Comments on: Group Preparedness

By: Angryvikingman

Angryvikingman — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:10:37 +0000

You said it yourself, you have to be almost perpendicular. Shooting at a car windshield, you’d have to be standing on the hood to achieve a 90 degree angle of attack.
Shooting at a plate glass window:

Most bullets hitting glass at a relatively normal angle(up to 25 degrees offset or so) track fairly well out to 10-15 feet or so, less than 2″ deflection from point of aim in most cases. The problem is the fact that the bullet normally gets torn all to hell in the process of getting through the glass. With the good bonded core bullets(like the Federal LE Tactical 165gn stuff marketed directly at this target array) it isn’t a problem, but with the 168 and 175gn SMK’s the core and jacket separate and you could have some terminal effect issues, particularly if the deflection from the glass results in the bullet striking the target’s forehead instead of the cranio-occular window. Instead of lights out, it’s headache and a drop to the ground, out of line of sight of the shooter.

If you want to say i’m full of shit, fine, but I’m not wrong. Watch the Futureweapons episode where they show the .50 beowulf. Mac says the exact same thing I did about 9mm and .223 skipping off auto glass.

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By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:13:42 +0000

I would get most of my friends together, fortify a place, and go out on weekly runs into town for ammo, food, water, and anything else we need. If a survivor came upon us, I would let them stay, but keep an eye on him. I don’t think I would turn anyone away, new people bring new skills to the table.

By: Sharpshooter

Sharpshooter — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:08:14 +0000

very true Skeluhtor.

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By: Skeluhtor

Skeluhtor — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:22:12 +0000

i dont like how everyone thinks they will be in charge… obviously at first u will have to be incharge of yourself but i would gladly pass it on to the next man if he proved more competant.. i know my limitations and the right person would know thiers… while they may make a better leader i will have skills they wont

just a thought i mean never sell yourself short and take an order u know will doom you but also know your own limitations

example… me and 3-5 friends band togather and knowing we get along dont have any problems… then our group grows to take in others… well fred seems to have been leading his group of 15 very effeciantly… but he doesnt have very many weapons or much training… yet they are all still alive maybe he has better leadership skills especially to keep 15 illequipt people alive and sane

By: Etienne

Etienne — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:33:35 +0000

This is very true, both in war ad in possible zombie invasions.

By: Phantom-edge

Phantom-edge — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:28:12 +0000

hhmm…to be honest I would not pick my team until after the zombie invasion,why do you ask?first off it is dangerous but in the long run once the weak are eliminated,the only people left will have survival talents,most likely crucial to your and their survival.As cruel as that sounds A weak person would just slow you down unless you are certain you can protect them,then it’s best to let them be.
Once I do have a team,I would look for survivors,assuming there are any,weak or strong I would rescue them,maybe they have no talent in their bones or maybe they are crazy but as long as they can carry and help planting(you never know if you have to make a mini-society)I really don’t find a problem.If there is somebody who is basically “killing” the team,mentally,emotionally,and some cases physically I would use them as bait in discresion.

By: Kasper

Kasper — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:42:09 +0000

This might sound brutal, but it could be an idea to keep “profiles” on the members of
your group if it grows large enough due to taking on survivors. More specifically, keep
account of their contributions, assign a preset value to different kinds of work, or
different kinds of loot. Basically, create an economy. This is somewhat late in the
process, however, so probably not an issue for Group Preparedness.

By: Sharpshooter

Sharpshooter — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:57:39 +0000

hmm i like the pack idea but wouldnt work very well with my friends… we are picky on who we hang out with meaning that unless the new guy had some badly needed skill (such as him being a doctor) he wouldnt get into the base i know it sounds cruel but it’s the way things are with me. my friends are some what of a good system… i can shoot amazingly with my rifle (hence the name) but i suck when it comes to shooting hand guns i mean im just HORRID at it but one of my friends is a good shot with hand guns but also sucks with rifles… with us the only tihng we would be missing would be someone whos good with explosives like i mean can make homemade bombs big enough to blow up a city block and a doctor.

By: Josh

Josh — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:47:04 +0000

I wouldnt recomend hunting or fishing or eating any wild animal unless its your last resort,they may be infected,i would reccomend putting dehydrated food in your mzpk.

By: Angryvikingman

Angryvikingman — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:06:14 +0000

LOL! More like bullet resistant. If mass and velocity are sufficient, then even a tree limb can break the “glass”. Mostly plastic is used because it will flex and deflect projectiles. Although, a lot of times, bullets will skip off or deflect when hitting even normal vehicle glass. Sure, it’ll break the window so your second shot may pass through, but you may not get a second shot. 9mm and .223/5.56 are notorious for it. If you want to shoot through glass, go for a .30 caliber or higher projectile, and no less than 150 grain. Anyway, I doubt that zombies could penetrate the plastic and heavy guage steel wire that covers a bulldozer cab. If you want to use it with 100% “zombie-proofness” then up armor with 1/8 inch steel plate and extra lexan “glass”. Lexan is really really strong. I know from personal experience. My friend left her infant in the car and locked the keys inside in winter, and I couldnt even break the window with the sharp end of a tire iron. The PSI must have been enormous, but it didnt break. Took a screwdriver and pryed the triangular window out of the back door. It was a rural area and no locksmiths could get there in less than an hour and a half. Too long and too cold to leave an infant in the car. The child had been in the car for 30+ minutes and I didnt want to chance hypothermia.