Zombie Animals Are Now A Reality
From inception of the Zombies Are Coming site, there has been some debate and discussion regarding zombie animals. Are animals effected? Will they too become part of the undead horde that will some day ravage the Earth? Word from Australia reports that scientists have created zombie dogs, proving that animals are not completely beyond the realm of the undead.
Here is a recent article on the subject:
Scientists have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans.
US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years.Pittsburgh’s Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject’s veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution.
The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity. But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.
Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.
However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours, but even this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.
During the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs’ body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death.
Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved.
Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies, giving them 100 percent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts.
Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage.
“The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology,” said one US battlefield doctor.
Source: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html
While this article addresses the obvious medical concerns of treating certain victims, it ignores the studies that should be done and other questions that could be answered.
- The long term and short term effects of such a procedure on animals and humans.
- This procedure has been tried only on subjects that were recently deceased. Would such a test have similar results on subjects that have been dead longer? Note that the article states the tissues and organs have been perfectly preserved. This would not be the case for all zombies, obviously.
- Does this lean toward the argument of slow moving zombies? If the testing holds for animals and humans where organs and tissues have been preserved, what happens with decayed tissues and missing organs? Will the zombies still have very basic motor functions but be slowed due to their decayed state?
- If in fact scientists are able to replicate a zombie human, many studies should be done to see how that knowledge can help better prepare when dealing with volumes of the zombies.
What are your thoughts about zombie animals?
Stay safe. Stay informed. Stay alive.
Comments (63)
Sharpshooter on 06 Jan 2009 at 8:17 pm #
well its confermed now…. we’re screwed
Zombie Fetus on 06 Jan 2009 at 10:16 pm #
Holy shit.
Why isn’t this on the news?
This is a huge breakthrough in modern medical science!
If this process can be efficiently reproduces in succession- then the lives of humans will be lengthened by a great percent.
Imagine people paying for this process just to feel the cold grasp of death before their time actually comes.
Dsurion on 07 Jan 2009 at 2:59 am #
Great. Just perfect…as if a horde of humies wasn’t a big enough problem. On the bright side, maybe they’ll be loyal companions in undeath.
…
Or not. But it would be nice.
Phantom-edge on 07 Jan 2009 at 7:23 am #
Wouldn’t this be more of a cryogenic solution rather than a zombie threat?the process of suspended animation……yes they are technically dead,and they are then reborn again but that wouldn’t make them zombies as the article mentioned they are perfectly normal……as in not killing anyone….although this process can save you from a zombie apocolyptic world if used in long term……ohhhhhh now I’m just rambling.
ZAC Admin on 07 Jan 2009 at 1:00 pm #
Phantom-edge,
I believe the definition of a zombie would need clarification then. Is a zombie merely something dead that is now undead or does it have to also be attempting to kill something before it is officially labeled as a zombie?
Either way, I think there needs to be more testing to see the long term effects of such a process and how someone having undergone such “treatment” would react well after the procedure.
sean on 07 Jan 2009 at 10:52 pm #
see this is the very case and point of this site
how else would we get such crucial information otherwise?
Cyaegha42 on 08 Jan 2009 at 6:22 am #
Why am I reminded of the two-headed canine experiments by the Soviets back in the ’50’s? That and a line from Pet Semetary… “You heard that frost Louis. Sounded just like tacky paper when you peeled that cat up. Frost don’t stick till yer dead.”.
And besides, taking out an undead animal is just as, if not harder, to some than your standard Human shuffler. We Humans(the live ones) have had a symbiotic relationship to animals for as far back as anecdotal, oral, and recorded history goes. Dogs and cats are integral parts of human mythos structure, such as Orion’s dog, and the Egyptian goddess Bast.
I, for one, see potential undeath in two lights: First- for guard duties, if infection isn’t a problem. Second- And this shames me that my mind thinks this way, but anyone remember the bomb dogs of the Second World War? Why bother strapping bombs on a dog that’s frightening in both countenance and behaviour. Kill mode is generally switched on, in my cases, correct?
Sharpshooter on 08 Jan 2009 at 11:57 am #
if you click on the link it says on the New York Times website “while a small minority of the dogs suffered permanent damage” they dont go into spec’s about what kind of damage! the dogs couldve just simply died, the could’ve had mental problems, couldn’t control their bodily functions (such as pooping whenever the need arises), or they could’ve woken up as zed’s! see?!?! this is why i hate the damn news paper……
Angryvikingman on 08 Jan 2009 at 5:34 pm #
I don’t like dogs anyway, so I’ll just shoot them too. After a while, they’d just become feral and a danger even if they werent zombies.
Marius on 08 Jan 2009 at 8:11 pm #
So would the Z Dogs crave human brains, dog brains, or kittybrains? Or would they care?
Moose on 08 Jan 2009 at 11:43 pm #
Don’t zombies have to feel the need to feed? I feel that this helps in our effort to define what a zombie truly is. It’s not just anyone brought back from the dead because of cases like this. These people weren’t zombified, they were basically cryogenically frozen, fixed, and then brought back to life.
There is a real life case though that is very similar to what I find truly defines a zombie, and that is rabies. If you look at rabid humans/animals, they basically lose control of their body to the virus as they slowly but surely meet their imminent death. During that period, they are pretty pissed off animals, spreading rabies through their saliva. In other words, they bite you and you’re screwed. You might not see the results immediately, but if you don’t get treatment it could kick in any time depending on where you were bitten and how long it takes for the virus to reach the brain.
I do not find what was described in that article to be representative of zombies. What we SHOULD be worried about is some massive evolution of the rabies virus that will fuck us all. Hence the underground hideouts with giant metallic air-sealed doors. Hell, let’s even throw in some booby traps in the choke points to take a few down.
Phantom-edge on 09 Jan 2009 at 3:26 am #
Well my defenition of a zombie would be that of an infected host…..maybe I skipped something,but the animals weren’t given a virus this in my opinion would mean they are simply reanimated….. I do believe there is a difference between both words. On a side note I found an interesting site reccomended by Max Brooks called the federal vampire and zombie agency…….I found some interesting things on that site…..can’t for sure conclude was is true or not…,it’s FVZA.org if anybody is interested
Phantom-edge on 09 Jan 2009 at 3:50 am #
Disregard my statement about the site last time….what I would like to know is WHAT is a zombie in general term……are they fast,slow? I would love to see a topic like this so we all have a better comprehension of what we are dealing with exactly….if it hasn’t been made already of course.
Marius on 09 Jan 2009 at 6:37 pm #
Phantom, Don’t forget the Trioxin Zeds from the RotLD documentaries. Those were developed as a chemical based zed, not viral. And the article doesn’t say that its a pure saline solution, so it could have reanimatory chemicals in it.
Cyaegha42 on 10 Jan 2009 at 7:40 am #
In all honesty, fast or slow, infected or not, an animal goes through similar patterns as we Plains Apes; rest, stalk, feed, think through next stalk. When you remove the need for rest, it becomes irrational(and yes, animals fall victim to that one all too often), and it’s patterns change. An undead animal of any variety is going to be stuck on stalk/feed mode. And that is a scary thought. I know, Undead Common Knowledge 101. But I still think that a sizable percentage of people in a panic situation, Class 2 outbreak and up, would not see animals as an immediate threat. Max Brooks addressed that with the ‘F-Cats”, and the terror they sowed. Yes, shoot an infected animal. But mange can make a cat or dog LOOK infected(and it is, just not by Solanum or Becro Mortosis), and rabies, well for those of us in the South, we’re taught pretty early on what the signs of that are. But, urban centers aren’t the natural repositories for that virus(is it a viral or bacterial infection?), and they won’t know what to look for in any case. Some people, especially those escorting children, would look for a fog as both an early warning system, and as emotional comfort fro the kids. And WOW, that was something I hadn’t thought of. Scary.. stay away from animals in an outbreak, folks.
Cyaegha42 on 10 Jan 2009 at 7:42 am #
Sorry for the rampant mis-spellings. Just woke up. fog=dog, Becro=Necro. ;)
Phantom-edge on 13 Jan 2009 at 2:02 pm #
hmm…I suppose…It’s just somewhat hard to interpret meainings and facts without truly knowing what you’re dealing with,in fact most or some ideas in this
site are based on human-based zombies or zeds(lol,reminds me of something german) but with this it kinda blows the theorem wide open making most ideas and suggestions in this site null and void….:(
Cyaegha42:beautiful despcription I don’t mind you mispelled something it makes you human,perfection is but a flaw in this world for this world is not perfect.
hmmm how you describe it,it reminds of of the 28 days/week later infected.
Marius on 13 Jan 2009 at 9:26 pm #
Phantom, very true, and most histories show a humano-Zed. But as we don’t know the causes for conversion, we can’t exlude any possiblity. Otherwise we may end up with a horde of Zombie-rats and no plan on how to protect ourselves
Cyaegha42 on 14 Jan 2009 at 7:15 am #
Z-Rats… RE Outbreak opening cinematic. It’s a plausible scenario, and one we really could do NOTHING about. Not enough cats or rat-catchers in the world, even for a small town, let alone a city. Cities are what are going to really make a Class 4 possible… tens to hundreds of millions infectable animals.. and lets not even think of an infected cockroach population. Anyone ever see Damnation Alley? Seen the movie, not read the book(it was FAR better). They stopped off for gas in a city, and mutated or whatever roaches did a number on ‘em. Anything is possible, to quote a well known Biblical author..
And thanks for the forgiveness for the mis-spells. I try not to, but my brain works ABOUT zombie level first thing in the morning(thanks, Shaun).
Angryvikingman on 14 Jan 2009 at 9:14 am #
I’m going to assume that zombies would be like in dawn of the dead. That is they can run like the wind when they see food, and shuffle about when they don’t. Generally, any virus that will effect humans won’t jump species. Then again, it can always mutate. Best to kill them all in case of an outbreak.
Chaelim of the Deep Within on 14 Jan 2009 at 10:22 am #
I’ll go get my shotgun.
Luciano on 14 Jan 2009 at 3:46 pm #
what an irony the cows are going to eat us and all the other animals are going to hunt us
Phantom-edge on 15 Jan 2009 at 3:50 am #
Irony?or sweet revenge….in a sense humans disgust me they are worse than any zed.for unlike a zed you can truly never know what a human wants of you
Cyaegha42 on 15 Jan 2009 at 7:13 am #
I beg to differ. The Romans had a saying, the question that basically defined their psyche and empire: “Cui Bono?” Loose translation; What is my gain?
We humans tend to watch out for ourselves. But times of crisis have shown remarkable tendencies towards teamwork and altruism. To quote the ad for Soylent Cola – “It varies person to person”
I’m sorry, cannibalism just seemed right….
Marius on 15 Jan 2009 at 7:18 pm #
LOL that just seems so right, and yet so wrong at the same time.
Phantom-edge on 16 Jan 2009 at 3:46 am #
LOL I was justabout to Mention cannibalism they only applies to the sence of a stabelized society…truth be told once all chips are down you not only have to worry about zed but the teamates who are salting you in your sleep
Black Ice on 16 Jan 2009 at 5:15 am #
wow…you guys have seen too many films I guess…or your government of fear is just getting too pressing…
Let me explain.
When people fear for their lives, they buy…guns, protections, etc.
Which of course is good for the government. America has been full of fear since the world trade center attacks, and the fact that the government thereafter saw threats everywhere (even if no terrorist attacks have occurred since) contribute to that atmosphere of…fear.
Another thing…the right to carry weapons.
The standard family father, gun in hand to protect his family; “Im the only one who can protect my family” Yeah sure, ok…have you ever thought what would happen if no one had the right to carry weapons? You wouldn’t need to protect them.
Zombies are a thing of nightmares and movies, although I agree when you see people in our streets today they may be pretty ressemblant to the living dead, and I understand that you guys would love to compare yourselves to the gunslinging heroes of Dawn of the Dead or Resident Evil but sorry…its not gonna happen.
I guess as my opinion differs from that of this site my comment will not even see the light, but hey, who knows.
And I insist that this is just my opinion.
Angryvikingman on 16 Jan 2009 at 8:35 am #
Yeah, if people had no right to carry guns then no one would need protecting… BULLSHIT!
I could beat you to death with a piece of pipe. A weapon is a weapon, no matter who wields it. Be it a grandma or a 20 year old punk whos breaking into granny’s house. Guns just even the playing field. If you’re a bad shot, then thats your fault. Some of the strong will ALWAYS opress the weak if given the opportunity. Granny has a right to her life, property, and hapiness just like everyone else. If you want to take my gun then you’re going to get it bullets first!
Austrailia banned guns, and every kind of violent crime at least 85% Some kinds of crime went up 300%. Like home invasions. No one had guns to stop the criminals.
Thats like saying that a person has to flee their own home if someone is breaking in. Which is the law in some states. Except florida and a few other states that have passed the Castle Doctrine, which states that a man’s/woman’s home is their castle and they have the right to defend it from invaders in any way they see fit, including lethal force. Alas I live in TN, where you can’t wound an intruder by firing only one or two shots at them. You have to empty a whole magazine into them, otherwise you weren’t in fear for your life and you should have run away like a coward.
I have the right to bear arms, no only against intruders in my home, but against my government if necessary. That’s what that amendment was added to the constitution for in the first place. To insure that the government is kept in line by its citizenry. They are accountable to us, not us to them! A man with a gun is a citizen and a patriot, a man without one is a subject.
We won independence TWICE from the british, the revolutionary war and the battle for independence were two seperate wars that were seperated by a decade. Learn your history, learn your place as a patriot, and don’t let the government tell you that you dont have rights.
AND ESPECIALLY DO NOT LET TOADS LIKE BLACK ICE TELL YOU THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT, AND THE OBLIGATION TO OWN A FIREARM FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION AND FOR THE PROTECTION OF YOUR FAMILY, RIGHTS, AND YOUR FREEDOM!
Sorry about the rant, but stupidity makes me very angry.
Angryvikingman on 16 Jan 2009 at 8:37 am #
Sorry about the grammar, spelling, and stuff that I usually proof read before submitting, but I was in a nearly blind rage…
Cyaegha42 on 16 Jan 2009 at 8:37 am #
Oh Heaven’s no… I am no Gunslinger. I recognize the probability that IF an outbreak were to occur, all my ideas would promptly disappear into the aether.
But, as our Constitution states, it is the right of citizens to bear arms. Now, I don’t have my copy of it around, but I seem to recall that state militias were mentioned quite specifically. Not private citizens. I, for one, do not own, nor will I ever own a gun. I did my time in the service, and I saw more than enough use and the consequence of use. We humans are an interesting dichotomy. Part of us wants to do the “right” thing, the other wants to save it’s own skin. And I’m off on a tangent….
My main point is this: IF an outbreak were to occur, and it is a GIGANTIC if seeing as how there are no documented cases of zombies(and don’t even mention Clarius Narcissus), no evidence of it in the animal kingdom(animals, not insects), and no scientifically plausible way to make a human or any other animal contunue operation after death, it’s all moot. It’s just a comment board on “What If” scenarios. I like these places, it allows me to indulge in my more fantastic lines of thought and expression. “What If” fuels mankind’s hopes and fears. It came up with the nuclear age, and spaceflight. It also came up with weaponized ebola, and cluster bombs.
Just sit back, wait, and watch. It’s all you can do. But, and remember this is a but, if you start seeing news clips about families devoured by each other, or active-duty(no national guard)military quarantines in townships and population centers, get ready. Something will be happening, and it may only be a matter of time until it’s shuffling to your door.
Lord, I love “what if”.
And I agree with you, it’s an opinion, and yours did see light here. I’d be interested in further discussion. After all, a dose of skepticism is healthy, a sort of vaccine against fanatsy running amok. Keep commenting, it’s appreciated and listened to.
Cyeagha
Cyaegha42 on 16 Jan 2009 at 8:45 am #
To Angryvikingman: Never apologize for your beliefs. They are what make you unique, and you should never be ashamed of them. As for being a subject, there are other ways to be a citizen, other ways to fight for freedom and independence. After all, while protesting, wildcat strikes, and insurrection aided the IWW, it was their propoganda that eventually led to unionization across America. While the Wobblies faded, their legacy did not. Writing, singing, any number of other actions can and are viewed as counter-culture, and as such, a theat. So, while the 15 year old carjacker with the Glock is dangerous, a properly place column of text can be just as deadly, in a metaphorical sense. Don’t be fooled, intelligence is a weapon. Why do you think dictators and tyrants(in the modern definition) go after the intelligentsia? Because they fear them more than armed partisans.
One noteable example comes from the Revolutionary Way: “Don’t Tread On Me”.. still heard today.
Keep true to yourself, as the ancient Oracles were so fond of saying.
Cyaegha
Cyaegha42 on 16 Jan 2009 at 8:49 am #
And to Black Ice: as I said, keep posting, too. I welcome well-thought out and skeptical writings. A sharp mind, and one brave enough to post even knowing a reactionary response was nigh-on inevitable. Good Form, and I salute you. Keep posting, I look forward to it.
Remember folks, one half imagination, one half pragmatism. It works.
Angryvikingman on 16 Jan 2009 at 5:58 pm #
The second amendment from the original constitution, and copies sent to and ratified by the states says,
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
In colonial times, a militia was a group of citizens that volunteered. They weren’t early forms of national guard units, they were just regular citizens. It doesn’t say that the army or national guard replaces the citizen militia, or that since we have a government military, we cant have weapons. “the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” is the important part of that sentence. It means that people themselves are responsible for their own self and common defense.
Black Ice on 16 Jan 2009 at 6:00 pm #
Just to clear a point with the dude that has anger management problems (jk lol dont take it seriously!)…I never stated you were not allowed to carry firearms, indeed that was the whole point of my post. The thing is countries where guns are illegal dont have school shootouts every couple of months, and you can say what you like about Australia, the USA have the biggest crime rate in the world, and don’t we all wonder why.
Another point…you say the government lets you carry firearms to use against them if neccesary…i dont understand. Surely if you attempted to murder Obama tomorow the government wouldnt approve, and if caught you would be throw into jail…Could you explain what you mean?
Also being a patriot is defending ones country, not using weapons against it. And I dont really see how you defend it.
Cyaegha, nice to see an open minded person…to anyone who didnt understand, im not judging you, im stating what I think…I thought this was the purpose of comments. And thanks for explaining the site a bit, I thought you were seriously considering zombies becoming reality.
As I said, the people in our streets are looking more and more like the living dead from movies, no smiles, no hello’s, no good day’s…I tend to think, if you like life, smile and show it, if not, commit suicide. I know, thats a bit harsh ;)
Thanks to the moderators too, didnt think that post would get through, u proved me wrong, which puts you a step ahead.
About this testing on animals…well. Id love to try it out on the people who put the poor dogs through it really. Just a little taste of what theyre doing to other living beings really. The fact that scientists are playing with the lives of human beings as if they were toys is just another bad sign for me really. If God exists (no one start a religious debate, thats just useless, everyone believes what he likes), I doubt he wouldl approve of it. I think it will not do us any good.
Cyaegha42 on 16 Jan 2009 at 6:16 pm #
In response to Angryvikingman: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with blood of tyrants and patriots” I mangled it, but I believe it was Jefferson. And gun control laws, well, we can find a different forum for that particular issue. It’s thorny, enraging, and tragic all at once. And that’s my two bits on gun control.
In response to Black Ice: Yes, the people have begun to take on undead-like characteristics. When I go to a store, I almost NEVER have a conversation without initiating it myself, even with the tellers. It’s a sad part of the way humanity is evolving, going from a nuclear family unit to a fragmented society(as evidenced by our last several Administrations. After all, used to be you needed the Electoral College to approve you to be President.) And as for Zombies being real, it would indeed be a nightmare come to life. Death should be permanent, in my opinion. To paraphrase, it’s nature’s way of saying it’s time to go.
And animal testing: as much as I hate it(I own several of several types), until technology gives us a viable alternative(such as the lab-on-a-chip, or a complete virtual human, down to the DNA), we have no alternative other than testing on animals. The human propensity for experimentation on itself is shameful, and we don’t WANT to go down that road again. Do some Wikipedia research on the topics.. the results will chill you to the bone.
You know, some of those individuals SHOULD be zombiefied. Let them shuffle around until Mother Nature takes them apart, piece by piece, until nothing is left. That was true evil committed in the name of “science” and “learning”, when in reality it was simply evil given toys to play with, and the freedom to do so. And make no mistake, we are still doing these terrible things today. The responsible parties have simply gotten better at hiding it.
I’m just here to talk, all. I endorse no one side, or another. I just want a forum for discourse and, hopefully, learning. On both people, and possibility.
Cyaegha Out.
Cyaegha42 on 16 Jan 2009 at 6:20 pm #
Just as a quick CYA, the first part, the one with the Jefferson quote, in NO WAY endorses armed insurrection against the nation in which you live. Sedition is not a viable alternative to civil action, and is only a path to blood. Very few coup de’tat have been ultimately successful, with ours being one remarkable exception. I do not support a revolution through blood. Only through thought and change in the human heart and mind. Eventually, we’ll get there, it’s just a matter of time.
Cyaegha, covering his a**
ZAC Admin on 16 Jan 2009 at 6:26 pm #
While we appreciate the enthusiasm in which our topics are debated, please keep them civil and on topic. Remember that this site is about the undead, not your personal beliefs on gun laws, etc. If you would like to debate that, feel free to visit the vast number of other sites where that is their purpose. Further discussion to that end will be removed.
Now, let’s get back to the topic at hand.
Marius on 16 Jan 2009 at 7:57 pm #
ZETH, Zombies for the Ethical Treatment of Humans, does not endorse the creation of zombie animals. Remember folks, it’s Graaaaaaaains not Braaaaains.
Of course Peta on the other hand might go gaga over it, turn about being fair play and all of that.
Anecdote on 16 Jan 2009 at 10:15 pm #
The link seems to be broken. Is there another reliable source for the article?
Angryvikingman on 17 Jan 2009 at 6:09 pm #
Sigh, people never understand. Everyone has a misconstrued sense of their rights and duty, but I won’t comment on it further.
Peta and groups like that should be fed to their own animals. If you shoot every animal you see after the zombiepocalypse, then you run less of a chance of having infected animals in your area. As I said before, most of the time anything that will affect humans won’t affect animals. Just kill them all to be safe.
Cyaegha42 on 17 Jan 2009 at 6:59 pm #
I can bring up a few that jumped TO humans, and then mutated, and jumped BACK: the hemmoraghic fevers. Ebola, Marburg, and their ilk. I’m not a fan of just offing animals, but I’ll tell you this: anything that LOOKS like a problem either gets a wide berth, or a round to the head. Just to be sure.
Angryvikingman on 17 Jan 2009 at 11:37 pm #
Well, animals are pretty stupid. You can set traps of all kinds to rid yourself animals. Then you don’t have to kill them yourself, but you’ll eventually have to remove the carcasses. Unless you like the smell. Could keep other people away.
Cyaegha42 on 18 Jan 2009 at 6:43 am #
I have a cat that can turn on a TV, and then uses the remote to watch the weather channel. And I used to have this Labrador that could not only open doors, but GARAGE doors. Animals are far more intelligent than we are, excepting the shark vs. zombie fight in ‘Zombi”. I give them just about the same intelligence level as a human schoolchild. And in some cases, more. And the complex communication between cetaceans is quite thought provoking. Look up some of the new HD work on dolphin communication. One article I read compare their language as almost pictographic, which does qualify as abstract thought, which is a pre-qualifier for sapience.
There’s a thought all: Zombie sea creatures.. only time you COULD club a seal to death and get away with it. And with that, I consign myself to the hot place.
And as for trapping, never been good at it, best I ever got was with that old Lab hunting raccoons. And that was, geez, twenty years ago.. never did get that one giant bas***d. But I digress.
Err on the side of caution with animals. The can, and will, surprise you, especially if their minds have been altered by some process. I mean, look at rabies.. ick.
Angryvikingman on 18 Jan 2009 at 12:22 pm #
You can trap any small game animal with bait and a long enough shoe string. Yeah, they’re geniuses. Spring traps, snares, and even spear traps can be made using a shoe string and stick. All of these traps will work for anything ranging in size from squirrels to people. The methods and amount of shoe string will vary(lol), but it can be done. Even zombie animals will be driven to feed, and considering their diet, there should be plenty of bait. You can even catch rabbits with the entrails of other rabbits. I’m speaking of using the entrails as bait, not as the trap mechanism itself. Of course growing up in rural middle TN I’ve seen my fair share of odd animal habits. And yes, rabies… ick. Shot my fair share of rabies carriers. Never pretty, and especially not when its a skunk. Watch out for armadillos too. Not only can they carry rabies, but they can also carry the virus that causes leprosy.
Phantom-edge on 19 Jan 2009 at 6:00 am #
Whoa…what happened when I left?anywho aside from the gun banning(which I completely support….I have my reasons and would not like to discuss at the moment) and other whatnots.I personally belive in
The horrific progress science is taking and the fact that man fears death…so my conclusion is not if but when a zed outbreak would come true.hhhmmm….I still pray that if animal could become infected they would be able to keep most of their primal insticts.
Cyaegha42 on 19 Jan 2009 at 7:12 am #
But the primal instincts are what make them, in a fashion, scarier. Take an infected wolf, for example. One on one, with a gun, still a risky bit. But what if infected wolves(and dogs, it’s what this thread is about) kept their pack instinct? I’m NOT taking on a zombie wolf pack. Sorry, climbing a tree, or finding somewhere to hide till they are gone for DAYS, if not weeks….
And the leprosy angle.. the way it affects the immune system, and our/their skin and organs.. kind of like a zombification(ick, horrible word). But rational thought still remains. Now, throw a rabies infection on to a leprosy infection: BAM! Almost-zombie like characteristics.
And yeah, rabies is awful.. I’ve had to put several raccoons down for it. Usually, the little buggers can be friendly, but not with that. The sheer rage in them.. it was unsettling, at the least.
Phantom-edge on 20 Jan 2009 at 10:08 am #
well the first instict of an animal that is NOT tame is to simply stay away from
human society,true they are infected but they will still hunt their regular prey until otherwise.TRUE,there are hostile creatures out there,but 90% ONLY attack when threatened.the one thing i do fear though would be zed crows,they eat flesh already,the infection will just make them eat living organisms and faster..i assume…..but then again in zed world,it’s dangerous to assume,…but then what else do you have against uncertainty.
A. McGuillicutty on 20 Jan 2009 at 11:01 am #
Make sure you all have a firm grip on your chosen implement of re-death people. This could be the moment we’ve all been dreading. Although at this moment I don’t believe that science/medicine could revive a corpse(dead for days or weeks) I can’t rule anything out for the future.
-Be safe
-Be smart
-Be ready
Marius on 20 Jan 2009 at 6:04 pm #
Maybe Armadillos will bring about the Zombipocolypse. I mean if the rabies and leprosy virii mutated together. Thats pretty close to zedhood. I know its not the undeath of it, but close enough to count
Forealms on 24 Jan 2009 at 10:59 pm #
If nothing else, at least we know that the only current method for animal zombification is through human testing. As long as we can keep crazy, high, or drunk scientists from taking this research too far, we shouldn’t have to worry about Snuggles and Mr. Scruffy coming back to bite us (literally).
Marius on 27 Jan 2009 at 9:13 pm #
Yeah, but that means we’d have to shut down the university at huntsville, redneck biogenitics engeneers. Those people worry me.
Ryan on 30 Jan 2009 at 8:54 am #
Isn’t bringing the dogs back to life after an extended ammount of time considerable as necromancy?
That being said I can finally get to the fun part of my post. Since I saw alot of second amendment discussion I figured I would throw in the actual reason it exists, I never saw anyone stating it clearly in the above posts. It exists simply for the purpose of overthrowing the government if it were to become too opressive (i.e. trying to void any of the first 10 amendments) and for defending your home and country in the event of an invasion. Again I don’t know if anyone else pointed this out or not because i only read about 3/4 of the page.
As for human trials of this nature, the people who are doing the freezing shouldn’t be given a tasate of their own medicine in the event of something backfiring a valueable chunk of information could be lost. Yes I’m all for acceptable losses. Besides I would voulunteer to be a lab rat for something like that if I thought that I would be able to live it down afterwards, but bad things happen to me.
Zombie2012 on 04 Feb 2009 at 1:39 am #
I wrote about this some time ago (link in my name). Yes, it seems that in the good natured acts of self preservation and life extension research, science may be going too far. Long life is great, but at what cost? How far can a dog decay before it’s brought back to life?
Yeah, I totally believe dogs can be zombies, perhaps any mammal depending on the nature of the infection. If its reanimated corpses, we’re all screwed. If its a rabies-like viral outbreak, we may be able to contain it for a little while and there would be less chance of cross-species contamination.
However, either undead or viral infections may selectively target only humans — at least, I thought so until I read about the dog research.
Angryvikingman on 04 Feb 2009 at 8:25 am #
Seems like we need a new topic to argue over…
Cyaegha42 on 04 Feb 2009 at 11:07 am #
I don’t know about argue… perhaps a re-animated debate? Sorry, couldn’t resist. :)
Angryvikingman on 04 Feb 2009 at 6:09 pm #
Yeah. I dunno about you all, but seems like this would be better as a forum style board. I know we can comment on the stories and whatnot, but maybe make a side bar that tells what articles were last commented on, and by whom. That way we can keep the “debates” going instead of having to pour over pages of information just to see what was commented on last. Just a suggestion. I like the look of the site and its functionality, I just like to stay updated.
Dalton on 07 Feb 2009 at 11:04 pm #
So in regards to the article…. aside from being freaky as hell, it seems that, although it could and now can happen (the dead being brought back to life) are they to be considered the living dead? And I’m not a zombie expert or anything but as far as I’m aware the infection that reanimates the said person or animal turning them into a zombie is contagious is it not? So i guess what I’m wondering is, is there any way in which this would be contagious? (I don’t want to go back up and find the post) but one of the members mentioned something in the article (broken link by the way) that said some of the dogs had side effects of some sorts and it didn’t get into further details. So maybe they are infectious and we really are screwed a lot sooner than any of us are ready for!!
Lakota on 07 Feb 2009 at 11:28 pm #
Wow, this is foolish and absurd.
Yes, it is quite a magnificent breakthrough in science but because of this the world may go into an apocalypse.
One small accident and we’re all screwed.
Although these are movies, they all involve accidents in science.
Resident Evil with the T-Virus, 28 Weeks later with the rage virus and the small kiss that changed the life of the UK forever…It all surrounds scientific accidents. If one of those dogs accidentally bites or scratches a scientist and it turns out it gets passed down to humans, the undead may as well attack another human and cause the virus to spread.
James on 20 Feb 2009 at 7:21 pm #
WE
ARE
IN
NOSE
DEEP
CRAP!
I almost died on my holiday to scotland due to the miges (Extremely small mosquito type things) if one of them bit a zombie and got infected, and then desided to go on a joy-fly to say, lower england and bites another human, we’re all dead. infection would travel alot faster than anyone could predict and i’m blagging this for my book =D
Logan Willis on 22 Feb 2009 at 4:29 pm #
Couldn’t help but look at this. Where did this info come from? And if they’re finding ways to re-animate the dead, then why aren’t we figuring how to control the re-animated or figure out a helpful process in making the “Zombies”** behave in the ways they normally would? I find this very interesting though.
** In quotes because like somebody said above, there is no real definition for a zombie now.
properedness on 12 Mar 2009 at 10:08 am #
well that sounds more like Frankenstein than zombie – that dog needs electric shock
maybe in the future we can see Zombies develop intelligence and demands equality – like in Shaun lol
kuntul on 12 Mar 2009 at 10:11 am #
sounds more like frankenstein, especially he needs electric shock to reanimated
FreddeX on 05 Jun 2009 at 2:16 pm #
WOW that is cool! :D I agree with Zombie Fetus this is a major breakthrought in medical science but i doubt this will cause any zombie outbreak (no shit if you ask me :P).