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		<title>By: Z_Creator</title>
		<link>http://www.zombiesarecoming.com/2009/07/21/7-tips-for-scouting-scavenging-post-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-366851</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think getting a military rifle will be rather difficult, first you&#039;ll have your self-defense weapon, maybe you&#039;ll get a police/SWAT-grade weapon and finally a militry weapon, but how to get ammo???

Scavenging is the answer; boxes, small buildings (of course, always have an escape route/plan), cars (if there&#039;s no alarm), lockers, etc.

Canned food and bottled water, and maybe some MRE are essencial. Know your area, stay alert and protect yourself:; not from zombies, but from other survivors if they try to kill you.

But, most important, think what kind of survivor you are; those who want to escape or to fight back???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think getting a military rifle will be rather difficult, first you&#8217;ll have your self-defense weapon, maybe you&#8217;ll get a police/SWAT-grade weapon and finally a militry weapon, but how to get ammo???</p>
<p>Scavenging is the answer; boxes, small buildings (of course, always have an escape route/plan), cars (if there&#8217;s no alarm), lockers, etc.</p>
<p>Canned food and bottled water, and maybe some MRE are essencial. Know your area, stay alert and protect yourself:; not from zombies, but from other survivors if they try to kill you.</p>
<p>But, most important, think what kind of survivor you are; those who want to escape or to fight back???</p>
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		<title>By: kole</title>
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		<dc:creator>kole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>an ar15 is alot easyer to get police use it and the national guard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an ar15 is alot easyer to get police use it and the national guard.</p>
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		<title>By: Semper Cogitant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semper Cogitant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a scavenging trip, not planning to be out long I&#039;d go with this:

Main firearm with several extra mags (for me ideally a suppressed HK417 done up M4 style, otherwise any handy semi auto rifle or carbine, preferably suppressed).

Pistol with a few extra mags (for me a 1911)

Tomahawk (I like SOGs version, but there are a lot of options)

A good large knife (I have an old 8&quot; bowie, but there are lots of options)

Some basic tools for B&amp;E (small bolt cutters, halligan bar, multitool, small hand tools)

Hand held radio with extra batteries(if I have people back a compound or there are friends out scavenging the area)

An MRE and some energy bars (yes, you can survive a long time without food, but you can&#039;t move and fight effectively for very long)

Plenty of water (remember too much water, food and ammo are all self correcting problems).

Load bearing chest rig, ruckk sack, backpack and haversack, plenty of room to carry stuff that I&#039;m scavenging for).

The most important thing to have would be a plan.  Know the area I&#039;m going into as much as possible, plan where I&#039;m headed, and at all times have multiple escape routes.  Also thing about where in the area being being scavenged I could hold up overnight or for longer if things went bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a scavenging trip, not planning to be out long I&#8217;d go with this:</p>
<p>Main firearm with several extra mags (for me ideally a suppressed HK417 done up M4 style, otherwise any handy semi auto rifle or carbine, preferably suppressed).</p>
<p>Pistol with a few extra mags (for me a 1911)</p>
<p>Tomahawk (I like SOGs version, but there are a lot of options)</p>
<p>A good large knife (I have an old 8&#8243; bowie, but there are lots of options)</p>
<p>Some basic tools for B&amp;E (small bolt cutters, halligan bar, multitool, small hand tools)</p>
<p>Hand held radio with extra batteries(if I have people back a compound or there are friends out scavenging the area)</p>
<p>An MRE and some energy bars (yes, you can survive a long time without food, but you can&#8217;t move and fight effectively for very long)</p>
<p>Plenty of water (remember too much water, food and ammo are all self correcting problems).</p>
<p>Load bearing chest rig, ruckk sack, backpack and haversack, plenty of room to carry stuff that I&#8217;m scavenging for).</p>
<p>The most important thing to have would be a plan.  Know the area I&#8217;m going into as much as possible, plan where I&#8217;m headed, and at all times have multiple escape routes.  Also thing about where in the area being being scavenged I could hold up overnight or for longer if things went bad.</p>
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		<title>By: 3-15 INF</title>
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		<dc:creator>3-15 INF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh... that was a crazy run on sentence- as many people have stated, once again, the ak47 does not run on the same ammo as any american gun. the 240b and m60, two very different guns, use 7.62x51mm NATO while the AK uses a 7.62x39mm round. They are not interchangeable. 
  Besides that, we&#039;re talking about scavenging, not just hunt and kill. Youv&#039;e got to have the means to completely survive, which means a way to collect and carry suplies. Don&#039;t worry about all this stuff people hear about on tv about guns. Pick it up, use it, and when it&#039;s dry, throw it away. Get familiar with as many different weapon types as possible, so whatever you end up with, you;re proficient with! See ya on the other side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh&#8230; that was a crazy run on sentence- as many people have stated, once again, the ak47 does not run on the same ammo as any american gun. the 240b and m60, two very different guns, use 7.62x51mm NATO while the AK uses a 7.62x39mm round. They are not interchangeable.<br />
  Besides that, we&#8217;re talking about scavenging, not just hunt and kill. Youv&#8217;e got to have the means to completely survive, which means a way to collect and carry suplies. Don&#8217;t worry about all this stuff people hear about on tv about guns. Pick it up, use it, and when it&#8217;s dry, throw it away. Get familiar with as many different weapon types as possible, so whatever you end up with, you;re proficient with! See ya on the other side!</p>
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		<title>By: 2-22 INF</title>
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		<dc:creator>2-22 INF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>killer b the ak 47 is 308(7.62) and there is plenty of ammo on a military base of that caliber we have m240b which is a m60 it is 7.62 and far as a rifle goes AR 10 or 15 is best for accuracy and is the standard 5.56 round but it is harder to take care of and clean and will jam if not properly handled the ak 47 runs cheap it is cheaper then the AR but is less accurate but is way more reliable and needs less to function and it is a bigger caliber as far as a pistol goes what do you perfer a stronger weapon or more ammo cap, i perfer a 45 1911 or xd 45 but they only hold 7+1 a xd 9 holds 20 9mm rounds double stacked in the clip so which ever you perfer i myself have a AR 15 pistol with a collapsible buttstock  its much smaller then the regular AR but its carries the same ammo and about 10 lighters i have a pistol grip in the front and cqc red dot sight any where i put that dot up to 200 meters is were my rounds are going i also have xd 9mm for my side arm i hate 9s but u dnt need a desert eagle to blow sum brains out, i have my army crap to use but i bought this high cap web vest that carries 16 AR mags and 10 pistol clips and as far as food and shit that is a luxery a poncho yeah but every thing else is just going to slow u down i wanna be able to shoot move and communicate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>killer b the ak 47 is 308(7.62) and there is plenty of ammo on a military base of that caliber we have m240b which is a m60 it is 7.62 and far as a rifle goes AR 10 or 15 is best for accuracy and is the standard 5.56 round but it is harder to take care of and clean and will jam if not properly handled the ak 47 runs cheap it is cheaper then the AR but is less accurate but is way more reliable and needs less to function and it is a bigger caliber as far as a pistol goes what do you perfer a stronger weapon or more ammo cap, i perfer a 45 1911 or xd 45 but they only hold 7+1 a xd 9 holds 20 9mm rounds double stacked in the clip so which ever you perfer i myself have a AR 15 pistol with a collapsible buttstock  its much smaller then the regular AR but its carries the same ammo and about 10 lighters i have a pistol grip in the front and cqc red dot sight any where i put that dot up to 200 meters is were my rounds are going i also have xd 9mm for my side arm i hate 9s but u dnt need a desert eagle to blow sum brains out, i have my army crap to use but i bought this high cap web vest that carries 16 AR mags and 10 pistol clips and as far as food and shit that is a luxery a poncho yeah but every thing else is just going to slow u down i wanna be able to shoot move and communicate.</p>
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		<title>By: KillerB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KillerB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind guys that an AR-15/M-16/M4 are the US Military small arms of choice.  NOT the Soviet AK/AKM series of rifles.  So if you are in the U.S. keep with U.S. calibers.  Secondly it is not going to be out of the question for the U.S. Military to support/supply Hunter/Killer groups.  They will have their hands full and will no doubt be looking for a nonstandard force to aid in the overall elemination of the Zeds.  All you have to be able to do is link up with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind guys that an AR-15/M-16/M4 are the US Military small arms of choice.  NOT the Soviet AK/AKM series of rifles.  So if you are in the U.S. keep with U.S. calibers.  Secondly it is not going to be out of the question for the U.S. Military to support/supply Hunter/Killer groups.  They will have their hands full and will no doubt be looking for a nonstandard force to aid in the overall elemination of the Zeds.  All you have to be able to do is link up with them.</p>
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		<title>By: 3-15 INF</title>
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		<dc:creator>3-15 INF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would imagine when scavenging, i wouldn&#039;t want to draw attention to myself or be weighed down with alot of equipment. The point is to get in and out as quick and cautious as possible. Your&#039;e competing for supplies with others that aren&#039;t zeds also. My loadout is tried and true-

1. Large alice pack with frame- lots of room and great load carrying capability. Stuff a camelbak in there and your&#039;e good to go. 
2. M4 Carbine on wolf single point sling(keeps weapon down by side so it&#039;s easier to hide from human observers while remaining ready for action) add an ACOG scope, surefire suppressor, and taclight
3. Chest rig for 8 30 rounders
4. Padded pistol belt with 1911 handgun with eight 8 round mags and a combat tomahawk

Get the food, water, ammo or whatever I can and get moving! Stay light, stay fast, only shoot whatever gets in my way. ROCK OF THE MARNE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine when scavenging, i wouldn&#8217;t want to draw attention to myself or be weighed down with alot of equipment. The point is to get in and out as quick and cautious as possible. Your&#8217;e competing for supplies with others that aren&#8217;t zeds also. My loadout is tried and true-</p>
<p>1. Large alice pack with frame- lots of room and great load carrying capability. Stuff a camelbak in there and your&#8217;e good to go.<br />
2. M4 Carbine on wolf single point sling(keeps weapon down by side so it&#8217;s easier to hide from human observers while remaining ready for action) add an ACOG scope, surefire suppressor, and taclight<br />
3. Chest rig for 8 30 rounders<br />
4. Padded pistol belt with 1911 handgun with eight 8 round mags and a combat tomahawk</p>
<p>Get the food, water, ammo or whatever I can and get moving! Stay light, stay fast, only shoot whatever gets in my way. ROCK OF THE MARNE!</p>
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		<title>By: Angryvikingman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angryvikingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caleb: The tanto is frost cutlery. Got it for $10 at the flea market, which is an excellent place to find deals on all kinds of crazy survival gear. If it isnt that great, it&#039;ll do until you can afford to buy something better. I just use it as a medium knife. Good for a few things, meal prep, making traps, and I can remove the cord and use it as a spear point if I need to. Good for wild/ feral hogs, charging zombies, ect. I have a gerber evo tanto that I carry as my every day knife. 

@ another mike:
My scout troop didn&#039;t really use the book all that much. We stayed outside a LOT and Mr. Gill (Scout Master) pretty much taught us survival off the cuff and would reference the book sparingly. The only thing that he was ever anal about was the &quot;totin&#039; chip&quot;. If we ever did anything we weren&#039;t supposed to with a knife or hatchet he was all over us. God I did a lot of push ups and lost my chip for hatchet throwing a few times. As for concealing evidence of a fire:

If you&#039;re using a pan, sterno or any smokeless fuel is great, but assuming you don&#039;t have any or are cooking raw meat and don&#039;t have a pan...

Dig a square in the ground with your hatchet, or camp shovel. 
1x1 ft. wide, and about 4-6 inches deep. Place a few rocks inside to set your pan (or whatever) on. Only use enough fuel to cook your meal. Use dry wood to keep the smoke to a minimum, then after you are done cooking, immediately cover the fire pit with dirt, then cover the dirt with leaves or moss. If you do it in an open field, then try to keep the grass intact in a big patch so you can replace it. Trees diffuse the smoke and its harder to tell where its coming from, so I don&#039;t suggest cooking out in the open. 

Also, I don&#039;t really like to leave my food where others can find it. Even if its concealed, animals could get into it, and if I got back to camp and my food was gone or tampered with, well... you&#039;d know one of the reasons I got my nickname.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caleb: The tanto is frost cutlery. Got it for $10 at the flea market, which is an excellent place to find deals on all kinds of crazy survival gear. If it isnt that great, it&#8217;ll do until you can afford to buy something better. I just use it as a medium knife. Good for a few things, meal prep, making traps, and I can remove the cord and use it as a spear point if I need to. Good for wild/ feral hogs, charging zombies, ect. I have a gerber evo tanto that I carry as my every day knife. </p>
<p>@ another mike:<br />
My scout troop didn&#8217;t really use the book all that much. We stayed outside a LOT and Mr. Gill (Scout Master) pretty much taught us survival off the cuff and would reference the book sparingly. The only thing that he was ever anal about was the &#8220;totin&#8217; chip&#8221;. If we ever did anything we weren&#8217;t supposed to with a knife or hatchet he was all over us. God I did a lot of push ups and lost my chip for hatchet throwing a few times. As for concealing evidence of a fire:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re using a pan, sterno or any smokeless fuel is great, but assuming you don&#8217;t have any or are cooking raw meat and don&#8217;t have a pan&#8230;</p>
<p>Dig a square in the ground with your hatchet, or camp shovel.<br />
1&#215;1 ft. wide, and about 4-6 inches deep. Place a few rocks inside to set your pan (or whatever) on. Only use enough fuel to cook your meal. Use dry wood to keep the smoke to a minimum, then after you are done cooking, immediately cover the fire pit with dirt, then cover the dirt with leaves or moss. If you do it in an open field, then try to keep the grass intact in a big patch so you can replace it. Trees diffuse the smoke and its harder to tell where its coming from, so I don&#8217;t suggest cooking out in the open. </p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t really like to leave my food where others can find it. Even if its concealed, animals could get into it, and if I got back to camp and my food was gone or tampered with, well&#8230; you&#8217;d know one of the reasons I got my nickname.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharpshooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharpshooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh god that sounds so good dude!!! reminds me of the time we had wild rabit and duck... oh god i want REAL meat now not that store bought crap. damn you mike. damn you!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh god that sounds so good dude!!! reminds me of the time we had wild rabit and duck&#8230; oh god i want REAL meat now not that store bought crap. damn you mike. damn you!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: another mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>another mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I&#039;ll definitely second spending the weekend out in the woods with just some basic supplies. That&#039;s something I thing everyone should do as they&#039;re growing up. 

I&#039;d get together with a couple friends, the four horsemen of the apocalypse we were, and spend all weekend roaming far and wide, chowing down on edible plants and small game we&#039;d picked off with our light bows. We built wilderness shelters and spent the night. So long as the parents knew which thousand-acre woods we were in and that we&#039;d be back by Sunday, it was &quot;Enjoy your weekend kids.&quot;

Oh and, at least in my tenth edition Handbook, navigating without a compass is on page 207 and matchless fires are on page 90.

Now I&#039;ve got to go make some pemmican, my mouth&#039;s watering just thinking about it.

/be prepared</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I&#8217;ll definitely second spending the weekend out in the woods with just some basic supplies. That&#8217;s something I thing everyone should do as they&#8217;re growing up. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d get together with a couple friends, the four horsemen of the apocalypse we were, and spend all weekend roaming far and wide, chowing down on edible plants and small game we&#8217;d picked off with our light bows. We built wilderness shelters and spent the night. So long as the parents knew which thousand-acre woods we were in and that we&#8217;d be back by Sunday, it was &#8220;Enjoy your weekend kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh and, at least in my tenth edition Handbook, navigating without a compass is on page 207 and matchless fires are on page 90.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ve got to go make some pemmican, my mouth&#8217;s watering just thinking about it.</p>
<p>/be prepared</p>
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