Using Sense of Smell Against the Undead to Save the Living

Recently I have been flipping through my copy of “The Walking Dead” and came across an interesting point which would be appropriate for debate and discussion here. It gets at the very heart of the undead and their motivations. Can zombies be fooled by using their sense of smell against them?
In “The Walking Dead”, two survivors are able to effectively move through an area occupied with zombies by masking their scent with that of another zombie. They cut the hand off a zombie and smear it on their clothing, etc. They are able to walk freely around zombies who cannot detect their presence (at least until it rains). Granted, this is a comic, however, it does bring about a valid point regarding what causes the undead to sense and attack the living.
Naturally, most will grab the Zombie Survival Guide for the answer, however, Mr. Brooks has left us without a solid answer on this one.
According to the Zombie Survival Guide (Page 7; C. Smell):
Unlike with sound, the undead have a more acute sense of smell.
The section goes on to speak of testing where people attempted to navigate undetected by applying cologne and perfumes to disguise the scent of the “living”. What the book does not cover is the exact motivation of the zombie, which surely is still a debated topic without final conclusion. One of the most popular beliefs is that the undead feed on the living and are able to somehow differentiate the two. Knowing that the sense of smell is more acute and that most, if not all other functions and senses are more muted, it would be reasonable to suggest that you could “disguise” yourself by disguising your smell.
So rather than apply cologne to disguise the scent of a living person, why not go a step further and blend in with the other zombies?
There are some drawbacks to this theory, however, in that the first problem comes with safety. You would need to kill one of the undead and have a quick method to grab some “zombie goo” to rub all over you. Zombie goo does not sound too appealing, yet, what would you be willing to do to survive? While there are no reports of this act spreading the disease to the living, that is not to say it couldn’t happen that way, which presents another risk in itself. Also, it is uncertain just how much of the undead scent must be applied in order to effectively mask your living odor. So you could easily under-apply and walk into a death trap.
While the jury is still out on this method of defense, it could provide a temporary solution for you to navigate through a small field of the undead in order to move from one location to another, or even abandon a location before it becomes totally overrun.
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Erin on 27 Jun 2008 at 8:30 pm #
The risk of spreading the infection by application of “zombie goo” to an area with a cut, rash, or simply thin skin (eyes, mouth, etc.) totally nixes this one for me. I am not willing to risk becoming one of them by my own hand.
Death or Glory on 28 Jun 2008 at 12:25 am #
I have a feeling this might be the worst idea ever. Avoiding zombie goo is basically the most important thing for survival, so smearing yourself with it in hopes of not getting infected…? I say lets stick to the basics: Kill, run, or fortify. Still, interesting topic, just for conversations sake.
beelson on 28 Jun 2008 at 2:18 am #
smearing yourself in zombie goo is just as bad as showering in acid…
German Psycho on 28 Jun 2008 at 4:52 am #
And in the most critical situation it is going to start raining. And you are in the middle of a Z crowd.
No thanks, I’ll still use Burberry Pour Homme, in case I meet a female survivor.
ZAC Admin on 28 Jun 2008 at 7:52 am #
“The risk of spreading the infection by application of “zombie goo” to an area with a cut, rash, or simply thin skin (eyes, mouth, etc.) totally nixes this one for me. I am not willing to risk becoming one of them by my own hand.”
I would hope that you would only apply this to clothing and not your skin. If you had a jacket nearby, soak it and put that on above your clothing.
“smearing yourself in zombie goo is just as bad as showering in acid…”
Is there now some link between zombie blood and acid that nobody is aware of? When did zombies turn into the creatures in Aliens?
I think the responses get directly at the heart of how one becomes a zombie. Does one become a zombie through some mixing of the blood, open wound, etc, usually associated with the zombie bite or does one become a zombie due to death as a result of a zombie wound? Meaning, does the bite itself cause the turn or death due to the bite?
Obviously if a link is discovered, then this method would be null and void. One might argue that they would stand clear just in case, however, I think in a very desperate situation this would be an applicable solution to survival. Please understand that this does not imply that should you see 2 zombies slowly mumbling down the street, and are 100 yards away, that you should take a zombie blood bath in order to escape. This method applies best when you are knee deep in s— and need a solution other than what is happening at the moment.
splint.chesthair on 28 Jun 2008 at 12:02 pm #
Many zombie references say zombies are motivated by the need to feed. Why don’t they ever eat other zombies? Would they as the number of humans dwindled and they were “starving”? Why would they need the living flesh of humans?
threatdown on 28 Jun 2008 at 10:12 pm #
We must not forget what Mr. Brooks said about the transference of Solanum. I quote, “Infection can occur only through direct fluidic contact”. From what I understand the only danger would be if one was to have any open wounds which then, this stupid act would cause infection. Also if one were to accidentally swallow any of this goo you can guarantee permanent death from the toxicity before infection can occur. Zombies can also smell living flesh up to a mile away so I don’t think any type of mask will fool them.
In reply to splint.chesthair, Zombies are not motivated by the need to feed. They do not need to feed and what they do eat is useless as the human digestive system is dormant. What Solanum does do is drive the Zombies to find and kill any living creature. No exceptions. That is why they do not “feed” on each other.
Dragonfly on 29 Jun 2008 at 1:37 am #
Maybe they are just like dogs…… no matter what you cover yourself with they can still smell the scent underneath.
ZzDeuceX on 29 Jun 2008 at 5:37 pm #
But dogs can be tricked, jews during the holocaust and drug dealers can tell you that much. I think that rubbing zombie goo on yourself is a last act of desperation right before you die. I am a firm believer in ‘Brainthirst’. The same sense that tells you somone is watching you but used in a new way. Driving zombies to their victims and pushing these walking corpses to eat the flesh of the living. With their sense of smell, as well as what eyesight they have((Because their eyes only stop working if theyre broken)), and combined with ‘brainthirst, Zombies find and eat human beings. That is why a zombie completely cut off from all five senses will still shamble in the direction of a living human being…provided that human has a properly working mind. Zombie goo should be avoided, but if your going to be dead((undead)) anyway…meh, give it a shot.
Kasper on 01 Jul 2008 at 4:08 am #
No-one has suggested this yet, so let me be a first: What about disguising items as YOU? After running around in the same shirt for a week with your life threatened, the shirt is likely to be identifiable in zero-light conditions. Go into an abandoned clothes-store, put on some deo and a shirt that hasn’t been “marked” yet, then dress up one of the semi-humanoid dolls in the window.
Take up position in a relatively safe place, with the doll underneath/outside. If the zombies attack it, they’re scent motivated. Stopping by various places to stick some clothes marked with your own brand of eau de marathon into locked cupboards will then be a decent enough idea. If they ignore it, you got a change of clothes, and scent-related bluffs have been confirmed as non-functional without you walking into a crowd of zombies.
I wouldn’t chance the application of zombie to myself, on the off chance that they can, in fact, distinguish my scent out from underneath it.
Suki on 01 Jul 2008 at 10:09 am #
I don’t see why zombie-specific scent would be necessary. Garbage or sewage should work as well (provided the sewage doesn’t have a zombie playing tea-bag in it). Rotten enough stench to overpower the Human smell.
Julien on 01 Jul 2008 at 11:43 pm #
I think we are all forgetting that zombies have eyes…
Dsurion on 03 Jul 2008 at 2:22 am #
Well sure zombies have eyes, but they also used to be human, and last time I checked the only scent I could track successfully over any sort of distance was my moms fresh cherry pie. But I digress; certainly ones eyes are the most sensitive [susceptible to damage]sense. After all, humans can be flash blinded for days, tiny lacerations can make one blind and all sorts of nasty stuff can grow and reproduce in the warm saline gel between cornea and optic nerve, and that’s all when they’re alive.
I would imagine that a brand new zombie would have almost no problems with its optics, but given some time they are almost certain to deteriorate or even cease to function entirely (assuming the zombie will in fact decompose). However, if we were to follow that logic, then all the senses would certainly fail after some time wallowing in undeath. That does not ‘appear’ to be the case, so perhaps since the eyes are the most delicate sense, a zombie brain shuts them off or drastically reduces efficiency in favor of enhancing the other, more durable senses.
But, as a zombie survivor, I would never try something risky like washing myself in zombie juice. Not only is there the chance it will fail horribly and end in my death, but theres also the very large chance the zombie gunk could get into a wound…and end in my death. So we’re talking 50/50 chance of dying. Anyone want to take those odds?
Oakey on 04 Jul 2008 at 2:05 pm #
This is a completely valid point and seems promising (although extremely dangerous). I’d say if the need arises I would only apply “zombie Goo” onto a rubber surface attached to my body, (contamination suit, ect.). But still, I’d feel safer sticking to a handgun and machete rather than the unnecessary risk of infection.
Avakar on 04 Jul 2008 at 3:52 pm #
Ok, I’ve read quite a bit about “eyes” of a zombie and you all seem to forget that the eyes rely on moisture to function; a zombie is dead so its tear ducts wont function making any sight it has be poor if existent at all and the same could be said for the scent glands. As for usage of the “zombie goo”, it is a viable option in a life or death scenario. Think about it, it’s basically the same as the application of pheromones like hunters use to mask their scent from their prey. The theory is sound, but the inherent risk of contamination and infection is there, that being said I would only do it if I absolutely had to.
Julien on 04 Jul 2008 at 11:41 pm #
On a side note, i have a question about zombie infection. If zombies eat humans and not just bite them, then how does the zombie race multiply so fast? Also, wouldn’t the majority of the zombie population be missing arms, legs, or even heads?
splint.chesthair on 05 Jul 2008 at 8:51 am #
I had a zombie attack dream last night. It sucked. Some of my family and some strangers were holed up in a weird dreamlike version of my house. I had a pistol and a rifle but mainly used a big heavy hammer. These zombies kept sneaking into the house and I couldn’t figure out how. I’d shore up the windows but I never heard any glass breaking but everytime I turned around the windows would be bare and a zombie would pop up. And I kept yelling, “Who keeps taking down the window barricades!” it was frustrating. Luckily the zombies weren’t all that fast and a swift blow to the head with the 4 pound sledge seemed to put them down.
Venturing outside was still OK, it was the kind of situation were people knew about the zombies, but you apparently could still go outside without too much worry. Like the chances weren’t great that a zombie would be around. I kept telling everyone that such a situation would likely change very rapidly but no one would listen. My wife insisted on going to get groceries even. and of course, as she pulled into the garage on her way back, she left the garage door open and right as I was about to yell, a bunch of zombies ran in and overwhelmed the house. I managed to get to the far side of the basement before they all jumped on me and I woke up.
Sucked.
ZzDeuceX on 07 Jul 2008 at 3:39 pm #
On zombie infection: When the horde attacks, the first survivors will not stick around and fight to the death. Upon being attacked and bitten or otherwise infected, the people will un-doubtedly run for either home or they will take the “Get-the-hell-outta-dodge” strategy and make for the nearest highway. Those who were not severely injured, but still infected, are now affected by what is called a “Slow-burn”. They will very slowly become sicker and sicker until coma sets in. During the coma, the infectee will first die, then reanimate. This “Slow-burn” period can last between 24 hours and at length can take up to a week. This is why infection spreads so rapidly, the zeds never have a chance to acctually eat a whole person, only to wound them and watch as they run off to become a zombie elsewhere. Fighting off a zombie is not the hard part, it’s fighting off a zombie without becoming infected. Every part, piece, and fluid of the creature is infectios. The only way to ensure a permanant destruction of the virus is to burn the bodies after the have been put down.
threatdown on 07 Jul 2008 at 7:20 pm #
Has anyone else noticed there has not been a new article posted recently? I am concerned my worst fear may have began. I fear ZAC Admin may have been bitten and an outbreak has begun. I charge everyone to start executing your emergency plans.
Concerned and Prepared,
threatdown
threatdown on 08 Jul 2008 at 11:43 pm #
Attention. Disregard my pervious post.
ZAC Admin on 09 Jul 2008 at 6:29 am #
Not bitten, just huddled down in the confines of the house working out strategies. If you have any article suggestions, send them over. We are always open for suggestions.
Max E. on 14 Jul 2008 at 12:09 pm #
Well. when worst comes to worst, I still couldnt put “zombie goo” on my body. Think about it, if you’ve been running from zeds for a prolonged period of time, then your bound to have a few scrapes and cuts, as is the dangers of melee zombie combat, and blood spatters, so the risk is at maximum here, and I have to say, I wouldn’t be too pleased with spreading any form of goreish goop on myself, expecially with the chances of becoming infected. For those of you braver than me in this instance, I salute you, and I’ll have fun blowing out your brains when you become a zed.
ZzDeuceX on 16 Jul 2008 at 9:25 am #
Here’s a good question: We always think of zombies as cold, but due to their constant and unending motion, wouldn’t their bodies be warm? If not HOT? When we move, we sweat and that helps to cool us down, but a zombie never sweats. They would just keep heating up! I dont think they could get hot enough to fry their brains or anything, but theirs got to be some use to an extra-warm zombie. Warm zombie means warm goop coming out. Might also mean slower freezing time than originally predicted…and quicker un-freezing time…
instruisto on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:33 am #
If you are a real man and you have a decent melee weapon, such as a steel mace, you won’t have to apply zombie goo because you’ll just DEFEAT THE ENEMY! No stinky skulking, just manly hand-to-hand combat with the undead the way our ancestors fought them over the centuries.
As to the motivation, that’s a purely academic topic for the truly prepared. But since I am an expert on the history of the undead I will endeavor to explain when I write my dissertation on the history of the undead.
ZAC Admin on 21 Jul 2008 at 6:24 am #
“If you are a real man “
Testosterone should never overpower the ability of reason.
instruisto on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:15 am #
I’d rather go out like a man smelling like Old Spice than like zombie. Testosterone IS reason.
Dev on 25 Jul 2008 at 7:08 am #
Would plants work? For instance, if zombies depend on smell and if their sense of smell is that highly powered that it’s that of an animal’s, why wouldn’t plants like sage work? Often times, animals will only smell the sage or other plant. The sage has natural oils that would mix well with our natural oils. If zombies want to kill living beings, by smelling like a plant and if they can’t see properly, they could just assume that you’re part of the scenery and therefore not a threat or a possible food source.
I read somewhere that some Native American tribes used to rub sage all over themselves before hunting to mask their human scent. It worked for them, why wouldn’t it work in a situation of needing to stay away from zombies?
Even if it only masks the human smell but they can still smell it, would it be possible (since I don’t think that they’d be intelligent and lucid anymore) for them to just assume that it’s a lingering scent from the other humans that were in the area?
I’d think that since the plant’s oils would blend well with our natural bodily oils, it might work.
Keep in mind that a good friend of mine just showed me today that zombies might be a threat, so I don’t know as much about the possibility of what they might be. Also, please keep in mind that nobody knows anything about zombies *for sure* so this might be a good idea.
Leper on 28 Jul 2008 at 8:35 am #
Actually the sage idea isn’t a bad one. I wouldn’t stake my life on it without thorough testing, but it’s not a terrible proposition. I’d suggest going with freshly grown actual plants rather than powdered or dried stuff you’ll find in canisters at the A&P, but a home herb garden isn’t a bad idea, and should things go downhill quickly (zombie apocalypse style, of course) you’ll always have a supply of fresh basil to give those canned goods you’ve been stockpiling a bit more flavor.
On the question at hand: (Namely smearing yourself with zombie goo)
First off, this makes a few assumptions, some of which I’m not entirely comfortable with.
* Zombies rely heavily on smell to distinguish prey.
Possible, sure. On the other hand, I’ve always agreed with Hamlet on one point: “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” Even in a world of ‘rational, scientific fact’ there’s much we don’t know. There’s many things we can’t explain. There’s so many contradictions in what we choose to accept as ‘the way things really are’ that it’s bordering on madness. Why would any creature ‘evolve’ in such a way that it carries a huge node of nerves which requires more nourishment than the rest of the body combined, but that messy lump largely just sits there, hogging resources and goes completely unused? I’d think, given the concept of natural selection, such an unfortunate critter would die off, replaced by something with a significantly smaller brain that’s used more efficiently–and such a thing would have happened long before now. My point: I’m not banking on the fact that any senses I recognize or have access to have anything at all to do with how a zombie selects their prey. Not when my life and others’ are at stake.
* You have no cuts, scrapes, or other open sores, and will not be receiving any.
This one’s the one that gets me the most, really. Even with the goo applied to a non-permeable outer garment (such as a poncho or biohazard suit, etc) and not directly to the skin or to clothes, running about is dangerous business. Think of all the tiny scrapes, cuts and bruises you got when you were a child playing outside. You may be a bit more coordinated now (or we like to think so) but the truth is it’s a world filled with pointy, sharp things out there, and by placing goo all over yourself you’ve just insured that any wound in that area that might not normally be fatal or even of a concern (or might not even involve damage taken directly from a zombie!) is now a death sentence. Running through trees and a stray limb punctures your glorified garbage bag smeared in goo and manages to draw a little blood? What would normally be nothing to be overly concerned about has just made you a severe liability to anyone you’re traveling with. Again, I’ll pass.
* There was a third point, but I don’t remember what it was now. That will teach me to be so damned long-winded with my replies. Anyhow, if the first reason wasn’t enough, I think the second should be.
jax on 29 Jul 2008 at 9:15 pm #
um… zombie goo all over me? i dont think so. i’m totally with leper on this.
no matter how “goo proof” you always risk the chance of f-ing up and then your dead.
because let’s face it… we’re bound to trip or run into a tree during a moment of fleeing in panic.
i would think that just doing the basic stuff to survive… well in whatever sense the word “basic” will apply when Z’s run the earth… and not try any arnold schwarz in predator type heroics would be everyone’s best bet… SAFEST bet.
why put yourself at risk unnecesarily?
but this whole “zombies smell us thing” has brought me to another question i was pondering earlier….
scenario: let’s say you get trapped somewhere and you need a place to hide while the zombies walk by you… like in your own home for example till you can find a way out and devise a plan (albeit hasty plan, but a plan none the less)…
if you hide in a closet or under the bed, or hell if you put the covers over your head and sit in the corner… would they know you are there? could they smell you? would they even think to look under the bed?
would they bother to knock on a closed door?
would our smell betray us?
Blitz Haigen on 30 Jul 2008 at 10:58 pm #
Disease is a very big issue on this one. That is, if we are speaking of disease-born zombies. Assuming we are, this would likely cause you to be infected and the consequences of this, depending on the effects of the virus and its processes, could become extremely problematic very quickly.
Based on a general knowledge of the human anatomy, it would seem to me that most of the zombie’s senses would shut down as soon as the base organism died. All the senses in the human body are nerve based and if the pain receptors in a body shut down at death, then it would make sense that everything else shut down, too.
Conclusion: Never smear yourself in zombie goo. Perhaps, if you have a psychopath who wants to “join the others” or something and you felt like letting him go, you could convince them to douse themselves in the gunk, but otherwise you should just leave the idea alone.
scOObydOO! on 02 Aug 2008 at 12:02 am #
i wasnt able to read all of what everyone hade to say, but i feel that if this disaster
were to happen and that was your last chance to live on then why not? you die or you
take a chance to live, and if it does’nt work well game over anyways. shoot your self,
u F’ed up so now pick your way ta go.This is my first time on this site and i have ta say
I HAVE SO MANY TACTICS! but……. if u asked me i would not!…put goo on me or my
clothes. ok they can smell your flesh, but what if you cover your flesh and it does’nt
work?…………… maby it’s becaus they can just smell the life beating in you body?
mayby they can just smell the living? dont look at a movie and say “ok, there it is. we
know what were agenst.” think of all the other possibility’s. what if their fast not slow
and dragy? not mindless and stupid, but smarter and thinks faster?……ect.
“let’s get real. let’s really be ready.”
{scOObydOO}
D.O.D on 07 Aug 2008 at 7:36 pm #
I maybe not a PHD at the city hospital but spending time around Specops tactics, dealing with kill efficiencies, functions of different organs and old zombie movies I can tell you this:
Pending on the selections of Z- movie to produce a threat profile we have to provide a study of our opponents.
The average Z has the following (except for the Return of the living dead) important characteristic:
• Relative free movement from walk to run.
• Body fluids.
• Track prey using sight.
• Track prey using smell
• Tracks prey using noises or air vibrations
• Are destroyed by medium to massive head trauma
• Reproducing via contact with body fluids
• Making sounds using air, some seems even to breath and smell (using lungs).
Following the normal sense of these characteristics we see that they are actually not dead. Fluids are not coagulated. Muscles flex enough to give movement. Signals from presumably the brain are still reaching limbs. Decomposure halts or slows down to a minimum after a few days. Most of their senses are working at a rate of a human or slightly less. Intelligence is basic. All these points that what ever has taken over them, presumably mutating virus keeping the host in action to keep alive and spreading and hence they should not really be considered dead. The Human is dead but the host is alive. Actual hearing is not confirmed although they are clearly attracted by sounds and they also seem to communicate by sounds using pack instinct to hunt.
As most go down with a heavy blow to the brain it shows that it could be very susceptible to damage, hence sensitive. That is frag grenades and mines with directed blast as well as shotguns with light pellet loads should be preferable. Chemically modern (skin absorbent) as some V agent nerve-gas should be the most viable option paralysing and by time burning them out as of the cumulative damage to the nerve system due to prolonged exposure. Prolonged exposure should theoretically lead to 100% permanent disability, though not “dead” they can’t move. However many disregard this as it is not a violent death enough to satisfy the Z-fans need for gore hence they try to discredit it using imagination.
If going by any type of scent using what ever organs/senses are left, even if chemically heighten brain functions to amplify smell normal military teargas would completely disrupt these functions. In a home using powerful smelling solutions and female perfumes could be richly distributed thru the environment when escaping should also do the trick. That is, based on our at time limited resources in actual studies based on the cases seen in films its not recommended to try to mask oneself with strong smelling substances as most Zs seems to have a learning threshold with IQ of 30-40 (severe to moderate mental retardation) and they might recognise the smell and pursue the new smell of meat, also it might attract others to investigate the smell, so its highly recommended it to use it only in case of evasion.
As if looking at dogs and most predatory mammals roll them self’s in sh*t to covers up their scent. If you have a dog you will witness some interesting moments when a carcass, the deader the better, and the browner the sh*t is the happier is your dog when he walks in to your living room. As we assume Z’s don’t hit animals (lately dogs) so it might be a better option to head for the park, find some fresh brownies and get a good roll over or better go to the butchery and get some nice carcasses and dress up for the occasion.
All though not the subject of this thread its worth mentioning that when comparing thru effect and destructing power of weapons vs effects of protection, a good chain mail and some 15th century plating, a smaller combat pick axe/war hammer or sword, spiked knuckles and shield should be the most effective ways of attacking an un-armoured opponent using it’s fists and teeth. Care should be taken to protect face and after the battle taking a full body NBC protection shower.
To use a gun/automatic rifle to try to hit a running target in the head under stress would require several hundred rounds. Using a simplified statistic a average machine gunner in Vietnam could use 100 rounds (20 round burst is the optimum, still head hits are considered to be lucky) to score 4-5 hits on a running target, these are hitting the main body and legs as aim are low on full auto or else you shoot the air. The head is about 12% of the body area so of 1000 rounds fire about 3 rounds would hit the head of a running target at a range of 50-100m. These opposed to a high sword cuts from above, and remember these guys don’t duck; you get easily 20-30% per chop. With the smaller pick axe/crowbar that is more controllable due to its size and can produce several more hits then a swords blow you can get up to 40% two or three times faster. By blocking the target with a shield even more head hits could be claimed at a high rate. Or you attack using suppressed 9mm weapons (most use of ammo capacity and low recoil with ability to penetrate neck and skull at CQB ranges), semi auto, with frangible ammo using aim points, working aggressively before the Z can react to the situation and go on the offensive. If they have an IQ of 30-40 you can clear a house before they know what happened (they should not have the capacity to separate the sounds of our boot from their friends limbs).
Use human flesh or adding a blockbuster stereo with my sister screaming, to lure them in to killing zones and wait until they are at their tables using scoped and suppressed rifles and range between 500-1000m you can produce skull shots to 85-95% per shot taking out a village population in a day, if you have enough ammo. Thing is you have to take the control of the situation and engage instead of running and hiding.
Sleep tight.
ZzDeuceX on 11 Aug 2008 at 7:41 pm #
Wish that guy had a website, seems he has enough information on lock, doesnt it? He must have spent a good amount of time typing all that down. Not a bad strategy…from all points. I’d like to see your reactions to a few other scenarios as well.
Ryan on 14 Aug 2008 at 12:47 pm #
PROOF THAT ZOMBIES CAN BE FOOLED BY SMELL:
This eyewitness account from the survivors of the New Milford, Conn. zombie outbreak of 2007:
http://welltoldtales.com/2007/07/03/deaths-a-bitch/
(Kick-ass audio story)
Oscar Wilde on 23 Aug 2008 at 4:32 pm #
I think a zombies “need to feed” stems from the virus. Though considering a virus as living is iffy for this case I’d consider it as such. The goal of a virus is to spread and infecting a body is how it goes about it. And once the virus has infected another body, the virus is successful in it’s goal of spreading and will continue this cycle indefinitely.
Ok now to connect it to the main topic. So the goal of the zombie is the goal of the virus, like all other life, which is to create offspring. A zombie would be wasting its time trying to infect another zombie. It must feed/infect a new untainted host which is living humans. To differentiate between a new host and one already infected the zombie uses its sense of hearing and sense of smell in combination.
My theory is that when one zombie smells a human, the zombie’s groaning will attract other zombies. Having multiple zombies attack increases the likelihood of successfully infecting a new host. By covering ones sent with that of a zombie would work similar to how hunters use deer urine.
I’m assuming methods of contracting the disease would be orally and through the blood. Though it would increase your chances of infecting yourself. This method can be used successfully if one is careful enough to not have open wounds, soars and an unprotected mouth and eyes.
To test this method you could present yourself to a dog. I remember in WWZ the Israelis used dogs as zombie detectors. They would growl if a person had become infected despite appearing healthy. I’m guessing they use their strong sense of smell to do this. Given that a dog’s sense of smell is much stronger than a humans it should be much stronger than a zombie’s. So if you can get a dog to think you’re a zombie I’m sure zombies will not be able to tell the difference either.
Sorry if I wrote too much. I hope someone reads at least parts of it.
TLDR: Hiding your scent might work, don’t get yourself infected. Test it with a dog.
-- on 28 Sep 2008 at 7:35 pm #
I think some axe-bombs oughta take care of them. Pick up a few spray-cans of heavy odors, tape down the trigger and toss. Perfume bottles would work too. With any luck, their sense of smell will be overpowered by Axe and Eau de Emesis, and with some luck, they may very well die. In addition, it would provide for some warning before a zed horde comes storming in. I’m imagining chucking cans of deodorant off of rooftops onto roaming hordes of fifteen or twenty. The sheer comic relief of this act would also be plenty useful.
Dreamornaut on 11 Oct 2008 at 5:19 pm #
I would think that since zombies don not truly seem to interact or even really acknowledge each other outside of being attracted to the tell tale ‘moan’ which just may be a general attraction to sound. This might mean that they simply do not acknowledge each other as a life form. Considering this, I would think that it’s most likely that they detect life possibly via sweat. In which case it could be a matter of simply masking the odor (mostly water and chlorides) of us sweaty mammals. This would also possibly explain why they seem to prefer humans since (I could be wrong) I believe we have more sweat glands then most other mammals. Thinking about it, has anyone heard of an instance in which the Z have attacked non-mammals like reptiles, amphibians, fish and insects?
AssasinatingTheZombies on 14 Oct 2008 at 12:06 pm #
surely, wearing a spandex suit under ur clothes wud help?
if not a bit too sexual…or gAsexual lol
i wud wear spandex suit, or summat to cover my body, wud wear thin metal bracelocks around my limbs, chest and neck, wud wear metal helmet shield, and wud use a flamethrower, an M4 carbine, and sum phosphoroues grenades in the dozen
burning is the only true answer, and ud have to burn them as u see them, or the fluid cud get away, into a drain, an multiply, creating a new mutant-ic zombie
although, a knight in shining armour, wud ironically be useful, as they r protected from all zombie attacks, and bites, and if they had flamethrower, M4 and phosphorous grenades, then that wud be a life saver
cudnt u drive around in an armoured SUV, emitting a kind of brown noise…or a dog whistle, except for zombies…without fluids of being alive, zomkbies cud not see, hear, smell, or touch, so they must be being controlled by a higher source, meaning….there is an evil genius with a million henchmen, converting the dead into walking undead
that has to be it
Dreamornaut on 18 Oct 2008 at 7:57 am #
Do you mean spandex or latex? If it’s spandex you’ll still sweat, so I’m not sure if I see an advantage other then you’d have nothing hanging loose (OK, talking about latex and things hanging loose is just wrong) for the Zed to grab. In the case of latex, yes it’s not breathable at all and sweat wouldn’t escape. The bad part of it, neither will you. Sweating is part of the bodies cooling system and if your sweat can’t evaporate you could possibly die from heat stroke even in a snow storm.
OK, I’m exaggerating a little, but only a little.
Dr Who on 19 Oct 2008 at 6:54 pm #
It all comes down to how zombies track their prey. Sight, smell, sound, or some other method. We’ll pass on discussing other methods as these are obviously paranormal and beyond logical discussion. Sight falls under two different catagories motion based (how most animals see) and pattern recognition (how humans and higher brain functioning animals see), smell and sound are self explanatory. I believe it has to be a combination of these three senses that form the zombie hunting skill set. Working on the premise that biological function has changed from living human to virus controlled and the host body has not been altered or degraded by decomposition the zombie senses will not be increased. This being said the zombie will show signs of sense increase because brain function degrading to animal level causes the host organism to pay more attention to input from the senses and not self generated input. My beliefs are that sight will change from pattern based recognition to motion based. This means camoflage will have no use and hunting blinds and slow movement will be best. This change will free up brain function for other processes and will be a necesity as the brain will now be at a premium. Sound is completely self explanatory and would only show a minor increase in observable use. Smell is where we can see an actual marked increase in observable use. For whatever reason we humans pay little attention to our sense of smell, using as little as 30% of our capability. So you can imagine the boost that smell would get. This still would not bring a zed to the level of a dog , but would not confer a tracking ability, though following a scent upwind could happen. This being said, coating onesself in zombie goo would not be a workable action. You would have to have direct goo-skin contact for the two smells (zombie and human) to combine. Otherwise you would have two different scent that the dead tell the difference between, obviously the case elsewise a zombie couldn’t smell you over the stronger smell of his bottom lip. So now it’s down to coating your SKIN with this or it not working. I’ll let the reader decide whether the POSSIBILITY of being ignored is worth the risk of infection, either from the zombie virus or any of the other diseases a walking corpse will be carrying. All this being said there are many ways of masking your own scent through washing and wearing cologne to chem suits to offensive area weapons such as strong chemicals and gallon bottles of perfumes. The only thing is the learning curve for these is too high to blindly experiment with. While the walking dead comic series is really good I wouldn’t try what the character in question did (coated in zed gunk and halving two of them as pets) anymore than play a video game with a zombie (ala Shaun of the Dead). In an outbreak someone else can be the test subject for this tactic I won’t be it. Chemicals and Perfume bombs could be tested at a distance with relative safety as long as a good and quick escape method was available.
Dreamornaut on 20 Oct 2008 at 8:19 am #
I definitely agree on the zed losing pattern recognition and that camouflage would not be effective. A walking virus receptacle that doesn’t show any problem solving capability simply wouldn’t need to expend the brain power on it. Essentially it’s the same scenario of a blind person exhibiting hirer sensitivity to other senses. Nothing actually happens to make the ears, nose or touch function better, but the brain know has more processing power free to devote to other senses.
Bearfoot on 24 Nov 2008 at 10:29 am #
Actually, they sell stuff that smells like dead bodies to train corpse sniffing dogs.
However it’s a carefully restricted substance and probably going to be very hard to find even BEFORE the end of civilization.
jordan on 03 Dec 2008 at 8:43 pm #
Well i got the living dead comics, awsome read, and going by what they said about the zombies the goo wouldnt hurt you. Only their bight was lethal, and weather or not thats what killed you if you died from somthing other than a brain wound you came back as a zombie.
i do not, however feel that smell, sight, or hearing are that advanced in a zombie. like some have already mention eyes of the dead are no that capable likwise for the ears and nose. If the body is dead the nose and ears are filled with coagulated blood and other vile secreations. Its as if they were filled with concrete. vital chemicals and fluids processed by are bodys for the nose are no longer being regulated by homeostasis and left to rot. the cavities of the inner ear colapsed of more likelydried out and cracked like driy-rotted rubber.
To say that they are still functioning at any level is to say the body is not completely dead. This goes against the definiton of zombie.
Perhaps though i am wrong, shit these are all guesses anyways, lets say the senses continue to function at any capacity. our olfactory capability is still no where near that of a dogs or most other animals for that matter, neither is our sight or sense of hearing. could it be that we humans just make ourselfes easy targets by being loud fidgety and generlly different smelling than everything else?
right now as i type this i can hear the naeighbor close, probably slam, his car door. Its a more rural area so the cars about 300 yards away and im in my room wich is about as far from there house as you can get, inside the house. What about at night, we use lights for everything we all know these are easy to see from any distance, the stars above tell us that and im not getting mooshy on you neither. and as for the smell, well i think thats all bullshit, we just cant pick up the parts per million that an animal can needed to track a human being.
and a few suggestions for future topics:
-best booby traps/lures for zombies
-could a zombie generate enough heat to be seen with infared?
-how long would it take for fire to cook a zombies brain?
-can you kill a zombie with a zombie? (my method involves a lazer pointer)
-best armor for a vehicle, smooth or reinforced?