Comments on: Animals and the Pending Zombie Attack http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/ Look Dead Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:45:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Phantom-edge http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-121267 Phantom-edge Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:14:09 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-121267 To be honest,unless somebody deals with the animal zombie outbreak we are pretty much doomed.why you ask? Mainly because of all the discussed topics,water,meat but let's not forget the environmental catastrophy that would occur,Imagine if all animals were zombiefied ,water unless filtered would be a hazard,without water plantlife would suffer and it would be completely destroyed if animals such as bees would be zombified......LOL.....anywho it would be pretty much game over if animals were to become infected....2-3months tops you would survive.god dam does it hurt to type in an itouch. To be honest,unless somebody deals with the animal zombie outbreak we are pretty much doomed.why you ask? Mainly because of all the discussed topics,water,meat but let’s not forget the environmental catastrophy that would occur,Imagine if all animals were zombiefied ,water unless filtered would be a hazard,without water plantlife would suffer and it would be completely destroyed if animals such as bees would be zombified……LOL…..anywho it would be pretty much game over if animals were to become infected….2-3months tops you would survive.god dam does it hurt to type in an itouch.

]]> By: GonzoTheBurner http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-120679 GonzoTheBurner Thu, 01 Jan 2009 12:12:41 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-120679 We never will know for sure what will actually happen, but the origin of the disease (if it is a viral infection) can give clues to solving this matter. My best guess is that this Z-virus could be a natural or engineered version of rabies. With advances in bio technology these days, I don't think too many people would say it's far fetched that the rabies virus could be altered and turned into a zombie creating biological weapon. If this is so, it's very likely that interspecies infections would take place. Like most have said, the animals would more than likely stay away from infected attackers. Though I find this notion, or more like a optimistic rule of slow and clumsy undead moaners, as a misplaced faith in hoping the beloved "documentaries" we hold dear, are accurate. I imagine it would be more like 28 days later, with freshly infected "undead" retaining much of their motor skills. At this early stage, they may be even more swift and enduring than a healthy, uninfected human. They could possibley catch animals. The thought of cats is the one I would be worried about most, but I think the most likely are rats, mice and maybe the mosquitos. I would like to omit birds, because I don't recall birds being suseptible to rabies, but you never know. All candidates are possible. We never will know for sure what will actually happen, but the origin of the disease (if it is a viral infection) can give clues to solving this matter. My best guess is that this Z-virus could be a natural or engineered version of rabies. With advances in bio technology these days, I don’t think too many people would say it’s far fetched that the rabies virus could be altered and turned into a zombie creating biological weapon.

If this is so, it’s very likely that interspecies infections would take place. Like most have said, the animals would more than likely stay away from infected attackers. Though I find this notion, or more like a optimistic rule of slow and clumsy undead moaners, as a misplaced faith in hoping the beloved “documentaries” we hold dear, are accurate. I imagine it would be more like 28 days later, with freshly infected “undead” retaining much of their motor skills. At this early stage, they may be even more swift and enduring than a healthy, uninfected human. They could possibley catch animals. The thought of cats is the one I would be worried about most, but I think the most likely are rats, mice and maybe the mosquitos.

I would like to omit birds, because I don’t recall birds being suseptible to rabies, but you never know. All candidates are possible.

]]> By: Marius http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-120300 Marius Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:36:52 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-120300 Well if we look at the "Return" zacks, it could be caused by a chemical reaction that is cross species. And in a case like that, I'd really had to see Zack-Roaches. At that point, pretty much just game over. We can't kill them off now, think of how much worse it would be if they were undead. And yes I've seen roach bites on humans, so cross contamination would be an issue. Well if we look at the “Return” zacks, it could be caused by a chemical reaction that is cross species. And in a case like that, I’d really had to see Zack-Roaches. At that point, pretty much just game over. We can’t kill them off now, think of how much worse it would be if they were undead. And yes I’ve seen roach bites on humans, so cross contamination would be an issue.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-111482 Ryan Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:39:08 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-111482 I think the guy who has hydrophobia has a decent point. If the mosquitos can catch it they breed in standing water meaning you have to have running water to avoid them. Also if the water were to become contaminated you could just boil it, this almost always works. The reason I know that distilling it yourself works is that I use to live right next to a lake and the water didn't get filtered properly or something because the water that came from the sinks was pure lake water, still sorta green looking if you fill the sink or bathtub. Also distilled water tastes worse than lake water but its much safer. Another thing you forgot, aligators/crocodiles/frogs/other amphibious animals. They all go back and forth between land and water meaning if it can spread to them crocodiles have a natural ability to run at 30 mph if i remember correctly... or mabey it was aligators... well one of them does. Frogs don't bite, but they can pee on you and possibly infect you that way through a wart. Another thing, if zombies were to actually come about nothing would work except natural instincts meaning animals will act exactly the same as normal only slightly less brain function. People on the other hand only have one natural instinct which is the ability to breathe (eating has to be taught its not something you learn on your own as a child). All other instincts have to be learned from someone who happened to develop their own instincts due to their own lifestyle. That also means with the exception of speach humans will act exactly as they did prior to zombification (this means factory workers for 40 years will still be able to do their job as zombies) also they would probably be moderately retarded as far as brain function goes. All the violence would be a result from desperation (as the natural habbit to eat out or at home would most likely still be there till food ran out) and starvation. This also means that vegitarians that have the instinct to go for veggies would probably start eating grass and trees and die off from lack of noticing those poisonous red berries or that poison ivy/oak/sumak that is starting to cause their throat to swell up on the inside. That principal would definately apply to animals, after a few days of no food in their normal location they get rather violent. If youve ever forgotten to feed your dog for a few days you know exactly what I'm talking about. As for herbavores even if they were to get infected I wouldn't worry too much as their teeth are not designed for biting into flesh the way omnivores and perdators are. That also means once all those bears you were talking about run out of fish and the various types of plants that they can eat you're completely screwed if you live in a bear populated area. Anyway my main point is if a zompocalypse happens you most likely won't realize it until all the normal food is gone and you are staring at one of your neighbors is trying to take a bite out of you or one of your other neighbors, and by then its already waaaay too late to get out or prepared. I think the guy who has hydrophobia has a decent point. If the mosquitos can catch it they breed in standing water meaning you have to have running water to avoid them. Also if the water were to become contaminated you could just boil it, this almost always works. The reason I know that distilling it yourself works is that I use to live right next to a lake and the water didn’t get filtered properly or something because the water that came from the sinks was pure lake water, still sorta green looking if you fill the sink or bathtub. Also distilled water tastes worse than lake water but its much safer.

Another thing you forgot, aligators/crocodiles/frogs/other amphibious animals. They all go back and forth between land and water meaning if it can spread to them crocodiles have a natural ability to run at 30 mph if i remember correctly… or mabey it was aligators… well one of them does. Frogs don’t bite, but they can pee on you and possibly infect you that way through a wart.

Another thing, if zombies were to actually come about nothing would work except natural instincts meaning animals will act exactly the same as normal only slightly less brain function. People on the other hand only have one natural instinct which is the ability to breathe (eating has to be taught its not something you learn on your own as a child). All other instincts have to be learned from someone who happened to develop their own instincts due to their own lifestyle. That also means with the exception of speach humans will act exactly as they did prior to zombification (this means factory workers for 40 years will still be able to do their job as zombies) also they would probably be moderately retarded as far as brain function goes. All the violence would be a result from desperation (as the natural habbit to eat out or at home would most likely still be there till food ran out) and starvation. This also means that vegitarians that have the instinct to go for veggies would probably start eating grass and trees and die off from lack of noticing those poisonous red berries or that poison ivy/oak/sumak that is starting to cause their throat to swell up on the inside. That principal would definately apply to animals, after a few days of no food in their normal location they get rather violent. If youve ever forgotten to feed your dog for a few days you know exactly what I’m talking about. As for herbavores even if they were to get infected I wouldn’t worry too much as their teeth are not designed for biting into flesh the way omnivores and perdators are. That also means once all those bears you were talking about run out of fish and the various types of plants that they can eat you’re completely screwed if you live in a bear populated area.

Anyway my main point is if a zompocalypse happens you most likely won’t realize it until all the normal food is gone and you are staring at one of your neighbors is trying to take a bite out of you or one of your other neighbors, and by then its already waaaay too late to get out or prepared.

]]> By: demonspawnjake http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-106821 demonspawnjake Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:37:19 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-106821 i think most animals would keep away from the the living dead all together at FIRST but when push come to shove im sure theyd eat that zombies body when hungry. i think theyd be like a four legged zombie slow and dumb as for bird dont think theyd fly and i dont think we have worry about roaches the only thing that would kill them are shoes lawl. but if you dont have a firearm something like a zombie bear would be horrible,it would be very resistant to melee weapons such as shovels,bats,tire irons etc. so if ya do see a zombie bear run like hell or shoot it in the face if ya got a gun i think most animals would keep away from the the living dead all together at FIRST but when push come to shove im sure theyd eat that zombies body when hungry. i think theyd be like a four legged zombie slow and dumb as for bird dont think theyd fly and i dont think we have worry about roaches the only thing that would kill them are shoes lawl. but if you dont have a firearm something like a zombie bear would be horrible,it would be very resistant to melee weapons such as shovels,bats,tire irons etc. so if ya do see a zombie bear run like hell or shoot it in the face if ya got a gun

]]> By: KC http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-102878 KC Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:54:16 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-102878 If one species can become infected, it could affect an entire ecosystem if they are susceptible to it. Just from going up the food-chain and after the individual dies, being eaten by scavengers(rats, dogs, etc) and microscopic bacteria. Blood-drinking mosquitoes only drink blood when they need supplements for their eggs. Normally, they drink nectar like the males. I'd hope that zed mosquitoes wouldn't feel the urge to breed so it could only be passed if there remains a significant amount of virus-free mosquitoes that, to devleop eggs, feed on the blood of the infected. If one species can become infected, it could affect an entire ecosystem if they are susceptible to it. Just from going up the food-chain and after the individual dies, being eaten by scavengers(rats, dogs, etc) and microscopic bacteria.

Blood-drinking mosquitoes only drink blood when they need supplements for their eggs. Normally, they drink nectar like the males. I’d hope that zed mosquitoes wouldn’t feel the urge to breed so it could only be passed if there remains a significant amount of virus-free mosquitoes that, to devleop eggs, feed on the blood of the infected.

]]> By: Dreamornaut http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-102757 Dreamornaut Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:55:34 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-102757 Well just talking about the 'Max Brooks' zombie, it's not so much that zombies ignore other species, but that other species including micro-organism avoid them. A zed who somehow gets hold of a animal will infect it, but it only causes perminant death. The plus side is that even if a zombie could infect and zombify animals, it would still be rare since it would be dificult for the slow shambling corpses to catch them. Now if these solanumbulists did not have this animal revulsion element, then there would be a chance for mutations allowing cross species mutations. In that case, on the up side, the zombies would decompose normally and have an extremely reduced 'life-span', though if somehow a very few people somehow survived this they would find themselves in a world that would be nothing but insects and plants. Hell, in the deep south for instance, the disease would likely run it's course in a matter of months at the most considering the usual rates of decomposition. This means that the survival strategy would have to be changed from making a life in an undead world to one of locking yourself in a fortified quarentined area for less then a year in most places. After even six months, the dead still walking would likely be far to weak and feeble to really pose a threat. Though admitably, the likelyhood of making it that long would still be almost nil. Well just talking about the ‘Max Brooks’ zombie, it’s not so much that zombies ignore other species, but that other species including micro-organism avoid them. A zed who somehow gets hold of a animal will infect it, but it only causes perminant death. The plus side is that even if a zombie could infect and zombify animals, it would still be rare since it would be dificult for the slow shambling corpses to catch them.

Now if these solanumbulists did not have this animal revulsion element, then there would be a chance for mutations allowing cross species mutations. In that case, on the up side, the zombies would decompose normally and have an extremely reduced ‘life-span’, though if somehow a very few people somehow survived this they would find themselves in a world that would be nothing but insects and plants. Hell, in the deep south for instance, the disease would likely run it’s course in a matter of months at the most considering the usual rates of decomposition. This means that the survival strategy would have to be changed from making a life in an undead world to one of locking yourself in a fortified quarentined area for less then a year in most places. After even six months, the dead still walking would likely be far to weak and feeble to really pose a threat. Though admitably, the likelyhood of making it that long would still be almost nil.

]]> By: AssasinatingTheZombies http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-102358 AssasinatingTheZombies Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:17:42 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-102358 WHAT IF OUR WATER SUPPPLY GETS INFECTED....WE NEED A WAY TO GET UNINFECTED FOOD AND WATER WE CANNOT TRUST TAPS,LAKES, SEA'S, RESOVOIRS...CUD WE TRUST CONDENSATION? cud the air carry the zombie virus, even if it is dormant there? THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED THERES NO POINT FIGHTING ZOMBIES IF WE CANT GET ACCESS TO FRESH UNINFECTED WATER...I MEAN, U OBV CANT BARRICADE URSELF also, a way to escape...light a fire, put a black bag in it, black smoke...wud a. if any army or owt is flying past, wud notice its a help sign, and place ur arm (cut off) or say, a pure chicken, onto the fire, about half foot away, it will cook, and as fresh meat, has a high %age of attracting the zombie nation, u cud even make it a killing zone, an ambush if u will and make a dodgy joke about you being dead inside if ur a mass murderer...possibilities, and survivial WE CANNOT TRUST WATER! WHAT IF OUR WATER SUPPPLY GETS INFECTED….WE NEED A WAY TO GET UNINFECTED FOOD AND WATER

WE CANNOT TRUST TAPS,LAKES, SEA’S, RESOVOIRS…CUD WE TRUST CONDENSATION?

cud the air carry the zombie virus, even if it is dormant there?

THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED

THERES NO POINT FIGHTING ZOMBIES IF WE CANT GET ACCESS TO FRESH UNINFECTED WATER…I MEAN, U OBV CANT BARRICADE URSELF

also, a way to escape…light a fire, put a black bag in it, black smoke…wud a. if any army or owt is flying past, wud notice its a help sign, and place ur arm (cut off) or say, a pure chicken, onto the fire, about half foot away, it will cook, and as fresh meat, has a high %age of attracting the zombie nation, u cud even make it a killing zone, an ambush if u will

and make a dodgy joke about you being dead inside if ur a mass murderer…possibilities, and survivial

WE CANNOT TRUST WATER!

]]> By: jjc http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-90460 jjc Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:20:37 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-90460 Their is really only three things that need to be mention here two of which kind of already have been. First is the real main problem, if animals can turn it is no longer safe to eat meat. Which means in the zombie apocalypse we will all have to become vegetarians, crap. Secondly, though insects may be able to turn they probably won't be large enough to pass enough infected material onto you so ultimately the insect won't pose a significant threat. Third and most interestingly no one mentioned is the brain case. A zombie bear isn't merely stronger but more importantly has a thicker skull. That 22 your carrying won't do shit and that 9mm may not do you much good either. Just in case you haven't thought about it yet this means a zombie elephant would be all but indestructible. Happy hunting. Their is really only three things that need to be mention here two of which kind of already have been. First is the real main problem, if animals can turn it is no longer safe to eat meat. Which means in the zombie apocalypse we will all have to become vegetarians, crap. Secondly, though insects may be able to turn they probably won’t be large enough to pass enough infected material onto you so ultimately the insect won’t pose a significant threat. Third and most interestingly no one mentioned is the brain case. A zombie bear isn’t merely stronger but more importantly has a thicker skull. That 22 your carrying won’t do shit and that 9mm may not do you much good either. Just in case you haven’t thought about it yet this means a zombie elephant would be all but indestructible. Happy hunting.

]]> By: Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-74465 Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:31:26 +0000 http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2008/07/29/animals-and-the-pending-zombie-attack/#comment-74465 Mosquitoes could be a problem, not because of their bite, well not particularly, they feed on blood. If they were to ingest, even a small quantity of blood from one of the infected even before said infected had become a zombie then they could be a danger to those who are not infected. Supposing the virus effects them at all, I can see the jump to of mammalian species like chimps and the great apes, not reptiles though. True the future is bleak if the zombie virus was to mutate, and lets hope it doesn’t, but that shouldn’t stop zombies from attacking other species. Lets all remember one of the tactics to kill in Max Brooks’ book was to bait them in with live bait, a cat or dog, so I believe this ends the discussion on whether or not zeds would be attracted to other animals. On a final note viruses and diseases mutate constantly so lets not rule this scenario out just quite yet. We also must consider that the virus might jump the species gap but just because it does not mean that the virus would be dangerous to us, necessarily, it could kill us, but not turn us. I know that might not be a lot of help, but its something. In all reality, it a change that animals could become infected and only give a danger to others of their kind. “They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you? when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?” Dropkick Murphys - The Gauntlet Mosquitoes could be a problem, not because of their bite, well not particularly, they feed on blood. If they were to ingest, even a small quantity of blood from one of the infected even before said infected had become a zombie then they could be a danger to those who are not infected. Supposing the virus effects them at all, I can see the jump to of mammalian species like chimps and the great apes, not reptiles though.
True the future is bleak if the zombie virus was to mutate, and lets hope it doesn’t, but that shouldn’t stop zombies from attacking other species. Lets all remember one of the tactics to kill in Max Brooks’ book was to bait them in with live bait, a cat or dog, so I believe this ends the discussion on whether or not zeds would be attracted to other animals.
On a final note viruses and diseases mutate constantly so lets not rule this scenario out just quite yet. We also must consider that the virus might jump the species gap but just because it does not mean that the virus would be dangerous to us, necessarily, it could kill us, but not turn us. I know that might not be a lot of help, but its something. In all reality, it a change that animals could become infected and only give a danger to others of their kind.

“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys - The Gauntlet

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