The Outbreak: Where To Go?

Where do I go in the event of an actual zombie emergency?
In the event of an actual zombie emergency, citizens are advised to stay indoors. While this option will suffice in the short term, it is unfeasible for any long term survival plans. At some point, everyone will need to go outdoors for food, water, medical supplies or weapons. This article will document where resources and safe shelter will most likely be found as well as locations to avoid.
A full blown zombie emergency has been in effect for three weeks. You have done what you were supposed to do. You barricaded yourself in your house and haven’t been outside since it started. At night you can see fires blazing in the distance and they appear to be getting closer each night. Gunfire wakes you from your sleep on many nights but you haven’t heard a single shot in two days. Your food is running low and you think you may be getting sick. You need supplies. Where do you go?
Let’s start with where you should not go.
- Grocery Stores. If this were the beginning of an outbreak, then yes, most grocery stores would have been fully stocked and ripe for looting. After three weeks, the possibilities grow slimmer with each passing day. You may find an overlooked bottle of water or some scraps but most likely, it has been picked clean.
- Hospitals. The same goes for any type of medical center. These buildings most likely turned into war zones as infected were brought in to be treated, only to have the patients turn and murder their healers. Once the killing stopped, looters most likely took anything of value. That is if there are no longer zombies still inside which makes these structures a deathtrap.
- Prisons. While at first, a prison or jail might seem secure, they most likely became a living hell of starving, caged animals. If the incarcerated were infected, it could become a maze of death for anyone who got lost inside.
- Malls. We’ve all seen Dawn of the Dead, right?
Now on to places you should go.
- Most military bases and installments would have measures in place to ward off an attack and plentiful medical supplies as well as weapons, food and water. If survivors exist, they would most likely be here. If you can, make your way to the nearest military installment be it any branch of the military. If no survivors exist, you should have your pick of an array of weaponry as well as all the supplies you could want. Large, off-road vehicles for safe travel would also be in abundance here.
- Fortified shelter should also be abundant on the base of a military installation. Many underground bunkers exist for the purpose of nuclear attacks. These destinations would be ideal as they offer protection from the undead as well as stockpiles of supplies and weapons which could last countless months. The concentration of these types of installations are scattered around Washington, D.C. as well as the east coast although others do exist. Below you will find links to lists of military bases throughout the United States and the world. Locate the ones nearest you and keep a detailed map of how to get there. Also you will find links to known and suspected government operated underground bunkers which may become useful in the event of a full blown zombie emergency.
- In a pinch, a police station or courthouse would be a feasible alternate destination. Weapons and supplies would most likely be abundant at these locations and would most likely house survivors if any exist.
List of Military bases
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases#Within_the_U.S.
Known Government Operated Underground Bunkers: These are the more well known bases which have been reported on and documented:
A more thorough list can be found here with links to actual and suspected underground military facilities.
This article was submitted by JJ Ritonya.
Stay safe. Stay informed. Stay alive.
Comments (95)







Ian Muller on 26 Jul 2009 at 10:12 pm #
Actually, military bases and police stations would be bad places to head to. Many people would head there for security and a sense of organization in the chaos that would be occurring. Even three weeks afterwards, all those panicked civilians that headed there will have either turned, and probably still be lingering (heavily) around that area, or they will have taken over the base or station as their own fortification. And I know if I had managed to get my group into a base that I would be rather reluctant to give up supplies to another survivor (if that person was going to leave – If they were going to stay and join my group, then it’s a different story).
I think the biggest issue with police stations and military bases is that there is a really good chance there will be a lot of infected/turned lingering around them, so it’s a bad idea to head straight to them (because a lot of other people will have had that idea).
Angryvikingman on 26 Jul 2009 at 10:33 pm #
Personally, I would go to castle Gwynn. Its a replica of an english border castle where they have the Tennessee Ren Fair. Its about 15 minutes away from where I live and its pretty isolated. Bordered on one side by a 40 ft cliff, one side by a bridge and its fenced off the rest of the way around by a 8 ft tall chain link fence. It also has a fresh water spring on the property. I would raid the two awesome gun stores near my house and try to find as much non-perishable food as I could. The pallet of MREs at the gun store would last quite a while, but I’d try to get a lot of canned foods, and dried foods. Powdered eggs, milk, potatoes, sugar, flour, cornmeal, ramen noodles and other pastas, last a long long time. I’m not going to count on any sort of refridgeration. I’d get a shit-ton of 3 mil+ clear plastic, pvc pipes and connectors and make a green house so I could grow food year round. Corn, greenbeans, potatoes, carrots, tomatoes, and lettuce would be about all I would grow. At least I could have a salad, since dressing has a long shelf life. I would also hunt and trap. I’d try to make some live traps to catch some rabbits and make a hutch to raise them for meat. They’re easy to take care of, reproduce and mature quickly. Keep the breeding pairs to about 10, and kill off a few when you need some meat. You could always can it to last longer. Rabbit is gooooooood. Especially in stew.
Ryan Elliott on 27 Jul 2009 at 6:55 am #
I would make a mad dash for Fort Hood. Since my mother and sisters live less than 5 miles from it, I would make them go there as well.
David Farrey on 27 Jul 2009 at 2:20 pm #
I would have taken care of gathering supplies (i.e. looting) within the first few days. For the location to hide out, there is an isolated horse/4-wheeler club a couple miles from my house. It is an old barn, but sturdily built, and has several doors, but only one that can be opened from outside. It has a pond that is kept stocked with fish, and has plenty of tools as well as full kitchen and bathroom facilities. If my neighbors don’t make it, I would “borrow” their generator. Basically, I think I could make it there for a few years with only occasional raiding parties, and definitely long enough to make plans to allow myself to last indefinitely.
Caleb Hader on 28 Jul 2009 at 5:43 pm #
I live fairly close to Tinker air force base, which is rumored to have a HUGE stock of weapons in an underwater storage facility, I personally don’t think so, but hey, it could be real. But I do know a few people who work on the base, so that could help. And being an air force base, should have a nice cache of weapons and ammo. I would probably be able to get gear there, then me and my group would figure out a good place to settle in for the long haul, so we don’t have to loot for food. am I ranting again
Caleb Hader on 29 Jul 2009 at 10:20 am #
Oh, also, Tinker is apparently a major airforce bases, that was made in order to deal with obviously, a lot of air trafic. So, who knows, maybe they could get our group out with the military, who knows? Just a thought on my part.
Sharpshooter on 31 Jul 2009 at 5:54 pm #
oh god i would NOT head to a military base. because everyone else has that same exact idea. honestly i have no idea what i would do EXACTLY….. which is why i have many plans for different circumstances.
Sharpshooter on 31 Jul 2009 at 6:38 pm #
ok so im putting together my ultimate zombie survival kit.
i mean i’m going all out. like half my shit is military issue (dad was cleaning out the garage and i got my hands on his stuff before they sold it at the yard sale.) i have a gas mask, ammo container, machette/hatchet plus all of MY stuff which would be my 30.06 + 300 rounds, backpacking camp gear (battery/gas lantern, small cooking stove, and about 5 boxes of MRE’s), small homemade siren, state map and a compass. I need to stop procrastinating and put up pictures of all this crap don’t you agree? might even make a video for youtube….. iunno i’ll decide in a few days lemme know of your opinions!
Ronin666 on 31 Jul 2009 at 7:45 pm #
Personally I think the military base is a bad idea. It’s no different from the mall except with more guns. So, you can last longer inside the perimeter, that means more time for more zombies to completely surround the place in massive numbers. Guys, are you going to take your wives , daughters and girl friends into a testosterone filled camp where the m to f ratio is so badly tilted and the guys running the place have all the guns?
The idea is not to fight the Z’s it’s to avoid them. You all seem very reliant on the military to provide what ever you need, forget it, they will be supplying themselves and the people behind them with what THEY need.
When the shit hits the fan it’s every man for himself, if the military leave a base , they will take everything or destroy it. If they couldn’t hold it how do you think you will?
Remember, the government doesn’t care about you, your only a tax payer, when taxes don’t matter anymore neither do you!
The wilderness is your friend, go where there are fewer people.
Lazarus on 31 Jul 2009 at 7:53 pm #
I live in Finland and we got 21 military bases and approx 7 million ppl. So military base would be great idea after 3 weeks. It is quite troublesome scenario for outbrake to happen near me since I live in our head capital. I know couple of places to quickly loot for canned goods, weapons and first aid kits.
ps. Sry for bad english. :D
dib5th on 31 Jul 2009 at 10:08 pm #
Ronin a military base might be a good place and how knows you might get lucky and get a m16a1 or be placed at a mounted mg and blast away at the zeds plus if there r any beer bottles,gas ,and rags then its time to make some mlotovs and light a few zed candles
Sharpshooter on 31 Jul 2009 at 10:33 pm #
ok obviously dib5th is gunna be one of the first to go. have you never heard the saying “the only thing worse then a zombie is a FLAMING zombie” ? i mean seriously if they are actual REANIMATED DEAD then those arent gunna do shit but most likely burn your fort to the ground. unless you’re living in a solid contrette building with metal shutters you’d be pretty screwed and honestly i dont think you’re gunna just HAPPEN to come across a fortress like that on accident when you’re being chased by a horde. but under the previously stated circumstances (living in said fortress) then i’d totaly make a few cocktails and enjoy the show. i like Ronin, he’s my kind of dude. I’d rather be on the run then stay holed up and surounded then starve to death. the best plan would be to have many save houses in one city and stay in a new one each night. get 7 for each day of the week and name them so say you guys show up at one safe house on a friday and it’s destroyed by zombies cause somebody left the door open you could be like “oh fuck!!! the closest one is tuesdays RUN!!!” then go to tuesdays shelter.
3ID on 01 Aug 2009 at 8:25 pm #
Deffenantly stay away from military base death traps for shure but id do like sharpshooters idea with different safe houses in stead on just one but you should figer out a tunnel system like the VC had in nam so you could just go under the hored and then move to the next safe house
Sharpshooter on 01 Aug 2009 at 9:56 pm #
oh yeah deffinatly dude. or doesnt even have to be a tunnel system it could be like homemade bridges or something….. get like really thick and wide planks and just use those.
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 01 Aug 2009 at 11:34 pm #
Hmm, tunnels. I like it. I’ve always found tight, near claustrophobic places to be quite comfortable. And I do believe that if one was to look around that you could very well find some translations of old VC war manuals on how to build tunnel complexes. Though while they do have their own advantages you would have to design in multiple entrances and exits so that if one is compromised you could still escape. In fact designing it so that you could close done an area if it were breached would be a good idea, and one that I would argue for. But, you would need a good deal of time and man power to create it before hand since it not like digging a foxhole under fire. And god help the poor bastards who have to clear the place if it’s over run, I don’t even want to think about that.
Another consideration for tunnels is if you had a complex built that was compromised it would be a feasible idea to blow all entrances and burn the dead heads alive, so to speak.
Definitely an idea to that warrants further consideration.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
Angryvikingman on 02 Aug 2009 at 8:38 am #
Tunnels…
If done correctly, a series of tunnels, with murder holes near the entrance, would be a great defense. An external defense area, with a tunnel system as an area to withdraw to, that also has a very long tunnel that leads to a surface exit would be best. Double hatches, and hallways lined with murder holes would be the best way to protect the tunnel complex. That way if the tunnels were breached, then the series of secondary defenses could be used to halt the zombie ingress. If all else fails, then you still have your backup exit tunnel. How would you protect your exit area? A large concrete bunker built on top of it, with a series of walls and large steel doors would keep people out, as well as zombies. If your tunnels included hydroponic growing rooms for food, water treatment facilities, and other preplanned precautions, then so much the better.
3ID on 03 Aug 2009 at 8:52 pm #
I want to see the rifle, it might be a BB gun for all we know. And I wouldn’t eat those brown MREs, they are from around the time of Desert Storm.
Sharpshooter on 03 Aug 2009 at 9:56 pm #
yeah totaly ill put a video up tomarrow 3lD and i’ve HAD those brown MRE’s before they taste fine and i havnt gotten sick off em before so i keep eatin them.
Sharpshooter on 03 Aug 2009 at 9:57 pm #
oh hey dude i’ve got a question is your name 3-L-D or is it the letter “i” but capitalized? ill put a shout out to you in the video i just wanna get my shit straight
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 03 Aug 2009 at 10:49 pm #
Sharpshooter I will give you credit for having a kit ready to go, though I have to wonder just how much thought went into the prep. Even though you have a med kit, which I again commend you on since everyone needs one of those, you seem to lack other essentials that should be in a kit. A good working knife for everyday tasks, a fire starter of some sort, signaling mirror or flares(preferably both in my opinion), A set of binoculars(though a scope on a rifle can do in a pinch). And I have to ask why the hell did you picked a red t-shirt, that is like painting a target on you back, literally. While I suppose I should say that looking at some of the backed article on survival prep that would be too nitpicky, put a little more thought into what you need to survive and you should have a decent working kit for when the old merde meets the ventilator. A
Oh, and 3ID has an I not L as in Third Infantry Division.
And it seems that I’m not the only one who dabbles in the literary arts, nice work Ronin.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
Angryvikingman on 03 Aug 2009 at 10:55 pm #
Maybe we should have a post vids of your gear and packs thread….
Ronin666 on 04 Aug 2009 at 6:45 am #
Thanks Kain :) Long time journo, 2 time at fiction. 3rd in the works.
Jay on 04 Aug 2009 at 8:49 am #
I have my mzpk all packed and ready to rock…..also how about a dog as a weapon you gotta have your mans best friend with you plus they are ideal for hunting if you train them well just a thought anyway.
Sharpshooter on 04 Aug 2009 at 10:13 am #
i’ve always got my knives with me so i didnt even think of it Kain but yeah you’re right. those first aid kits are CRAZY. curiosity got to my yesterday, and those things even have IV’s in them how awesome is that?!?!
Sharpshooter on 04 Aug 2009 at 10:35 am #
and about the red shirt…. ehh i just kind of grabbed it when i was putting it together i dont really think that the zombies were gunna do a fashion critique on me but yeah that was rather poor judgement on the color and i found both sets of my CAMO’s but the forest colors have a decent sized rip in the left sleave of the shirt. i’m rather curious how it got there. the mirrors? ehhh i dont really like those things i just have a couple bright colored bandana’s. though i am curious where i could get flares for a decent price. every where i look they are really pricey in colorado springs. though if i can find some magnesium i can just make my own! but i have to just figure out where…..
3ID on 05 Aug 2009 at 9:10 am #
i Need to post a vid of my kit but i might wear it it would be more of a recon load out but it still would work i like the video Angryvikingman but with your and sharpshooter i saw the mags but weres the ammo a weapon is not any good with out ammo so load out your kit with ammo and water and try hupping it around in the woods and see how comfortible it is then make adjustment because i know the alcie pack can be brutle on long marchs you might have to mod it with Duck tape and foam but with that said you cant beat them for carring loads though
also Sharpshooter i recomand boots not sneakers for bugging out in a hurry but if that all you got its all good you can always raid ashoe store they wont be in high demand but find a comfortable pair it will help alot
Sharpshooter on 05 Aug 2009 at 11:54 am #
yeah i’d prefer boots but if i’m gunna get boots i want combat boots and i’m kinda stuck for cash right now
Angryvikingman on 05 Aug 2009 at 1:37 pm #
Ammo is in ammo can in living room. I only keep the ones in the 3 mag pouch loaded because the aluminum mag feed lips can warp from the pressure of being constantly loaded. I hate fail to feed and double feeds caused by warping….
Trust me, I have the ammo.
Sharpshooter on 05 Aug 2009 at 8:03 pm #
yeah i keep my ammo in a gun safe. ironicaly enough it’s not the gun that takes up most of the space.
Angryvikingman on 06 Aug 2009 at 12:05 am #
I have 3 .50 cal ammo cans full of ammo, and one slim 5.56 can full.
2 full of .223, and 2 full of .22lr. Then a few hundred rounds of 12 ga.
Its still not enough…
Jay on 06 Aug 2009 at 4:15 am #
Why not just use fireworks as flares! Or sharpshooter you can buy them of ‘AMAZON’ very cheap
3ID on 06 Aug 2009 at 8:50 am #
you don’t have to load your mags all the way Angryvikingman just 25 to 28 in each mag and you not have the problem of warping that what we did in Iraq just a suggestion to have mags load and ready i have 8 mag with 25 rounds in them and two 20 rounders with Hornady TAP also 2 Magpole Pmags with thirty rounds in them but i also have a couple of ammo cans full of 223 and 308 as extra
Fraggle Rawk on 06 Aug 2009 at 4:12 pm #
DUDE. Why would you go to a military base?! The goddamn government is probably responsible for the outbreak in the first place. Stock a houseboat! Stay on the water! Zombies cant swim.
Sharpshooter on 06 Aug 2009 at 6:34 pm #
as far as we know Fraggle. they could. dont make assumptions about a creature we’ve never studied. though a house boat WOULD be a good idea…. go out far enough and it wont matter haha
Sharpshooter on 06 Aug 2009 at 6:42 pm #
finaly got around to watching Vikings video… his kit beats the shit outa mine and simply because of that i think i’m gunna completely revamp my this weekend. also ordered another first aid kit from my local military surplus store so :P yet i still fail… that dude is packing so much freaking ammo he’d be like a tank.
Angryvikingman on 06 Aug 2009 at 11:07 pm #
Lol! Thanks! Thats a compliment!
I actually have 2 alice packs, I’m working on a kit for my wife. Hers has just about all the stuff mine does, except the limb saw, shovel, med pack and mag pouches. She has a longer machete than I do because she has shorter reach. Hers is a little more streamlined than mine because she can’t haul 60lbs or so of junk like I can. Gonna get some gas masks soon too. Gotta have something air tight to keep the splatter out of your mucous membranes. I didnt have my small fishing kit in there either. I need to put that in there after I get back from camping this weekend. Gonna start teaching my son all the survival stuff I know. He’s only 7, but hey, you can’t start too early with that king of thing. I started learning from my dad when I was 4-5. I recommend that people get a web belt and harness and keep some stuff on it so you can dump your bag and run like hell if you have to, or remove it to fight. Paracord is a must. Has better tensile strength than white nylon string, and it comes in a bunch of colors to suit your needs. (Trip wires, snares, ect.) Ok… I’m rambling…
Sharpshooter on 07 Aug 2009 at 10:47 am #
i think thats the ONE thing i have you dont: a gas mask. i just wish i had a full HASMAT suit. those things are killer.
Sharpshooter on 07 Aug 2009 at 10:50 am #
ok i know i have the habbit of double posting but i just got my medical kit in. Jack (the guy i know at the mil surplus store) just dropped off my second medical kit for me!!!!!!! that dude is fucking awesome. time to get started!
Angryvikingman on 07 Aug 2009 at 11:56 am #
My only concern with gas masks is using my optics. Hard to get a good cheek weld and eye line up with my scope. I also have a concern about them fogging up, but I’d have to run for a while in it to see if it does fog up.
Sharpshooter on 07 Aug 2009 at 4:21 pm #
mine dont….. should be all right dude… any anyways even if they do fog up and you cant use optics they are extremely handy to have around.
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 07 Aug 2009 at 11:36 pm #
Angryvikingman, they make a spray that stops lenses from fogging up, I use it when I shoot competitions. I think it’s called Anti fog(kinda self explanatory) Aught throw that in my kit, come to think of it. And I hear you when it comes to lining up sight with a gasmask. Back in the 70’s and 80’s I know a few who basically turned their rifles upside down to sight in on target(In fact that was how they were trained. Though that was before the high speed sights that the rifles wear today, and I don’t know if you could do that with a scope. Though come to think of it, back them the military frowned on you if you had anything other than iron sight, unlike today.
And hasmat suits are killer, especially if you wear them for extended lengths of time, at least in hot climates. Just a thought, a set of goggles and something to cover your lower face, like a balaclava I think would suffice. As long as no exposed flesh has an open sore. Though truthfully, and I should have thought of this before, if you’re at CQC range then you are probably doing less aiming and more pointing than anything and are expecting melee combat and back spray.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet.
Angryvikingman on 09 Aug 2009 at 8:54 pm #
Well, for all we know, it could be spread by mosquitos like malaria or yellow fever…
If its viral, then almost any mucous membrane contact longer than a few seconds could cause infection. As for a balaclava, if there is infected blood on it near the mouth and nose, i can become aerosol from breathing it in through the fabric, ostensibly rendering it airborne.
3ID on 10 Aug 2009 at 7:45 am #
weel if it was spread by mosquitos then we are screwed but i can see the argument about gasmask with limited site picture and the balaclava more moblity less protection. it will depened on the situation at had clearing abilding gasmask time and body armor out in the open and city streets type invorment us the balaclava or gator i personaly like the Balsitck face masks they can stop bullets and aslo turn your head in to a weapon but you would have to modify the eyes they are open so thats only draw back
Sharpshooter on 10 Aug 2009 at 9:49 am #
iunno. people can make their own choices, mines FOR the gas mask. We will all find out how wrong we were when the zombie apocolypse happens, watch us all be completly wrong about everything. that would be a swift kick in the ass eh?
3ID on 10 Aug 2009 at 3:39 pm #
well i have trained in both not abig fan of the gas mask but hey your choice try shooting your rifle with that on youre head its hard as crap aslo with your rifle sharpshooter i doubt you good even get a site picther but hoply you have ahand gun and an ax for the close up dirty work then i can see the mask but that is about it for that I have mask and i will probaly use it when time comes
Angryvikingman on 10 Aug 2009 at 11:09 pm #
Have you guys seen this ridiculous show on discovery channel called “The Colony”? How utterly preposterous that all of the “survivors” would be in a group of ten people who are supposed to reperesent a random sampling of the american populous. An electrical engineer, computer engineer, building contractor, handyman, martial arts instructor, trauma nurse, aerospace engineer, marine biologist, machinist, and some other person I forget. Its supposed to be a show about how people could survive in the aftermath of a nearly world ending disaster, but its complete BULLSHIT! I was so amped to watch the show, but after I saw that crap, I was horribly dissappointed. Jesus…
3ID on 11 Aug 2009 at 7:47 am #
sound like a neat idea but those people would not be tat well deverst they sould have some military and guys that sell TVs at best buy not all the scientest wow that is FUNNY
Angryvikingman on 11 Aug 2009 at 9:08 am #
It shoulda been like:
A waiter/waitress
homeless person
ex-military person
factory worker
electrician
truck driver
office worker
customer service person (from best buy, where ever)
suburban house wife
teacher
That would have been a more random sampling. Yeah, it was a great idea, but they totally screwed the pooch on this one. At least they had an original show idea for once.
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 11 Aug 2009 at 1:45 pm #
Oh, good God. I thank you for informing me of just how bad that show is. Especially since I have a natural aversion to reality TV(see Oxymoron, if you will.) If they really wanted to see whether or not a group of random people could survive they should have had several groups of random people in a large wilderness area. I will bet that before long you would have some real entertainment when the groups start hunting the other ones to pillage for supplies. I truly love it when man is brought down to his basilar instincts and to the level of his dog.
On another note, the random group as brought forth by AngryVikingman would likely have been better equipped to handle surviving in a small colony. Mainly because random people usually know more about a number of random skills as opposed to a few experts. I know a truck Driver who can gunsmith, run a distillery, fix an engine, and build a house. Can your electrical engineer do that? The people they have in there sounds like they are more concerned with modern luxuries and less with just surviving.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet.
Angryvikingman on 11 Aug 2009 at 11:10 pm #
The show does have informational merit. Like learning how to daisy chain car batteries, and use a power inverter to convert 12v to 120 and power some lights. I already knew you could use a power inverter for that, but its still good info for people who didnt know it. I’m going to keep watching the show just to glean information. I would really like to pistol whip some of the “survivors” though. They act like a bunch of assholes at the drop of a hat.
evan on 12 Aug 2009 at 7:55 am #
i personally think all they needed was
. an old Korean war vet
.a black guy with a tie
.a hardcore biker guy
. and some Mexican girl that no one cares about
Sharpshooter on 13 Aug 2009 at 12:37 pm #
Evan…. you’re stupid.
KillerB on 20 Aug 2009 at 1:53 am #
Here is an idea. Stay away from the big target areas. i.e. malls, grocery stores, military bases, police station, public building. There are many other locations to get equipment. Getting lured into a crowd is a bad idea in a Zombie outbreak. So I say stay mobile and jump around the areas I listed below.
#1 Hotels- They will have a decent stock of foods and beverages. Also batteries and limited first aid kits. Most hotels also have between 2 and 6 entry points and multiple floors. It could turn out to be a very defensible position with a few modifications. Now the stocks in a hotel will dry out quickly or are perishable but it will be a low priority target for most people leaving them as easy pickings.
#2 Paint and hardwear stores- They will have flamable and semi explosive chemicals, most have vending machines, first aid equipment, batterys, and other materials that can be used to upgrade or suplement your existing gear. Plus they will have parts to make hasty repairs to your equipment. Again these locations will usually have a main door and emergency exits plus a loading bay door. The glass fronts of these buildings is hard tempered glass that would be hard (not impossible) for a Zed to get through.
#3 Bait and tackle stores- these will have fishing gear and tackle, most every one that I have been in will also have a limited ammount of camping equipment and those disposable propane tanks, many will also carry a stock of the most common hunting ammunition in that area. There will also be a supply of convience store type food stuffs and beverages. (Think easy eat and long storage times)
#4 Pawn Shops- After the initial attack these will quickly be stripped of the guns and limited ammunition but there will still be other usable items laying around. Plus you might get lucky and find one that has not been sacked yet. There should also be a limited first aid kit in the store.
#5 Tourist Attractions- These will all be avoided in the initial outbreak but they will have a consession area and vending machines, beverages, first aid kits, and since they are not thought of will be a great place to get off the radar of the other groups scavanging for equipment and food.
#6 Museum- There are massive gun museums in the United States. They have a showroom floor that will have guns hanging in the racks and they also have back rooms to store guns in. While many of these guns do not work they may contain vital parts that will get yours up and running. Many or docommisioned for the display but to preserve the historical value of the weapon the parts that will make it work will be stored in the back of the building. There will also be vending machines and consessions, first aid equipment, and finally the building will be a secure site to hole up in.
#7 Lake Dams- Many of the dams built in the United States during the Cold War will have built in fallout shelters. Some of these may be stocked with food and supplys. They will be incredably easy to defend do to the long coridors under the dam and the access points that are designed for security in the first place. So even an unstocked fallout shelter is a great place to fall back to if you have rounded up some food and water supplys. Some even have small hydrogenerators to power the Corps of Engineers buildings. So you may have electricity and that will be a huge bonus.
#8 Check old Civil Defense brochures for your area to get a list of building that are blast hardened. The American Civil Defense no longer exists(???) but the paperwork they generated still does. These will be great positions to get to and defend if you have the supplys to do so.
These are just some ideas right off the top of my head. There are many more locations to get materials. I would say that the living will be every bit as dangerous as the undead in the first few weeks to months. So avoiding the mob mentlaity will keep you safer than joining in to get what you can.
Juan Perez on 23 Aug 2009 at 6:28 pm #
Hi everybody. I´m from Chile (South America).. In my city the police stations and military bases aren´t good idea (not very well guarded), But there are a few big houses over the hills, surrounded by woods. That would be a good idea or just is walking into de wolf`s mouth?
Priad on 28 Aug 2009 at 4:12 pm #
My idea of a place has been sketched out far ahead. Steal a boat (which i no how to use) sail to the chesapeake bay area, find an island, and with the small group that i have gotten together already (all of which know how to grow and hunt for food) fortify said island fencing it off from the zeds in the water. Then we would procede to raid nearby land which is good because land is no farther than 20 miles from the island I already picked out. I could hold this area almost indefinately due to the fertile soil and the plentiful game there not to mention fishing and crabbing
ZDaySurvivor on 01 Sep 2009 at 12:41 pm #
Priad, where is this island you are talking about? Does it have a name? I live on the Hudson River, very close to New York City. I was planning on stealing a boat also, but could not decide on an island. The Chesapeake Bay isn’t far away. Maybe, just maybe, we might meet on ZDay.
I would (obviously) go to an island. They are more easily defended as the odds a zombie would reach the island are much lower than be on the mainland. Also, fishing is another source of food.
And to answer your question, Juan Perez, they might be good idea, if you live close and the people who live there are willing to let you in. But, they might have to many windows and entrances. If you want to really find out, go look at them, and assess the defendibility. Its your call.
ThatScoutKid on 02 Sep 2009 at 2:04 am #
id stay at my house. my family cans food so we have a shit ton of non perishable food.we are live on the west coast ( a small town in oregon called brookings) we are all hunters fishers and foragers. we have a decent sized house and lot. we have 12 high caliber rifles two pistols and a few 22.s the windows in my house are all small and we have a fenced off back yard. lost of animals my dad was a marine and was damn good at it. we can all shoot and stay cool under pressure. good ammo and water stores and i have a backup bunker under my house that i made. we have a large attic full of cloths and building materials. same with the garage.lots of funiture a wood stove 3 to 4 years of wood 2 boats 4 cars two generators lots of oil and gas plenty of tools and fishing supplies. we even make our own lead mold for bullets and fishing lures. we have lots of good hunter friends and are near a gated community and 100 ft from the beach. how do you guys think im gonna do? =)
ThatScoutKid on 02 Sep 2009 at 2:06 am #
oh yeah and two working travel trailers(one fully stocked) and we have lots of animals not lost of animal soz =)
Priad on 03 Sep 2009 at 3:37 pm #
Well zday here is the name. Tilghman Island. It is a place ive spent alot of time on, you should definitely make your way over there once it happens, if we meet up our groups can get together and stand a better chance, tilghman is only 11 miles from the naval academy and there is a bridge that can easily be destroyed connecting it to the main land, my out post is on the very tip of the island where there is only a 200 ft walk to the bay
Priad on 03 Sep 2009 at 3:38 pm #
Well zday here is the name. Tilghman Island. It is a place ive spent alot of time on, you should definitely make your way over there once it happens, if we meet up our groups can get together and stand a better chance, tilghman is only 11 miles from the naval academy and there is a bridge that can easily be destroyed connecting it to the main land, my out post is on the very tip of the island where there is only a 200 ft walk to the ocean
Priad on 03 Sep 2009 at 3:38 pm #
srry it seems my post went through twice due to my own error
ZDaySurvivor on 09 Sep 2009 at 4:31 pm #
Thanks Priad! I’ll look it up on Google Maps later. Thanks again!
Trail on 20 Sep 2009 at 1:08 pm #
I think I would head to my work. It is a camping/hiking retail store. I don’t think it is a place people would think to heard to because we don’t have guns or ammo. What we do have is lots of food and fuel. There’s easily enough food for 5 months with 2 people and more than enough fuel. Water could be a potential issue though, also no roof access but it may be possible to work through the ceiling and hack a whole in to roof. We do have lots of ladders.
Koen Phoenix on 22 Sep 2009 at 11:42 am #
If I may be so bold, if you live in a city chances are high that they have something we all find revolting but the proper gear could make them a haven. Sewers. Nobody goes into the sewers, they lead everywhere and you can peak up into the surface, without the proper tools you can’t lift them so even if you were spotted, drop in an instant and you’re still set. If it’s too heavy to lift from below, chances are high you don’t want to be there anyway. Sewers may be gross but they’re dead useful if you live in a big city as it could also provide an exit.
Koen Phoenix on 22 Sep 2009 at 11:49 am #
Another proposition is, surprisingly, strip clubs (if you’re in the US). Strip clubs often have no windows or glass you can’t see through. Triple X stores also are built similarly. They have more then one exit and one entrance (they have emergency exits like any business). Nobody thinks to go to them and they have storage places for food, sometimes even buffet’s which means refrigerators. You probably could easily hook up a generator to them to keep them working. You could even turn lights on inside without worrying about revealing yourself. It’s hilariously ironic, but it’s still true.
James on 29 Sep 2009 at 3:57 pm #
You know what? I’m going to be THAT guy and go to the shopping mall, seeing as when the zombie invasion strikes (hopefully not here at first or this plan is fubar already) everyone will (or hopefully should be) posted on it’s situation, and so be warey when headed out to shop, etc. So not as many pople will be in the Mall, most will be thinking “I’ll go to the army base! they’ve got guns and fences!”. And there’ll be lil old me all on my own with perhaps a few zombies/survivors (or somewhere inbetween) to get rid of/help.
Anyway, the guys in Dawn of the Dead decided to leave the mall, which was a great place to be, and head for an island. They only muffed up when that muppet doesn’t open the door to let them back in from their mission to the gun store…
jojojeje on 04 Oct 2009 at 4:56 am #
There are other places which horde food and will not be thought of in the first instance in an outbreak – schools, camping stores (hydrated meals) etc. Of course these won’t last you long, but they would have other supplies worthwhile liberating whilst everyone else is panicking.
jojojeje on 04 Oct 2009 at 4:58 am #
Hotels, cafe shops. fast food chains, charity places (ie red cross)…
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ivan on 01 Nov 2009 at 11:13 pm #
i think that all of yal are going to die exept shapshooter cuz he is the only one who has it figured out………… nice planning
iz on 07 Nov 2009 at 11:11 pm #
what i would do is get woodland camo and go live out in the woods and have a really nice bike and a off road for emergency uses, same as guns. they are loud and attract zombies, so i would use knifes swords machetis, silenced pistols and if its at the point where stuff like that are useless, i would just start shooting. i would get first aid kits (my mom is a nurse) and have an under ground room somewhere just in case zoms find me out and bring their buddies with em. i would pick a place in woods, by water.
Angryvikingman on 08 Nov 2009 at 2:46 pm #
Priad, I say leave the bridge and guard it. If the numbers of undead get too great, you can always blow it up as they cross.
LordHuck on 16 Nov 2009 at 7:15 am #
When deciding where to flee to or where to settle take these things into account.
Avoid areas with nuclear power plants. Give these areas a WIDE berth. With no one to maintain the systems they will most likely have a meltdown and eradiate the surrounding area.
Avoid areas beneath large dams. With no one to maintain the equipment or regulate the water flow the dams will burst.
Avoid settling in the flood plane of any large river….depending on the river that can be over a mile away or more. Remember the dams are not working…so rivers will flood severely and often.
Avoid areas prone to Tornados, hurricanes tropical storms. Remember the red cross is not coming to save you.
sgtlongo on 22 Dec 2009 at 12:10 am #
i got this right now no one else thought of this junk yard after i get some supplies together first the i head streat to the junk yard like really how many people would think of the junk yard its got lots of parts for generters or vehicles i could dig a big trench or something around it and then build the biggest fortification ever if your ass is bit you aint coming in anybody else fell free to come on in
fuck fission on 24 Feb 2010 at 10:06 pm #
i thimk you should carry a radiation suit oxgyen tanks silver armor and bullets and a machine gun and have a friend use a motar so you could blast them to dust and the silver would ward them of i would have some kind of aircraft lots of fuel for it and ammo a . then i would go to the nearist nuclear bunker have3 a concret wall built and then build a greenhouse and have a aqqurim for breeding shelfish and sea animals that are edibile then i could grow plants for medicine and eating and i could eat meat. all i would neeed is a sillver shield bullets made of silver a a gun store nearby a motar glass instant concrete mix water 5 friends a aircraft like a helicopter or airplane some trees a hachet matches and seeds and that is it
fuck fission on 24 Feb 2010 at 10:10 pm #
i forgot the solar panels at a construction store and the generater to make the electricity
ThatScoutKid on 24 Mar 2010 at 4:35 am #
sharpshooter, i found some flares a fred meyers, not sure if you have one, they were three bucks for the short 15 minute ones. but they are road flares and not marine grade so not very water proof. i also have a flare gun with 4 rounds, which are plastic and waterproof. a bit late on the reply maybe but i just went through and started reading some older posts that i missed and i thought id share.
Angryvikingman on 24 Mar 2010 at 11:00 pm #
Personally, I’d rather have glow sticks. They last for 8 hours+ and are cheaper than flares. For signaling, yes, a flare gun is better.
irock1234321 on 07 Aug 2010 at 12:49 pm #
Everybody thinks that zombies don’t exist and that it’s impossible for this to happen,when they’re getting eaten alive,they’ll realize how wrong they were. around my house I have a bunch of stuff i could use as weapons,and a lot of stores nearby,but,not many people live around here…
Joe on 08 Sep 2010 at 12:44 am #
The original ‘Dawn of the Dead’ freaked me out so much as a child, that it turned me into a Survivalist. ‘First Blood’ followed not long after, so I joined the Army. Since then, I’ve had some survival situations when I was without an apartment & a job. I’ve used my knowledge of survival to get through the rough times. Including the one I’m in now. I’m all grown up now, middle-aged & still pondering -when it delights me to- the possibility of a Zombie plague suddenly breaking out in the world. Just like the many people warned about preparing for natural disasters, I too would rather spend my cash on other things rather then supplies & gear. What I’ve learned living my own urban survival situations is that you can’t really carry too much, because it adds weight to your pack, which creates fatigue; plus it slows you down. There are really not that many things you need to carry. A weapon, swiss army knife with hole punch & can opener. hygiene items, first-aid kit, flashlight, matches, lighter, batteries, food, water, change of clothes, cold weather sleeping bag, tarp/tent, combat knife, leather jacket, scarf, gloves, hoodie, thermal wear, boots, sneakers, something that means something like photo, bible, etc. Tablet and pen, pencil, black sharpie marker, cup, knife/fork/spoon set. There may be some other items, but this is a basic bug out kit & made for travel. The thing about a Zombie plague is that it really is a no-win situation, and that’s why it is such a horrible situation to consider and makes for a scary movie. Once it becomes pandemic, there is no safe place, & unless you have a secure place to farm, how will you sustain your body nutritionally? Food-runs will eventually yield nothing, & fuel will be hard to come by for cars. Walking in the hoards of dead hungry for your flesh would be out of the question, & if you have a complex, eventually someone will die & compromise your secure environment. Can a human being survive for say thirty or forty years depending on their age, after the plague hits? I would like to believe it is possible, but if you are just left with the kit in your car and some guns -that will eventually need ammo, which will be hard to come by- makes it seem like it will be in the hands of chance & probability in deciding who could survive, rather than what gear or structure you hold up in, it will come down to an indepth and expensive plan. This becomes even worse if the zombies are the running type like in the ‘Dawn of the Dead’ remake. However, I think that if we can secure a compound like a prison, fort, or someplace very isolated that has land suitable for unlimited farming & stockpiling and we can guard the perimeter 24 hours a day with a revolving sentry detail and so on, then maybe there’s a chance. This would take others though. On your own, a loner, in a zombie world. The chances are slim that you can live a long life without being eaten or succumbing to starvation. The zombie scenerio is a nightmare. Just remember to save a bullet for yourself just in case. There is also the chance that the tissue that runs them will eventually break down to the point that they will just drop dead, or is it drop alive? So the key would be to wait it out in a safe fortress with controls and protocols in place for all contingencies. If they are strong & can chase you down, that will just be utter doomsday. Remember that if you are surviving, that there are no friendlys out there. Even a fellow survivor could turn into your worse enemy & put you, or your team at risk. Awareness, alertness, and attitude will be your best friend. If you are in a group, be of service, but don’t be lulled into unnecessary risk-taking. Teamwork counts, but just as in non-zombie life, there are stupid people that make stupid choices, and be on look out for them just as much as the walking dead.
Elder on 27 Sep 2010 at 2:51 am #
I think the thing to do is to load up on basic non perishables and Munitions in advanced. Or moreover to collect everything you need that couldn’t be easily scavenged a month into the infection after TSHTF.
Example: Getting Weapons, ammo, food, vehicle, CB radio, maps, ect beforehand
and than getting things like green house supplys and more secure transportation
big bear29 on 26 Oct 2010 at 5:09 pm #
Where NOT to go
1. Police stations
The first responders to the outbreak will always be the cops and if they think the person is high or just nuts they will likely take them back to the police station . It is very likely that while subdueing the zombie one of the cops will get bitten , so now there is one zombie possibly locked up in the cell of a police station with all the other people that have been arrested or it is in an interrogation room . Also there is the infected cop who could turn at any moment and attack the other police officers . Now the zombie in the cell could potentially infect the other people in the cell creating a small army that could break out and swarm the police station . So going to the police station is a very bad idea .
2. Hospitals
Are you serious , hospitals will be even more dangerous than police stations because there are more people in them . When there is any kind of an outbreak where do people go , the hospital . The hospital is where they would be treating the people injured by the zombies and storing the bodies of the people killed by them . So once people start turning into zombies things will get very bad at that hospital very quickly .
3. Prisons
If you happen to find a prison that is completely abandoned and is fully stocked then good for you . But that is highly unlikely , if the prison is still home to the prisoners , infected or not that is the last place you want to be . Going to a prison full of angry cons to escape the zombies is no better than being rescued from a shark attack by a hungry grizzly bear .
4. Malls & department stores
I always end up laughing at this one . So many people say stuff like
” I’ll go hide in the mall ” well lets go over the problems with that shall we . First of malls and stores all have glass fronts and while some of that glass is double or even triple the thickness of normal store windows it is not shatter proof like they show in the movies . The weight of the zombies pressing against it will break the glass and while some malls and stores have sliding grates behind the glass as an additional security measure they will not last long . Secondly food is a limited commodity in any store , it will run out faster than you can eat it , most of the food in a store has a very limited shelf life . Third there are those that say that they would set up a garden on the roof of the store , apperently they never to took a really good look at those roofs . They are not there to support the weight of a garden they are there to keep the elements out , most of the roofs would buckle under the weight of a garden large enough to feed a group of people . Also it takes several weeks sometimes to grow a garden to the point where it can be harvested for food and it is very likely that the stores food won’t last that long . Four you are not the only person on the planet to have this brilliant idea , there will be a lot of people trying to set up shop in the same store and raid it for supplies and that will draw the attention of the zombies .
5. Military bases
These places will suffer the same fate as the police stations and the hospitals . When the cops get taken out it will be up to the military to take care of the people and when they do this they will begin evacuating people into their base , this will include the people who have been attacked by the zombies and just have not turned yet . While the military could likely deal with the external threat they would not be able to handle the internal threat at the same time . Plus you will have some survivors and soldiers taking supplies and escaping because they realize that the base will fall eventually . And to top it all off military base aren’t as impregnable as many seem to think . I live near a major air base and that place still has a bunch of places where people can get in and out without being detected .
6. Bunkers
Lets be realistic folks yes bunkers are all over the place , but the people and groups that have them will likely not open them up just to let you in and when the crap hits the fan they will be in those bunkers before you ever show up to claim it as your own . So unless you have your own bunker or happen to know of a secret bunker that nobody else knows about you should just forget about it . Hoping that you will find a fully stocked bunker that is not inhabited is wishful thinking .
7 Forests
I honestly can’t rap my head around this one . So many people say that they would go and hide in the forest and that is usually the extent of their survival plan , they must think that trees are some form of zombie kryptonite . Guess what if the zombies run out of people to eat in the city they will eventually spread out and move into the areas where people have gathered and where have so many of you decided to hide at , the forest . Remeber folks a tree is just a tree it is not zombie kryptonite .
8. Basic Info
This will list three basic areas to avoid . I know that there are more that I could list but these are the ones I will list .
Nuclear reactors
After the outbreak you will have at most two weeks until the nuclear reactors have a meltdown . When that happens there will be a massive amount of radiation in the air and the fallout can be spread for a couple hundred miles depending on the the weather . There are something like fifty seven nuclear power plants in the united states and most of those are in the eastern half of the country .
Dams
There are over seventy five thousand dams in the U.S. and you should never set up your base under any of them . Each dam requires constant TLC , these things have millions of tons of water pressing against them at all times , sometimes more , and when they break they can cause massive damage . Some ” EXPERTS ” claim that dams can last for centuries but that is not true for most of the dams out there . If the spillway gets backed up with debris it will stop the excess water from running out and that will allow the water level to rise and put more pressure on the dam and the terrain that it is built into , eventually one of them will give in under the enormous pressure . Most dams build up enough debris that it has to be removed on a regular basis , but if nobody is there to remove it , it will just build up more and more and become a serious problem .
Relegious cults
Unfortunately it is very likely that some of the religious cults out there will survive and they could quickly become a greater threat than the zombies . I’m sure that some of you know what I’m talking about they are the fanatical loonies that believe that their god will kill all the non-believers and leave them to start up a purer human race . If you run into one of these cults they might just shoot you for being a heathen for not believing in the same god as them or they might sacrifice you to the zombies to appease their god . In my area of the country there is a cult that believes that all the people that don’t have the same beliefs as them will be wiped out in a nuclear war and they will be the survivors that inherit the earth . These whack jobs have two favorite hobbies stockpiling guns to use on anyone else that survives the apocalypse and inbreeding .
Angryvikingman on 26 Oct 2010 at 5:47 pm #
“Going to a prison full of angry cons to escape the zombies is no better than being rescued from a shark attack by a hungry grizzly bear.”
OMG! I almost crapped my pants laughing, but its very true. Prisons are made to keep people in. Unless you have a designated escape route and like 5 alternates, then you’re going to get caught inside and eaten/starve if a horde of zombies surround the place. Thats IF you manage to persuade the cons not to kill you. A small county facility may be your best bet. They have weapons, ammo, and food on hand. Also, small prisoner population.
As far as religious people. The first time I hear crap about “God’s Wrath” and all that crap you see in the movies where a religious nut turns the mob on someone, I’ll shoot them to wound and let them die a slow painful death at the hands of the zombies.
big bear29 on 01 Nov 2010 at 3:30 pm #
Here is an idea for some of you , find a large enclosed estate like a mansion or large house with a tall fence surronding the property and build it up into a modern fortress . I live in central texas and there are several properties around here that have a lone house or mansion located on a large piece of property and most of these homes have a brick fence about eight feet tall . While this would not keep the zombies out for long it would provide a relatively safe base to operate from . What you could do to make it safer is get a semi truck with a low boy trailer , for those of you that do not know that is one of those low to the ground trailers that you see bulldozers on , now go around and load up the steel cargo containers like you see on freighters , trains and being hauled by trucks . Now place those around the inside perimeter of the estate and stack them two high . You now have a large perimeter fence that the zombies will not be able to push down , if you feel that they may be able to push part of it in you can cut a hole in the top of the containers and fill it up with sand or concrete . These containers are fairly easy to find as a lot of large stores and companies use them for storage containers .
big bear29 on 19 Nov 2010 at 8:40 pm #
One location that I have been thinking about has been the old county court house in my home county . In some places you will see these old court houses that are several stories tall and made with thick stone walls and very few windows on the ground level . The one in my home county has walls nearly two feet thick and thick steel bars on all the windows and only three ways to get in and it would be very easy to barricade the doors .
While this one would not be that good for the long hual it could serve as a temporary base quite well and the police station is just a stones throw away as is a heavily stocked pawn shop , lots of extra guns there . Maintaining power and water at this building would be diffucult but not impossible . Also with the towns limited population and the buildings high vantage point it would be easy to pick off the zombies in short order and secure the whole town . Plus since it is in the middle of nowhere any zombies would likely get taken out by coyotes and wild dogs or the damn wild hogs , these pigs hit 180 lbs. on average and are mean as hell , long before they could reach the town .
animal491 on 06 Mar 2011 at 10:18 pm #
Quite honestly.. I’d wish to obtain a large party and head to he inca city of Machu Picchu,
1-established irrigation
2- no one “sight-see’s” while zombies are about
3- a considerably lower population density in surrounding areas
4- able to potentially house civilization
but means of power
ammunition, and seeds will need to be brought before hand
josh on 17 May 2011 at 11:48 am #
i thing is i live on a farm and have a abunditns of supplys (i.e cattle, ponds, free game and oyea redneck so plinty of guns and ammo) 3 weeks is to soon me and my group (if they make it) could ezly wait out a mnth out here. then its off to looting in the chaos many that that did loot would have ether moved on or died trying to ge out of it finding supplys on the streets and what was left behind rule of thumb.
take every thing becuze you will most likly find somthing to go with it
Reina on 13 Jul 2011 at 8:54 pm #
I think that my shopping mall is safe i know all the exits and my way around on the back of my hand plus food shops in side and clothing and tunza fun XD any way gun shop down stairs with real swords and shelds and stuff thats where i b going
Someone Awesome on 04 Aug 2011 at 9:13 am #
I would head for a frickin gun shop. no doubt
Dark wolf viking on 18 Oct 2011 at 9:33 pm #
I would head for a castle heavily fortified lots of room and can grow and farm inside and I would get there in my pick up truck with welded armor on the windows and grill of the truck and make chain mail armor and leather to prevent bites and bring my viking axe and sword to save ammo and prevent noise from attracting more zombies or just make pipe bombs and be better if you find a castle on an island be much better all you have to is patrol the beach and worrie about other people trying to kill you for your stuff