to barrel length and magazine capacity) are prohibited….. so unless you can scam one from an officer you won’t get your hands on one of those. It also doesn’t help that S&W discontinued that model.
The police across Canada use quite an array of different firearms…. S&W, Glock, Berretta, Sig and Walther.
As for the average Canadian….. I doubt they would run down to their police station to grab a pistol. Canada is a mostly rural country and I can state pretty confidently that most rural household have a rifle, shotgun or both in them. The average person would be much better suited to a rifle. Accuracy is increased and that is good for someone not profficient in firearms. The average joe blow is not going to be able to grab a handgun and suddenly become a crack shot. Head shots can be difficult to pull off at distances greater then 15 metres and while under stress.
Hope that helps
sean on 26 Jun 2008 at 1:34 pm #
thank you very much i was not aware of this
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 27 Jun 2008 at 1:37 pm #
The .22 isn’t a bad round but I know of more than a few incidents where people were shot in the head and the round did not penetrate. This includes an old mob attempt on a man who was working with the FBI they walked up behind him put the muzzle to the back of his head and pulled the trigger five, count em, five times. The man turned around and preceded to beat the living snot out the guy with the gun and his buddy.
And before I get labeled a .22 hater, I own a number of .22s, a Ruger single six, 10/22, Browning camper, and a few more. They are great shooters but they lack the knockdown at range. And ammo is getting more and more unreliable as of late. The last brink of Rem. Thunderbolts weren’t worth a good damn.
On another note, I don’t believe you can reload .22 LRs at all. So for those in the long run a larger caliber might be better, since reloading will be very important if they wish to use firearms for more than just the first part of the war. Plus down here in the USA the military carries 9mm and that make the ability to obtain the round quite easy.
All that said, I won’t mind carrying a .22 pistol or rifle since the report is less and popping a squirrel might make a nice meal on the move. Always look for multiple uses.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys - The Gauntlet
Platinum on 27 Jun 2008 at 3:34 pm #
I hate the Glock. Hate it. Hate it. Hate…..well, you get the picture.
From looks to feel, to shooting it, the Glocks never made a favorable impression on me. But that’s just me. I have my favorites, you’re welcome to yours.
All that being said, Glocks are not a bad weapon. I’d certainly take one (or more) with me in a variety of situations (police station, etc..). Just not my first choice.
Beats a knife ;)
Photon Guy on 29 Jun 2008 at 12:37 pm #
Hey, I was just passing through and reading the posts and I had to say a word or two.
I’ve seen the zombies in action and let me tell you, if you don’t know they’re coming then you’re pretty much screwed. You really have to have your senses tuned if you’re going to escape from an orchestrated attack.
Remember, the zombies love body armor. If you’re in a close in situation then you’re first goal is to get the F out! The .223 at close range, which may not stop them, will certainly buy you time to move the fight into the open of the outdoors. If you can throw a lot of these .223s you might win over the moment long enough to get out. Also, it’s a good idea to create some sort of defense from FlashBangs. Zombies are generally pussies and would much rather throw these nasty items your way.
Once outside that same load works great for the well placed shot and you might be able to pin them down long enough to move to the next phase which is escape.
Anonymous on 02 Jul 2008 at 1:34 pm #
The average Glock is not a bad firearm by any means but nor is it a very good one. It is as basic as basic gets, totally average in almost all respects. There are far better handling pistols out there but some of the points made to classify it as ZAC’s official gun are right. It is very widely available (every gun store I go into has one and cops love them) and if you get an earlier produced one it is pretty reliable. Another plus is it comes in a wide range of caliburs. But one reason I wouldn’t say take a Glock if you have other choices is because the ever so horrible “Glock explosion” that has been known to occur from more recently produced Glocks and ecspecially when using hot, or heavily powdered, rounds. There have been instances where the gun itself has actually exploded, sometimes mangeling the operator’s hands. No need for me to say that isn’t something you want to happen.
Toebo23 on 03 Jul 2008 at 11:15 am #
a 22 might do the job but we know a glock would do the trick plus it has the big bang that drives up a man ego BANG BANG ur dead.
Avakar on 04 Jul 2008 at 1:28 pm #
I would have to go with a 1911 .45. I’ve shot a .22 and I find it doesn’t have the dependable force that the .45 has. I recently had the opportunity while visiting my family to go shooting with my father, he has a Taurus 1911 and of all the hand guns he has I fell in love with that one, it had a good feel and the force that could count on to place a clean whole in a Zed’s head.
Platinum on 07 Jul 2008 at 5:44 am #
Welcome to the darkside, Avakar. 8)
Lipton on 09 Jul 2008 at 5:20 pm #
.22 ??
Zombies don’t feel pain, and aren’t their Brains already damaged?
I guess while we’re picking weapons and theory crafting, what kind of Zombies are you guys prepping for?
Resident Evil zombies? Night of the living dead sux ass zombies? Or the Zombies on crack from 24 days later?
Instead of a Glock, I think a Nice dependable Mechette or Khurki
Avery Hayes on 11 Jul 2008 at 3:06 pm #
Lipton: As far as I can tell, we’re talking about Zombie Survival Guide zombies. But I’m new to the site (like… 5 minutes? maybe?) so I don’t know for sure.
thatguy on 15 Jul 2008 at 8:48 am #
i would go with the HK or the SIG but that is my choice a glock would not be bad in a
pinch but i do like the knock down power of a 45 but for anything i would stick to my
AR 15 with a surpresor that woul be my kit or atleast an mp5 9mm round shot like a rifle
but just if not better for close CQB then a pistal but dont knock me i will always carry my
Sig 45 SD and and good 6″ knife becasue you never know
÷×Last×Idiot×Alive÷ on 21 Jul 2008 at 2:59 pm #
Yeh the glock is good defence, is not to expencive, you can find it easy in any arms store.
But if you want some action..go crazy and buy an desert eagle to blow up those bastards heads
instruisto on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:55 pm #
Well, if you must use a firearm instead of the tried and true mace or flail, I suppose a Glock is a decent sidearm. However, guns don’t stop zombies, bullets do. Use blessed sage oil on your hollow points to increase the spiritual effectiveness of your physical weapon. Fighting the undead is very much an exercise in Cartesian/Platonic dualism on a philosophical level. Don’t be fooled by all this talk or viruses — they are merely opportunists taking over a decaying body reanimated by a dark spirit. The virus is a symptom, not a cause. The neglect of holy oil, water, silver, and oak by this generation of undead hunter is most disturbing.
3ID on 23 Jul 2008 at 3:07 pm #
wow instruisto this is not DD buddy this Zombies man this generation
has those things oil/naplam water good old Dasanie Silver/my .357 and oak/Kevlar so dont say the new generation of undead hunter is disturbing it just has evolved
Dr. Pus on 24 Jul 2008 at 12:50 pm #
Beretta 92FS with 30 round banana clips. This 9mm is comfortable in my hand, the tritium sites work well at night and with the pre-Brady clips I’m all set.
I do understand the use of a .22 but I’ve also read a lot about the “magic bullet” where a .22 will stike the head, curve around the skull under the scalp and come out the other side. A 9mm WON’T do that.
I also like my Springfield 1911-A. The .45 kicks nice and does make a nice splatter.
Leper on 25 Jul 2008 at 12:31 pm #
I would like to point out that while many models produced by Glock are indeed reliable, sturdy and simply made (thus simply maintained) there is an entire line of Glock pistols which should be avoided at all costs.
.40 caliber Glock models have a shortened loading chute, which is nice for preventing failure-to-feed jams, but leaves a section of the case unsupported during firing. In many cases this is not an issue–using brand new ammunition conveniently bought from your local dealer.
However, in an situation where shells are having to be reloaded (such as one where you must load or re-load your own ammo due to the local sports shop not being exactly open for business anymore) this can lead to catastrophic failure. What does ‘catastrophic’ mean in this case? An absolutely destroyed firearm that will never be suitable for use again. If you’re lucky, that’s where the list ends. Permanent damage from explodey gun bits can cripple your hand, blind you, or cause other injuries or death.
Personally I’ve always been a fan of IMI’s line of weapons. The same company that brought the oft-famed Desert Eagle, although I personally prefer something a lot less flashy or likely to make your hand feel like you’ve been running a jackhammer all day. They’re available in the US through Magnum Research, and I’ve always found them to be accurate, reliable, and low maintenance. Most of them were designed to work under desert conditions, anyhow.
Beyond that, one might wish to look into the “Witness” made in Italy. They’re low cost and still well made–additionally you can purchase barrels/slides/clips of every caliber from .22 to .45 making it a decent fall back weapon if you’re stuck scrounging for ammo and don’t want to carry 5 or more guns to be able to use whatever you come across.
sharpie on 05 Aug 2008 at 7:50 pm #
No…. Thats all I have to say. I’ll take just about any other brand over that piece of junk. I’d rather not have a gun that is more of a danger to me than the zombies. Glocks have a tendency to blow up in you’re hands because of an engineering f up that leaves a price of the case outside the chamber when it fires. (If you don’t beliave me look it up.) Besides is inaccurate has hell and far to light to pistole whip someone. I’d say a 1911 would be the best choice. It’s battle proven, reliable, redly available ammo same as the glock, and a .45 has more punch than a 9mm. More of a chance that a glancing blow will still do the trick. The only down side is a smaller magazine capacity and a little harder to field strip.
instruisto on 10 Aug 2008 at 3:09 am #
Watching RESIDENT EVIL: EXTINCTION I can see where you boys (and girls? probably not) get some of your silly ideas. Edged weapons and bullets are fine if you don’t mind being soaked in the blood of the undead when fighting at close range (and you WILL eventually be fighting at close range).
3ID, the only DD I know of has nothing to do with zombies. If you are referring to D&D I don’t play. I never play. However, it is possible that the authors have read in translation references to ancient texts that gave them the right idea.
If you can’t get a mace or flail an aluminum baseball bat is the next best alternative that is commonly available. Get it blessed. Consider a kid-sized bat as a left handed weapon if you can’t wield two full sized bats at the same time. Hit points covered by clothing to minimize splatter in more advanced cases. Knees are great targets.
Read a book; movies are entertaining but do little to prepare you for the real world of fighting the undead.
Chris on 14 Aug 2008 at 11:49 am #
@ instruisto: Why dont you lay off the weird spiritualistic front and quit talking about the “undead”. The kind of zombies we’re talking about here are the biologically infected/enhanced ones that are more likely to show up. Nobody is “summoning” zombies using ancient black magic, maybe you’re the one who needs to stop watching movies (or reading silly fantasy books).
PS - Who the hell has a mace or a flail in their house?
PPS - Who the hell is going to get their aluminum baseball bat blessed? Maybe my glock, but not a bat.
ZombieCrisis44 on 14 Aug 2008 at 12:36 pm #
For Zombie-stopping effectiveness, I think the dependability and ruggedness of the Sig
228 9mm would be my choice. You can cap zombies all day long with 9mm if you are a
good shot. Recoil wouldn’t be a problem. You can even loot ammo off of other dead
civilians or cops with their brains eaten out, as 9mm is a popular caliber and likely to be
readily available. It’s light, accurate and you can shoot 10,000 rounds out of the damn
thing without a single jam.
I would definitely take the Glock over a Saturday Night Special, but I agree with Platinum
in that the feel and the aimability is just kind of awkward. I think it has something to do
with the angle of the grip in relation to the slide. Still could take out plenty of brain-eaters
though.
3ID on 14 Aug 2008 at 7:53 pm #
it is really the shooter who pick the gun it is all in the feel of weapon some like the glock others the SIG and yet others the H&K its all the matter of feel i think the round comes later but the 9mm is a very great round i love it and it it is very easy to find since the US Military use the 9mm in their standard service pistol so it would be a great idiea to find a good feeling hand gun in 9mm but if you dont feel like spending a lot then glock is a great gun for the price so is the Springfield XD about the same price
samurai on 15 Aug 2008 at 1:51 pm #
“an aluminum baseball bat is the next best alternative that is commonly available.”
A bat is a fair to poor choice. It’s good for a few hundred swings before it starts to bend. Go with the crowbar. Easily as common, and as well it has a pointy side. So if you got a lone zombie down, you can shove the pointy end through the eye, and into the brain behind. It’s a sturdy bashing weapon, and also very handy in helping you escape (which is option number 1 always) through locked doors or barricaded entrances.
Personally I’d avoid firing off a gun at all costs, because you’re just going to attract more zombies in the area, who will be drawn to the sound. Guns are a last resort. Run first.
Michael Leza on 15 Aug 2008 at 4:38 pm #
I love my glock, but my zombie fighting weapon of choice is either a .22 or 9mm carbine from Calico. Good rate of fire, large capacity magazines, accurate at zombie fighting range, easy to field strip, easy to reload magazines quickly, good skull penetration. And even if your .22 doesn’t punch through on the first shot, you have 99 more tried before you have to resort to clubbing a zombie to death.
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 26 Aug 2008 at 10:42 pm #
Michael Leza I hate to say this but the Calico isn’t that great of a weapon, at least that’s what my sources have to say about the thing, I’ve never had the chance to shoot one so I can’t say. Another reason I not fond of it for zombies is it’s an exotic, meaning its going to be a nightmare to find parts and mags for it. If you what to use it fine, but you might want to reconsider. A thought.
One another note , yes some of the original glock 22s, the .40s&w cal ones, did have a rather unnerving tendency to go boom in your hand, hell my neighbor had one do it to him. Ever since he won’t shoot a glock of fed hydro-shocks. The newer have had the problem worked out, I believe, though if I have to use a 40 its going to be my h&k 40 USP expert. A little on the large side but accurate. But I agree with 3ID whatever fits you, that said a little standardization helps. 9mm, 45, 22lr, and .40 in pistols, with .38 and .357 in the very rear since there are going to be some who won’t give up their wheel guns, which is fine I guess they then to be just a tad more accurate come out stock than more autos, the glock included. My dad’s .357 can damn near put the six rounds on top of each other at twenty five meters standing, my stock glock 17 has about a three inch group.
On a last note, there is suppose to be a new carbine coming out from mircotech, it will be chambered in 9mm, .40s&w, .45, and 10mm. the design will be based on the steyer AUG formate. The best part, it takes glock mags, which means you primary weapon can use the mags for your handgun, if you so chose to carry a glock.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys - The Gauntlet
Dreamornaut on 18 Oct 2008 at 4:35 pm #
Well, I’m leaning towards a glock 19 at the moment, but this is only as a back-up, and I wouldn’t mind finding something else that’s reliable and easily maintenance. In the long run I’d want something common that if pinch comes to shove can be fixed with fabricated parts given the right machinery and materials. Of course I realize that that’s a pipe dream, but one can dream.
My concern at the moment is an M1 carbine or a Bushmaster M4. Although the Bushmaster has more power and range, the sheer simplicity, lightness, ease of use and low maintenance makes the carbine a tempting choice for the long haul. Though I would have to admit, if I have an M1, I want someone around that has a rifle with good power and range.
Decisions, decisions…
68A Soldier on 01 Jan 2009 at 6:51 pm #
I don’t know where this love of Glocks came from? I have fired many handguns including Glocks and IMO there are better options out there. to me glocks are unbalanced. H&K, SIG, and Kimber are far better handguns.
Dreamornaut- Please never use the words “low maintenance” with anything based on the Eugene Stoner’s Design. Ask anyone who has had to field one, the elements ream havoc on the internals. (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/12/army_carbine_dusttest_071217/) look for something with a piston blow back instead of a direct gas blow back. (if your a big baller HK416 or Barret m468)