Zombie E&E
No matter the level of preparation, no matter the thought behind your holdout the time will come when you must make a move to safer ground or push for a combined offensive with others to completely eradicate the threat.
Firstly before you can move you must have a coordinated plan to go to a particular place, preferably two or more if your first destination is overrun or you loss communications with them during the move. Secondly is to have enough supplies set aside and ready to go at a moment’s notice. Preferably have a place with multiple exits and redundant sets of gear to go so even if one zone is over run you sit have supplies and weapons to bug out with.
Also when on the move there are several things to consider, not the least is the need for rest. If you are a walking zombie then you will be of little use in a fight against them. Also those unrested may miss telltale signs that you are walking into to a zone that you may never walk away from.
1. Try to sleep at night. The human body has adapted over millennia to sleep during the night. Regardless of the reason keep to relatively normal since the undead hold the night.
2. Stay up high. Zeds can’t climb, and even if they do manage to get up towards you the racket should be enough to wake the dead. Also placing a few booby-trap to alert you and distract them.
3. Also when resting noise discipline should be observed. Noise can attract unwanted attention, and at night they can travel even father then in the day.
4. Also if you happen to be have fellow survivors with you then you should set up a watch system so that you can lessen the chance that you will become that evenings meal.
Since no two places will require the same gear and no two escapes will unfold the same, even if they end in the same place. The majority of pieces of equipment and supplies will be decided by those fleeing for safety. Nevertheless the most important piece of advice that I can afford is to plan for every possible contingency and be ready at a moment to run if the stakes fall out of your favor.
Comments (67)
Sharpshooter on 26 May 2009 at 9:32 pm #
very good observations and i whole-heartedly agree with them. but a question: what does E&E mean?
3ID on 26 May 2009 at 10:16 pm #
Escape and Evasion yes this will be useful agaisnt Zeds and Humans alike
GSP on 28 May 2009 at 12:27 pm #
great read! hopefully up in canada it’ll get cold enough to freeze those buggers! and we can just hunker down and smash them when their frozen…
Sharpshooter on 28 May 2009 at 9:40 pm #
@ 3ID
well see thats just obvious now. i feel stupid hahahaha.
Sharpshooter on 29 May 2009 at 1:53 pm #
I just realized something. These tips can only be used in certain cituations. Such as what kind of zed. If it’s something along the lines of 28 Days Later then they can climb latters but not much else. I Am Legend zacks and well it appeared they could climb just about anything. But if they are stupid Night Of The Living Dead zombies then these tips are great.
3ID on 29 May 2009 at 2:43 pm #
If they are I am Legend zeds we are screwed the 28 days later ones would be ok because you can shoot them in the chest like normal human and kill them but night of the living dead zeds would in my opinion be the best you can out smart them the best also they don’t run think or climb lattes
Angryvikingman on 29 May 2009 at 6:26 pm #
Its a pity that the Seals dont offer S.E.R.E. training as a civilian course. (Search, evade, rescue, escape)
I did the airborne assault course at Ft. Campbell, that was fun. Because of my military connections I got to do a lot of the stuff the other civilians didnt get to do.
I would love to do a lot of that kind of stuff, but my wife won’t let me join the military short of the National Guard. There aren’t really any guard units here that peak my interests though.
Dunno, maybe I should start a survivalist training school that offers courses that are taught by the military, so that people like me can get 2 weeks of training in things that are essential to surviving things that could possibly be coming.
3ID on 29 May 2009 at 6:55 pm #
Hey you could pitch the idea to Xe (Black Waters new name) they might be interested they do a hole bunch of military training for civilians it coast a pretty penny though i looked at there pistol AR classes
Angryvikingman on 30 May 2009 at 8:52 am #
Well, I could do that. Also, I could get all of my ex-military friends and throw a school together. I only know one navy seal, and he is too old to be tossing people around or doing practical demonstrations. I know a lot about wilderness survival, have some assault training, and combine that with all the things that my friends know from spending time in afghanistan and Iraq, and I think that we could do some pretty good training. Do it for like $500 a week and its not insanely unaffordable. The people would just have to pay for their room and board, and bring their own weapons and ammo. If I could get 10 students a week that’d be $5000. If I had 4 instructors, that’d be $1250 a week for each of us, which isnt bad.
3ID on 30 May 2009 at 3:59 pm #
true hope you have the land for it that is a big part of the school and would you do like learn to live of the wild stuff like Baer Grills or like military E&E or a hybrid of both maybe with a tactical survivor man type aspect
Jay on 31 May 2009 at 5:11 am #
Angryvikingman: thats a good idear if you set that up to teach people, most people nowa days know nothing about the outdoors. 3ID bear girlls is grate does everything no other would ex sas tho you can get some good tips of him.
Jay on 31 May 2009 at 5:20 am #
Has anyone heard about that virus called ‘lujo’ thats in africa, it causes bleeding like the ebola virus and it’s killed 4 out of 5 people so far. I just read about it the other day.
FreddeX on 31 May 2009 at 5:22 am #
E&E seems to fit me like a glove! :D Becuase my survival plan is to escape out into the wilderness and live of the land and stay higly mobile, maybe set up several places where i can return to if one place gets overrun, you know, like the inuits and several other peoples did before. :D
Angryvikingman on 31 May 2009 at 9:21 am #
Land isnt really a problem. I know people who have hundreds of acres. They dont use it for anything. They wouldnt mind if I took people camping and shooting on the property. I would show people how to trap game, process the carcass for eating, ect. Build shelter from available materials, how to not freeze to death outdoors, how to build fire without matches or a lighter. After the “students” showed that they possess the proper skills, then we’ll procede to S.E.R.E. type training. After that, then spend a day on marksmanship. Shooting up close, and at ranges over 100 yards. However, I wouldn’t introduce the torture aspect into the training. Not that I would mind beating the crap out of total strangers, but I don’t think that people would give me good word of mouth advertising. And if I put it in the brochure, then that would definately drive people off. LOL.
Sharpshooter on 01 Jun 2009 at 3:43 pm #
i’m curious how many people actually have martial arts training on this website. please post your school and how many years you’ve been doing it
ninjutsu- kashiwa bunjinkan- almost 2 years now
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 01 Jun 2009 at 4:26 pm #
An E&E school would be very cool, if the lessons worked. The only problem that I could foresee would be that it may attract the crazies that are out there, but I’m just the pessimistic type to say that.
As for martial arts training I’ve got fifteen years under my belt, no pun intended. I’ve trained in Okinawan Kempo, Tae Kwon Do, and a little cross training in Goru(not sure if that is spelled right but that is the phonetic pronunciation). Trust when I say my flexibility likely a little on the crazy side, and I’ve nearly brought grown men to their knees when I’ve done a split.
But, the question that must be asked when martial arts training is brought forth is why does one choose to learn it, and you young grasshopper, Sharpshooter, why do you train?
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
taekwondoeman on 02 Jun 2009 at 4:27 pm #
Taekwondoe- kim school of taekwondoe- 8 years
this is off topic a little but if u know martial arts and u r good at it, i think it would come in handy durin a zombie outbreak cuz most of the action is goin to be close range
Jay on 02 Jun 2009 at 4:33 pm #
Ive trained in the army was in there for about 4 year’s then came out of the p.w.r.r so ive got a fair few skill’s behind me.
Angryvikingman on 02 Jun 2009 at 6:09 pm #
Bushi Kai Karate-2 years
Kung Fu- 1 year
Tae Kwon Do – 1 year
ARMA German zwiehander sword training – 2 years
(Included grappling and knife fighting)
MMA – Most of my life.
Due to my size, speed, and agility, I never had to train in lower skill group classes. The day I started I sparred with a 2nd degree black belt and won. After that I only fought that black belt or my instructor.
My mother was in martial arts for most of her life, and taught me at home before I received any real structured training.
I enjoyed Tae Kwon Do the most as an unarmed combat form.
I weigh over 300 lbs. and I can still stand in a doorway and kick over my head and hit the top of the door frame. Havent done any oriental martial arts in almost a decade. I’m crazy good with a blade of just about any type.
Sharpshooter on 02 Jun 2009 at 11:59 pm #
@ Kain
I train because i’m good at it. It’s what comes naturaly, I’m not book smart, hell i’m not really smart in any sence of the word, though I’m not stupid either.
I train because when shit hits the proverbal fan I want to be able to walk away from it generaly unscathed so I can see my loved ones at the end of the day.
I train because when fuckers think I’m an easy target I take them down and make DAMN sure they dont get back up again.
Caleb on 04 Jun 2009 at 3:50 pm #
I was tae kwon do for about a year when i was about 13, so that accounts to nothing, but i know how to shoot and operate most guns, I’d like to learn Hand and a half or German swordsmanship, but i live in Oklahoma, so I’m kinda out of luck unless someone here knows a place, but I’ll probably pick up a book or two, but i Doubt it’ll be the same, but hey it’s something as opposed to nothing so wish me luck with that. But for my survival, I’m mostly planning on relying on my group to help with their special niches, like Colins a generally good scrapper and marshal is well, ya kinda have to know the guy, but he’s definately more ready for a zombie apocalypse than 90%of people trying to be prepared for one. I am pretty smart, myself and can make chain mail so the suit I have can help with bites, it’s not too heavy and allows a lot of movement, course’ not getting bit is preferable to relying on the suit for sure. and if you’re looking for a sword, i can talk your ear off about what to look for, my personal favorite against zeds would be a generation 2 sword from armsofvalor.com or if you want to look up reviews for swords by this, and other companies i recommend sword-buyers-guide.com
andrew on 04 Jun 2009 at 11:10 pm #
yeah hi, ima 17 year old student from australia and i have to say for starters that the whole subjects about zombies is just a little bit farfetched but, people beleive in god and thats just a silly. though, i do have my concerns about the ZA and i was wondering about a little theory i have going, dont laugh…Ok, you know how swine flu has everyone worried and how its infecting people all across the world (about 400+ already in Australia alone) i was thinking.. whats the chance that swine flu could be a man made virus created by the government to make people sick so that once there is a large enough number of sick people, they will sell the antitode to make money (to recover from the economic crisis). this is a little bit scary to me was somthing simular happens in Resident evil, not to the same scale but like it anyway.
I dont want to sound like a nut but what if thoughs who have died of swine flu come back as zombies? also because the “swine flu” viruis originally began with animals, does this mean we might have zombie animlas and that the pigs consumed by pople may have caught the disease.
andrew on 04 Jun 2009 at 11:14 pm #
sorry for the bad spelling and “word fails” in there, the writing goes off screen, my bad
another mike on 05 Jun 2009 at 2:46 am #
Good book I picked up the other day. US Army Survival, Evasion, and Recovery. That publishing house has many books along those lines. Most of that book is review for the trained outdoorsman; navigation, first aid, building shelters, procuring food and water, etc. At 112 pages it’s packable, but it’s too glossy to use as tinder or latrine paper. You’d be amazed at how important that last feature can be.
Martial arts? Started in taekwondo, added hapkido because I felt traditional TKD was missing too much. Got into Goju-ryu in college and finally circled around to Jeet Kune Do. Even picked up some boxing along the way.
DirtyDeeds on 05 Jun 2009 at 9:35 am #
Wow, AngryViking….you seem perfect all around. We should all strive to be just like you. You would be one scary viking zombie if any zombies actually had the skills to get a bite on you.
I’m just kidding of course….or am I?
New Scenario:
You are surrounded by zombies…what would you do? What would AngryViking do?
Sharpshooter on 05 Jun 2009 at 12:45 pm #
well id choose the samurai death: aka suicide
Angryvikingman on 06 Jun 2009 at 4:00 pm #
Never said I was perfect, but I am damn good.
DirtyDeeds on 08 Jun 2009 at 5:26 am #
I’m just playing withu…id prolly be just as good as u…but I got bills and shit
Gabriel on 09 Jun 2009 at 2:22 pm #
E&E sounds great, and I think the goal should be elevated mobile bases set up in rural wooded areas. These corpses are going to run out of food in the major city areas eventually, and there is not a reasonable way I can think of to track their migratory patterns after we loose access to satellite photography. Living in trees offers many tactical advantages, and one great disadvantage which I think the smart survivor may be able to use against any well placed zombie horde- everything burns.
Sharpshooter on 09 Jun 2009 at 11:19 pm #
two words people: zombie midgets.
i just thought of this i mean dude midgets are real so it could totaly happen, one finds it’s way into a vent shaft in the place you happen to be staying at and you hear a noise, dont bother to look down and BAM he bites your nuts off.
Hugh on 17 Jun 2009 at 5:42 am #
Angryvikingman
If u plan to engage zombies at close range I would advise you purchase the correct gear to prevent arterial sprays spreading the infection.
Not a problem for me, I’ve got ‘em from miles away with an IED. (watch out for tripwires everyone)
Angryvikingman on 17 Jun 2009 at 7:26 am #
Not like you cant get a gas mask and tyvek suit for about $20. Some chain mail on the upper body and neck and double layer with some kevlar and BDUs on the lower body with some steel toe boots to finish it all off. Thats pretty decent zombie armor, and a barrier to the infection. Now, Gimme my two hander and my kukris, and I’ll be just fine as long as I don’t get pinned down. I took 4 live people in sword practice at once, so I think I can handle a few unarmed zombies. Get a few people trained with a blade, and they can take out a group of zombies without making much of a racket. Trust me, you’ve never felt more alive, than when you’re fighting for your life. As much as I LOVE GUNS, swords and knives don’t run out of bullets.
HVACBALLA on 21 Jun 2009 at 2:51 am #
Well, training would be a fundamental aspect, but the first thing I would do is find suitable gear After securing the basic needs, I’d spend the majority of my time stidying books about major skills like electrician, carpenting, plumbing, welding, auto mechanics and flying planes and helicopters a really great way for surveying a wide area quikly etc.. I know electricity would become scarce so solar panels would come in handy.
——————————First Vital Steps——————————–
(1)Transportation:
Pickup Truck-With bed cover to protect your gear from Zeds.
Minivan-Good on gas and holds multiple passengers.
H2 Hummer-Good for converting to armored supply or escape.
(2)Army Supply Store:
Protective Clothing-Very vital to protect against rips and tears from Zeds. Also helmets with face shields will be needed to protect against moist bacteria( girls dad’s eyes in 28 days later).
Weapons- An absolute must, if you can find silencers that would help for stealth
(3) Medical supplies: I have asthma so, Id have to just raid every pharmacy I find. ^_^. I know there’s know stopping a man made virus, just look at HIV-Aids. But pharmacies would have to be raided, also could be a good place to hold up in.
(3)Food: Non perishables would ultimately be the most consumed.
(4)Power Tools: A must have for converting houses and vehicles into armament.
Also wiring a MegaPhone to all the vehicles would go a long way to keeping you safe when trying to rescue healthy people out of houses also it’ll keep scary dumb asses from being near you, because if they’re too dumb to know you there to rescue them then you can count on them slowing you down.
(5)Feul reserves: Better find several Tanker Trucks and take them to a secure location, a job for 2 or more people becuase you’d need tranportation back from your storage spot.
(6)Fortress: A good fortress in my opinion would be a ware house, it’s very large, could hold lots of food weapons and Tanker trucks. It’d be great for Starting a new community.
(7)Girls-Optional, last thing on the list, but if you take care of the first things then keeping a woman would be easy. Dont wanna end up talking to manaquins like in I AM LEGEND.
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What have I forgotten, anyone? Also training people for money would go against your safety, cuz the more help you have the safer you’d be. karate classes only cost $100-$200 per month and money would be obsolete so why do that to yourself?
Angryvikingman on 22 Jun 2009 at 6:46 am #
Well, until z-day actually happens, training people to survive would be a good thing. Since z-day hasnt occured, money isnt obselete, and I need it. Besides, I could teach you more about fighting in a week than you’ll learn in several months of karate lessons. They dont teach takedowns and killing blows to noobs in karate. They dont teach you weapons until several years into training either. Where I would teach you knife/hatchet/machete fighting in a day or two. At least enough to save your life in a bad situation. Weapons training is also a must. Firearms and stealth weapons training is a must for survival. In five minutes I could teach you how to silence an enemy sentry in 3 different ways. Most martial arts are about self defense. Learning to defend yourself is fine, but learning how to kill is a different thing all together, and scarily easy to learn.
Dave on 26 Jun 2009 at 2:28 pm #
I think moving will depend completely on the situation e.g. did the army get up any roadblocks? Are there hostile humans to avoid?
If you’re on foot in Z-populated areas you have to remain undetected. I doubt anyone could handle a horde of Z’s especially when not fortified. This is no computer game with HP, respawns and absurd amounts of ammo. Realistically you’re only going to be able to deal with strays so you need a silenced, ranged weapon to avoid either yourself or it attracting attention.
On the opposite extreme a vehicle will make noise but provided the route is clear you should be gone before they can react. A proper 4×4 can get you out of a lot of trouble, expect mess on the roads. It also means being able to take ample gear, you don’t know what you are heading into so just taking what you can carry may be insufficient. If you have a group take multiple vehicles so you have redundancy. If you come across once-populated areas park up and scope it out first.
Here in UK petrol and diesel cars are both popular, I’m not sure whether to take some of both to enable making use of both fuel resources, or stick with one so you have a single fuel reserve.
Angryvikingman you could make it a business but you’re going to have to show credentials to get people in the door (and so they take it at least a little seriously). But remember probably half of the money that comes in will come out: insurance, expenses, equipment, not forgetting taxes…
3ID on 28 Jun 2009 at 1:40 pm #
What kind of silent ranged weapon can you get in the UK i now here if i wanted i could get a suppressed 50 cal. rifle if i wanted because over there the gun laws are strict, well if you are in the Armed Forces you could get some nice gear but the other thing about the UK it an Island you can seal it off pretty easily if you find out what the infection is and were it started, you can make Engalnd a Fortress Island if you have a enough time and your parliament isn’t a bunch of idiots
Sharpshooter on 29 Jun 2009 at 3:08 pm #
honestly silenced weapons in my opinion are rather useless when it comes to hunting zed-heads. if you’ve got enough ammo to shoot one then you’ve got enough ammo to shoot plenty more. I’m curious to see how many people here are just full of shit. “oh yeah i’ve got an entire fortress and plenty of weapons.” I can actually LIST AND SHOW PICTURES of my weapons and myself. i mean seriously people dont bullshit on here it wont get you anywhere at all, you’ll just have a bunch of people run an IP address on you and show up at your house asking for shelter when shit hits the fan.
3ID on 29 Jun 2009 at 7:57 pm #
i have weapons plenty of ammo for each but the fortress i do not have, i have scouted out a few ideal locals for the future when it comes to suppressed weapons it is going to be a field tested thing you cant tell till you use one in the field that’s about it and for people that show up to my house looking for food and shelter they are going to get a 223 in the knee cap
Angryvikingman on 29 Jun 2009 at 9:20 pm #
Supressors are actually pretty useful. I could use the one I have for my P22 and subsonic rounds and you literally couldnt hear it in the next room. They’d be great for discrete room clearing. The guys at my local class 3 shop have them ranging up to .308, and they’re just as quiet. I’d hate to draw a few hundred zombies down on me for not using my supressor. Trust me, it’d probably save your life. I have a LOT of ammo, but only a few magazines for my pistols, so I’d have to take the more stealthy route. If I can kill a zombie almost silently and it keeps me out of arms reach or biting distance, I’m going to choose that supressor every time. As for people “bullshitting” I’ve posted links to my pictures on my own personal site, and videos of my son shooting. So, I’m not among the bullshitters. If I could remove my stairs, I’d have a pretty good fort. Of the four apartments on my floor, I’m the only person living in one.
skylar on 30 Jun 2009 at 5:07 am #
u always must have a back-up plan or u might b dead by dawn!gun’s will run out of ammo always bring a knigh or somthin sharp
Angryvikingman on 02 Jul 2009 at 9:50 pm #
So if I did a free, 3-5 day survival course next summer, who would be interested? Hell, depending on my work schedule, I could maybe do it in september or october of this year. Of course, I’d have to limit the class size to maybe ten people. I’ll have to work up a list of needed items, and suitable substitutions in case what I suggest is cost prohibitive.
Things you would learn:
How to hunt, trap, and prepare game.
How to survive in the wild with just your mind.
How to build a fire with various methods.
How to shoot a rifle, shotgun, and pistol.
How to stay warm and build a shelter when you can’t use fire.
I guess for an example of how to prepare game and make certain that eveyone has an animal to practice on, I’d get some live rabbits.
Everyone would have to kill and prepare their own food for the night. That’ll definately be on the first night. A way to sort the men from the boys, so to speak. If you wuss out on killing a rabbit, then you definately couldnt do what was needed when the time comes, and you’ll be sent home immediately.
Angryvikingman on 02 Jul 2009 at 9:54 pm #
BTW, I live in middle TN, near Nashville. If you have to travel, I can recommend places to stay the night before, or after the event that don’t cost an arm and a leg. Feel free to email me at angryvikingman@yahoo.com if you’re interested.
Angryvikingman on 05 Jul 2009 at 11:50 am #
I posted some videos from yesterday’s 4th of July celebration.
You can watch them on my youtube channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAngryvikingman
They’re all of me shooting guns. Mua ha ha ha ha!
Sharpshooter on 06 Jul 2009 at 1:19 pm #
ok. Angeryvikingman, it’s people like you that screw the rest of us over. You post videos of doing random stupid things that involve fire arms so then the president wants to take away our right to even have them. Sure it’s fun to blow through a couple of clips at a shooting range but making a video of you duel weilding automatics is just an all around BAD IDEA. Dude take them off youtube.
Angryvikingman on 06 Jul 2009 at 5:22 pm #
How am I screwing you or anyone else over? I didnt do anything illegal. There are tons of videos on youtube of people doing things that are much more stupid with firearms than anything that I did. In fact, I don’t see that anything I did was stupid. As a matter of fact, I shredded the piece of plywood I was shooting at. Its not as though I was just wildly shooting at stuff. You can plainly see that I have the guns trained on my target. You can even see that I checked the actions of BOTH weapons to make sure they were empty and open. Other than the rate of fire, it was the model of responsibility. I was just having some fun on the 4th of July. I’m pretty sure that is still legal. Besides, the government can’t take guns from americans. It goes against the constitution. (See 2nd Amendment)
Sharpshooter on 07 Jul 2009 at 12:23 am #
No but the fact that you’re adding to the pile of BS on youtube anyways isnt helping mate. and if enough people in the obama administration agree to it they can make it illegal to have automatics, sure it fucking sucks but in the up coming apocolypse it wont be hard to raid an army base. And i wasnt saying they’d take guns away from us just automatics, you’d be surprised at how many people depend on hunting as a food source. It doesnt matter if you were being responcable, to the average person (and average voter) seeing a man from Nashville busting out automatics screams moronic. Now someone who knows their way around a gun will notice you checking everything. But still dude, just be aware of the general opinion cause soon you might not have those anymore…..
Angryvikingman on 07 Jul 2009 at 7:07 am #
Btw, they’re not full auto, they’re semi. I just pull the trigger insanely fast. (Didnt know if by “Automatic” if you meant full or semi) I agree there’s a lot of BS on youtube. Yes, most people see big redneck dumping a magazine, but others see it for whats there and not what the fear mongers want them to see. I do know what I’m doing and I would consider my self very safe and professional when it comes to shooting, and you can have fun with guns like I did and still be safe.
3ID on 07 Jul 2009 at 2:14 pm #
my opinion on guns is every one (that is if they want to) should take a week long gun course to get a firearms licensee then and only then can they buy weapons and ammo they would have to show the licensee to the gun stores but with this licensee you would be able to buy any thing you want as long as you don’t have a criminal back ground
Angryvikingman on 07 Jul 2009 at 5:17 pm #
That’s a good idea actually. Yeah, I had to pass all kinds of background checks through the local sherriff’s department and the ATF and I got finger printed twice before I got my supressor. And I’ve had a few firearms safety classes before. Thinking about getting my handgun carry permit too.
Sharpshooter on 07 Jul 2009 at 6:13 pm #
if you’re close enough to use a handgun then you’re close enough to swing a bat in their face.
Angryvikingman on 07 Jul 2009 at 9:02 pm #
LOL, I can’t swing a bat 25+ yards, but I can hit a head sized target at that range and farther. When they get in arms reach I’ll swing a melee weapon.
3ID on 08 Jul 2009 at 5:33 pm #
Angryvikingman you dont have a carry permit i thought out of all people on this web site you would have one
Angryvikingman on 08 Jul 2009 at 8:44 pm #
I’d have had one if my wife would let me spend the money. Had to trade shotgun and gear to get my last gun. We’re saving every penny for a zombie fort, uh, I mean house. LOL!
3ID on 09 Jul 2009 at 2:48 pm #
they arent that expensive like 50 bucks if that, to me that is worth the money
Sharpshooter on 09 Jul 2009 at 9:58 pm #
I dont get the point of being a walking tank. I’d like to travel light mates. my 30.06 is enough for me!!! i kind of sorta suck with handguns anyways. If i had a handgun (and some preficiency with it) i’d just stick with the guns and ammo untill z-day arrives, cause i dont really think the zed head cops are gunna pull you over for having an unregistered pistol in your glove box hahaha
Brento on 10 Jul 2009 at 1:15 am #
somebody said “I am legend style zacks”
those aren’t zombies. if anything: they are closer to vampires.
they are still alive, and still have brain function. both of which pretty much exclude them from being zombies.
however they are cannibals, but so are vampires, and the sun-light kills them, like vampires. so i’d say they aren’t zombies, and regarding them as such would be foolish.
Angryvikingman on 10 Jul 2009 at 9:03 pm #
Well, the actual permit is cheap, but the only classes offered around here are like $150, then the permit fees, then getting fingerprinted at the special little place. All in all costs are about $250.
A 30-06 holds how many shots? Maybe 5+1? Weighs how much, 9 pounds? My AR-15 and 5 Mags weigh that much, and that’s 150 rounds of ammo. In a situation where I’d have to actually look down at the weapon to reload, like when using a 30-06, it’d pretty much mean death if you were facing any kind of significant numbers. For long range shots from a safe spot, then yeah, that’s ok. Even so, I can make a 300 yard shot with my AR, and its also a good close quarters gun. A 30-06 is a great gun for hunting and small numbers, but for anything else, you’ll need something clip fed.
Sharpshooter on 12 Jul 2009 at 1:35 pm #
Oh yeah totaly but i mean it’s the only reliable gun i have access to, and i suck with rapid shots anyways. post me up in a deerblind with a spotter and we’ll do just fine.
Sharpshooter on 12 Jul 2009 at 1:38 pm #
@ Brento
i was just using a general term when i said “I Am Legend zombies” and 28 days later rage virus aren’t zombies either yet are concidered to be. they still have a heart beat and if you just shoot out the highly used organs like lungs or heart you can take ‘em down.
3ID on 12 Jul 2009 at 7:56 pm #
i have my load out and it is a Rock River AR15 in my opinion the best ar made but when it comes down to my hand gun i have three and i dont now witch ones i would take i have a Sig P220 a Glock 19 and a Snub noise .357 it would probably come down to my Sig i can all ways carry my 19 in my belt or back pack.
@ Brent and Sharpshooter
the zombies in the morning star strain (book) would be the scarcest
Jordan on 14 Jul 2009 at 11:58 am #
I have only the greatest respect for those who undertake the physical strain and posses the mental fortitude that is required for the practice of martial arts. In no way am I questioning the abilities of those in the programs listed or any others who achieve any level of skill in hand to hand combat.
It is my understanding that the majority of martial arts, even in there most concentrated and well directed forms are based on inflicting pain, restricting movement, and the disabling or the incapacitation of targets. My question to you fellow ZAC readers is as following, are the martial arts a true weapon against the living dead, or an advantage only in specific situations that create a greater risk to the human in question by exposing themselves unnecessarily to lethal bite?
Regardless,
Forms of martial arts do lend themselves to significantly greater ability at keeping a distance between ones self and an assailant, exercise caution where at all possible, surly removing yourself from a situation is the wiser choice than escalating risk for a chance to stop it. When it comes to E&E keep in mind offensive confrontation is the last resort.
Sharpshooter on 14 Jul 2009 at 12:43 pm #
Jordan.
which is why i take ninjutsu my dojo takes camping trips all the time durring the sumer to learn escape and evasion techniques, making poisons but only if it’s just senpai there cause you dont want new guys making poisons and killing people because they dont know what they’re doing. We also learn grappling hooks, throwing knives, and basic survival skills. Starting fires without matches, hunting, trapping, stalking and other such things. Pretty neat stuff if i may say so myself.
Sharpshooter on 14 Jul 2009 at 4:04 pm #
i havnt read morning star yet so i wouldnt know mate
Jordan on 14 Jul 2009 at 6:09 pm #
Sharpshooter thats E&E and outdoor survival techniques not martial arts
but definitely the coolest camping trip in the history of forever.
Sharpshooter on 14 Jul 2009 at 7:10 pm #
no it’s ninjutsu so yeah it is martial arts. learning what the ninja’s knew over 100 years ago is pretty amazing some times lol
Jordan on 15 Jul 2009 at 7:55 pm #
I now see the error of my ways, i must be more diligent in my reserch.
All apologies sharpshooter.
HVCBALLA- Wouldn’t the army surplus store be trashed by the time you could safely loot it?
The H2 is just a big box frame on a standard sedan suspension with a v-8 and high out put transmission, hardly a load hauler. If you want a supply vehicle reinforce a work truck of some sort, preferable some where around a one ton class, slap on a topper with a few braces welded in and prest-o chang-o, you’ve got a supply vehicle. Besides the truck’s alternator is more likely to take the strain of a CB, lights, and mega phone.
Sharpshooter on 15 Jul 2009 at 8:25 pm #
i’d just steal a big ole 18 wheel and fill the trailer with supplies. could fit a living room in there plus still have tons of extra room…. OR you could steal one that has a tank on it for hauling gas and one for storage >:D it would be like a super convoy cause you’d have those two haulers plus whatever else anyone wanted to bring i suppose….