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		<title>By: Reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you died the gases i your body expand, which makes me believe that a zombie will float rather then walk the floor of the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you died the gases i your body expand, which makes me believe that a zombie will float rather then walk the floor of the water.</p>
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		<title>By: Semper Cogitant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semper Cogitant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Staying permanently at sea wouldn&#039;t work unless you had a very large vessel and a group of people large enough to maintain and operate it.  There are no waters in the ocean that are not affected by severe weather at some point and in any small craft you&#039;d likely founder eventually.

A power boat is not a great long term idea because things break and fuel runs out and it might be a long swim back to land.  A sailboat is a better idea but still not perfect.

I&#039;ve though about a decent size sailboat and wintering in protected areas like some of the coves and inlets on the uninhabited or almost uninhabited islands off California.  The problem is that many thousands of boats will be headed to those islands in the days after the outbreak and they will bring infected people with them who will become zombies shortly after they die.  As likely as not there will be a lot of Zs staggering around those islands.

As for resources, in many coastal areas fishing will be easy, and as long as you can make heat a still will get you fresh water.

There will be millions of boats trying to make it all over the world, many will sink, many will start with infected people aboard and be manned by only zombies fairly soon.  There will be a lot of piracy, a lot of desperate people willing to kill you or be killed by you, and  while a boat is easy to defend from zombies, it&#039;s not so easy to defend from determined groups of live attackers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Staying permanently at sea wouldn&#8217;t work unless you had a very large vessel and a group of people large enough to maintain and operate it.  There are no waters in the ocean that are not affected by severe weather at some point and in any small craft you&#8217;d likely founder eventually.</p>
<p>A power boat is not a great long term idea because things break and fuel runs out and it might be a long swim back to land.  A sailboat is a better idea but still not perfect.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve though about a decent size sailboat and wintering in protected areas like some of the coves and inlets on the uninhabited or almost uninhabited islands off California.  The problem is that many thousands of boats will be headed to those islands in the days after the outbreak and they will bring infected people with them who will become zombies shortly after they die.  As likely as not there will be a lot of Zs staggering around those islands.</p>
<p>As for resources, in many coastal areas fishing will be easy, and as long as you can make heat a still will get you fresh water.</p>
<p>There will be millions of boats trying to make it all over the world, many will sink, many will start with infected people aboard and be manned by only zombies fairly soon.  There will be a lot of piracy, a lot of desperate people willing to kill you or be killed by you, and  while a boat is easy to defend from zombies, it&#8217;s not so easy to defend from determined groups of live attackers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t expect to grow much on boats, the wind, rain and sea (salty) air would make it extremely difficult. Even on an island it will be difficult unless you have natural barriers. Depends where you are of course, but it&#039;s always going to be substantially harder than on mainland. 

TBH if I had a large amount of man- and fire-power I&#039;d be seriously thinking of trying to reclaim somewhere like Jersey/Guernsey as it&#039;s a big island with very good farming, and plausable to boat into France and UK for raids. With and island like that you could really have a safe community and a life.

Islands or boats should basically be invulnerable to Z&#039;s but beware any humans - boats and islands near a coast naturally attract attention and any lights at night will travel very far across the water. You also need a mechanic to keep the motor working or you can get yourself in real trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t expect to grow much on boats, the wind, rain and sea (salty) air would make it extremely difficult. Even on an island it will be difficult unless you have natural barriers. Depends where you are of course, but it&#8217;s always going to be substantially harder than on mainland. </p>
<p>TBH if I had a large amount of man- and fire-power I&#8217;d be seriously thinking of trying to reclaim somewhere like Jersey/Guernsey as it&#8217;s a big island with very good farming, and plausable to boat into France and UK for raids. With and island like that you could really have a safe community and a life.</p>
<p>Islands or boats should basically be invulnerable to Z&#8217;s but beware any humans &#8211; boats and islands near a coast naturally attract attention and any lights at night will travel very far across the water. You also need a mechanic to keep the motor working or you can get yourself in real trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: another mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>another mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angryvikingman, angle the murder holes so they can shoot at the surface of the door. Otherwise you leave a blind spot for zombies to pile up or someone to sit while they breach the door. Medieval castles had their galleries angled from the sides or above so there just wasn&#039;t anywhere against the walls or doors that was safe to loiter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angryvikingman, angle the murder holes so they can shoot at the surface of the door. Otherwise you leave a blind spot for zombies to pile up or someone to sit while they breach the door. Medieval castles had their galleries angled from the sides or above so there just wasn&#8217;t anywhere against the walls or doors that was safe to loiter.</p>
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		<title>By: Angryvikingman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angryvikingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to do one this summer, but didnt get enough interested parties.</description>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be so great. I&#039;d even go to America just for that camp :L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be so great. I&#8217;d even go to America just for that camp :L</p>
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		<title>By: Angryvikingman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angryvikingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, see, the beauty of that design is that its not set at any one size. The same design can be used to make a small apartment style bunker, or a bunker big enough for 20 or 30 people. Just change the room dimensions but keep the same design. The design will scale to fit any size that is needed up about fifty people. Instead of an apartment, it could be warehouse sized with the exact same design. 
It could contain one dining table, or it could be mess hall sized. See my meaning? 

Pretty much all of tennessee is hilly and mountainous, like northern georgia. Plenty of great places to hide a bunker. And IF I ever win the lottery, I&#039;ll build one, and I&#039;ll do a zombie survival camp there. Teach hand to hand, knife, and sword fighting. Survival skills, and lots of other neat things that you can use to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, see, the beauty of that design is that its not set at any one size. The same design can be used to make a small apartment style bunker, or a bunker big enough for 20 or 30 people. Just change the room dimensions but keep the same design. The design will scale to fit any size that is needed up about fifty people. Instead of an apartment, it could be warehouse sized with the exact same design.<br />
It could contain one dining table, or it could be mess hall sized. See my meaning? </p>
<p>Pretty much all of tennessee is hilly and mountainous, like northern georgia. Plenty of great places to hide a bunker. And IF I ever win the lottery, I&#8217;ll build one, and I&#8217;ll do a zombie survival camp there. Teach hand to hand, knife, and sword fighting. Survival skills, and lots of other neat things that you can use to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: 3ID</title>
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		<dc:creator>3ID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Angryvikingman
Win the lottry good luck if you do give me a shout i will come help as long as i can stay in there to when the world ends. also you live in TN you live in the hilly area or flatter ground because if it the hill you can have a great buncker and nobody would evan know you have it but i think if you won the lottry it would be bigger that seems kind of small just me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Angryvikingman<br />
Win the lottry good luck if you do give me a shout i will come help as long as i can stay in there to when the world ends. also you live in TN you live in the hilly area or flatter ground because if it the hill you can have a great buncker and nobody would evan know you have it but i think if you won the lottry it would be bigger that seems kind of small just me</p>
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		<title>By: Angryvikingman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angryvikingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ dib5th:

Yeah, generally a bunker is built like that. 

@ Sharpshooter:

That&#039;s my &quot;IF I won the lottery&quot; bunker. 

If I was still single, I would build one like that. One bag of cement, and one concrete block at a time. You can rent equipment for earth moving and breaking the rock. Just water proof the walls, back fill the area with loose dirt, form up the ceiling, then have a concrete truck come in and pour the roof as a &quot;foundation slab&quot; for a house. Trust me, you can do 90% of it by yourself if you&#039;re not an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ dib5th:</p>
<p>Yeah, generally a bunker is built like that. </p>
<p>@ Sharpshooter:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my &#8220;IF I won the lottery&#8221; bunker. </p>
<p>If I was still single, I would build one like that. One bag of cement, and one concrete block at a time. You can rent equipment for earth moving and breaking the rock. Just water proof the walls, back fill the area with loose dirt, form up the ceiling, then have a concrete truck come in and pour the roof as a &#8220;foundation slab&#8221; for a house. Trust me, you can do 90% of it by yourself if you&#8217;re not an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: dib5th</title>
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		<dc:creator>dib5th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>angry viking  the bunker you drew up looks very good if it is in a cliff or hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angry viking  the bunker you drew up looks very good if it is in a cliff or hill</p>
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