Mental Breakdown in a Total Collapse
While there are many of us who have worked many years and taken an active interest in preparing ourselves physically and mentally for the trials and tribulations that the world may send our way. In a complete collapse we may be surprised at some of the scenes and acts that cross our path
When the world as we know it comes to a smashing halt and everything is crashing down it may be surprising to some that there will be happenings that nearly boggle the mind and at times will truly disgust one.
1. The first incident that one should prepare for is suicides. Those who are unable to stand by and watch the Faberge egg of their life that they knew crumble may be in a state of despair and unable to take this new strain. In this situation they may take their own life. This, however, is not nearly as disturbing as the ones who will take their entire families with them to the grave in a scene reminiscent of the emperors of China who had their wives and concubines buried with them. If you search an abandoned house be prepared to find the very worst.
2. Whole sale destruction. Once the zombies walk the Earth be prepared to see scenes that would seem more appropriate in a special on World War II and the fire bombings of Europe. There will be vandalism, destruction of property, and attempts to control the zombie population that will go horribly wrong. Also take into account those who will fight among themselves or those who will use Molotov’s in situations where a bullet would be better advised, also there will be those who decide to destroy everything that they own rather than see it fall into the hands of others. It is very possible that you will see areas that you once frequented and find them unrecognizable.
3. Cannibalism. Yes, while the undead will be seeking out your flesh there will those who will resort to cannibalism to save themselves. This is one sight that if mankind survives those who survived may recall seeing. While there may be those who resort to it as an emergency means, and may show mental scars from the incident afterwards, there will be those who see long pig as little more than another menu option that serves multiple purposes of not just feeding them but eliminating the competition.
4. Lastly, there will be the threat of gangs that form from the gang members that survive the initial outbreak. Gang members have an unfortunate advantage over the average person in that they are use to what most would consider horrid conditions. There are many times where police will do a raid on an apartment and find little more than the suspect and an air mattress. These people, if you can call them people, are ultraviolent, have no qualms about killing or inflicting pain, and have been desensitized from a life living at the very lowest rung of society. These gangs and gang members may actually be more of a danger in some areas than the zombies themselves, and almost as voracious in their appetite for destruction.
In the end, there will be those who can adapt and those who can’t.
Comments (66)
McLuvin on 01 Sep 2009 at 8:59 pm #
People have always been generally weak minded. They will surely come up with
myriad ways to astound us after the Zompocalypse. You hear all the time about people
freaking out or having breakdowns because Starbucks forgot the whip on thier mocha
or Burger King wouldn’t make it thier way, imagine how they will react after something
really bad. I’m sure we will see the types that Kain listed and more. I probably am most
at risk for going into total survival mode and shooting everything that moves, zombie
or not. I can only imagine after months of everything that comes within range trying to
eat me I would adopt a shoot first mentality. The survivors that resort to cannibalism
would suffer some permanent mental scars unless they have already snapped at that
point and then they are most likely beyond help anyway. Quizzlings would be the most
extreme example of mental breakdown I think. They find it so hard to grasp what is
unfolding around them that they start to mimic the zombies even though they have not
been infected. They find it easier to give in to what they fear most than to fight at all.
Another great article Kain.
Darkstar13 on 01 Sep 2009 at 10:08 pm #
I think the only thing missed in this one is the ones that will shoot anything that moves.
I admit that after a while I might be one of those I would still attempt to keep from that
frame of mind. Also like everything else here at ZAC this probably won’t cover everything.
People have and will always surprise me even more so when Z-day comes to pass.
Again another great read.l
Angryvikingman on 02 Sep 2009 at 3:21 am #
As long as I can get food, I’ll be ok. I’ve been shot, stabbed, and beaten, and I’m still reasonably well adjusted. I’ve seen people shot to death less than five feet from me. I’ve pulled broken bodies out of car wrecks. I’ve been literally covered in blood. Mine and other peoples. I’ve eaten just about every kind of wild animal that lives in Tennessee short of groundhog, possum, and skunk. I’ve had my hands in all kinds of animal guts. I know well the smell of rotting flesh. I own lots of guns and ammo. If I havent gone crazy by now, then not having to go to work and stare at hundreds of thousands of biscuit cans going by because the world has just about come to an end isnt really going to bother me too much as long as my wife and son survive. I’d be very sad if they or anyone I cared about died, but I don’t really think that itd push me over the brink so far as to do anything as stupid as kill myself. Cannibalism…. Well, its always an option. A last resort of course, but still an option. In the types of situations that I would perhaps face, murdering would be almost second nature. Yeah, that first one might make me feel bad, but I think I’ll be ok. I felt bad the first time I killed an animal when hunting, but it really doesnt bother me anymore. When the shit hits the fan, you’d be surprised what you find yourself capable of.
Ryan Elliott on 02 Sep 2009 at 3:57 am #
I’m in the process of becomming an undertaker, I desisitized myself from my emotions when I was about 10 though. I’ve also come to the realization that from this point on in order for me to live others must die. Its not much to wrap your brain around when you stick to the rational thoughts instead of the emotional ones. As far as expecting the worst, I dream the worst case scenario type things you are talking about every night. Every night I see my family or some family I know in that same situation, I’ve grown accustomed to the mental assaults from inside myself and began to enjoy some of them at a point. I’m not saying that there isn’t some 1 thing thats just going to knock me off my feet for a long time because its so shocking, but the people who shoot themselves in the head with shotguns, burn themselves alive, hang themselves, blow themselves up and even jump off of buildings and then also do this with or to their whole family I can handle, the only way that it would get to me is if there were more than a couple childeren all killed by that person they trusted without the slightest doubt of that person’s intentions. But it would probably have to be a bunch of slaughtered orphans or something for me to come close to a mental breakdown.
Ronin666 on 02 Sep 2009 at 7:58 am #
Bunch of people talking about zombies and how they aren’t already crazy :P
3ID on 02 Sep 2009 at 8:01 am #
i look forward to the end of the world alot more freedom in my opion if i raid a house to find a hole family murdered i would say thats sucks and look for supplies caniblisam is different if i had to come to it maybe but i hope it not somebody i now it would be hard to eat a BBQ sandwich of bob even if it is tastie the last one though the gangs and what not i would shoot on site i could care less for those poeple they are a disgrace to humanity.
jay on 02 Sep 2009 at 9:42 am #
were just have to wait and see what happens on the day
Caleb Hader on 02 Sep 2009 at 5:23 pm #
I would like to say I could distance myself from my feelings in order to do what I need to to survive, but the truth is is that I have never really had to deal with all that, my exhistance has, for the most part, been kinda cushy. I would like to star going hunting with my dad as soon as i get a rifle so that when the time comes that I need to huunt to survive, I don’t go into that whole sissy “ahh it’s bambie” moments that could make me either lose focus, or not take the shot entireley. I guess when it comes down to it, I’ll have to wait and see what happens when I witness these atrocities. I am lucky in the fact, at least for mental stability anyway, I tend to look at things from I guess what you could say, a “scientific” point of view, in that: I tend to not be very emotional, don’t really know why. An example of this is, my very best friend who I’ve know since I can remember, just moved to a different state, it was sad. but, I did’nt start to cry, I just sort of, i don’t really know how to describe it, It was like a mixture of when you accept something for what it is, and when you know you can’t change something. but the good knews is he only move about 5 hours away, so that’s not so bad.
Ryan Elliott on 02 Sep 2009 at 9:17 pm #
In all likelyhood I’ll enjoy the apocolypse because I’ll finally be able to stop restraining my urges to hurt things. I wasn’t always like this obviously as a child I was still an annoying child until I lost a sister which started my downhill trend towards violent thoughts and lack of emotion. I didn’t completely seal off my emotions however until my best friend killed herself playing russian roulette, fucking dumbass did exactly what everyone would have expected her to do on what was probably a dare. This obviously became the point where I stopped giving a rats ass about people’s lives and started wanting people to die for any reason imagineable just to satisfy that deep desire to see everything end. I’m not suicidal, in fact I would much rather stay here and enjoy watching people have their problems and eventually die off than die and not be able to see any of it. I will most likely turn out to be one of those guys who kills other survivors for their supplies if I were to live through the zombpacalypse just because I could and for no reason beyond my own whims.
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:04 pm #
Well, Ryan I do thank you for sharing that wonderful tidbit, and don’t take this the wrong way or anything, but you are one seriously fucked up bunny rabbit. Again, no offense, but seriously… dude, I don’t whether to hug you or shoot you after that story. And I thought I had problems…Yikes!
And Ronin, no one ever said that they weren’t crazy on this site. And in truth the ones that we should really be scared of are the ones that think and say that they are perfectly sane. And in reality sanity is really based on what the majority are like, those in the minority are the ones that are considered insane. For that matter, something that will make some of you sleep less better at night, on average 4% of the total population is sociopathic, or in more layman terms psychopaths. Granted, only a small percentile are actually soulless murderers but that four percent does not for all intensive purposes have a what most of us would call a conscious.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
Andy on 03 Sep 2009 at 1:44 am #
Mental breakdowns are going to happen, no question. Some will crack at the first realisation that a shambler is coming toward them, some will crack only after they feel they are in a position that is fortified enough to allow them to sob for a good five hours straight, and some will hold it together until the wife, girlfriend, daughter, whatever gets infected and must be killed. I think I’d break if I ever had to lose one of my kids, but there wouldn’t even need to be a z-day for that. Anyone who says they will never break probably already did long ago. I don’t worry so much about whether I’ll be a hero or a sniveling pile on the floor…I just worry that I’m not prepared enough to save the ones I love. Oh, yeah…I could break down very easily if I knew I hadn’t done enough to protect them.
Ryan Elliott on 03 Sep 2009 at 4:42 am #
Yeah Kain I do have a few issues, not really anything to worry about until I snap which hasn’t happened yet and probably wont for a long time… but then again insanity creeps up on you and takes over before you realize it, god help whoever actually pushes me that far though. For the most part I’m just a bitter sadist who is too lazy to actually get up and hurt things for my own enjoyment. But we all have our issues which either will or won’t eventually work themselves out right?
I never exactly said I was sane either, just rational.
Ronin666 on 03 Sep 2009 at 7:48 am #
Talking about and and actually doing are two different things. I’d been a hunter for well over 20yrs, even kept myself from the poor house by shooting foxes at $25 a skin, then I took on armed security, let me tell you when you have a gun pointed at someone and your finger on the trigger, it’s suddenly a WHOLE different ball game. None of us know what we are capable of or not capable of untill the shit hits the fan, shooting that first zed will be a mind bender for anyone, more so for anyone who hasn’t killed anything before, and if it’s hand to hand close up and personal blood splattering brain mashing killing you WILL freak out.If you don’t I’ll shoot you because your more dangerous than a zed!
Sure you will de-sensitize to it after a while but I’m sure that first one will send quite a few over the edge.
Ryan, other peoples lives and what happens to them isn’t a basis for a mind set to run YOUR life by. Move on ,yes, it’s sad, but this is YOUR life,enjoy it for you, enjoy other people while they are here, forget yesterday, tomorrow is coming.
And yes, I’d enjoy an apocolypse, I may not survive it but hell I’d have a great time laughing at the people trying to call a lawyer to sue a zombie for biting.
3ID on 03 Sep 2009 at 8:06 am #
i think most poeple on this sight would enjoy a good apocolypse if there ever could be a “good” apocolypse but talking some things life is going to be a mind bender but as we were told in the army you look out for your budies it either your budy or the person trying to kill your budy andwe were also told to look at the person/zed as a target nothing more than a piece of paper hanging on a fence post now when it comes to hand to hand well ladie you will have to suck it up and get it over with Quick and Fast as for poeples issiuses i could not care less i am not an MD but if your in my group an love killing zombies well you welcome to becasue business will be booming
Priad on 03 Sep 2009 at 4:08 pm #
to be honest i am a sensetive person. I can deal with almost everything thrown at me but when it comes down to it i will mourn for the lost. Think of all the inocent people who will die if this comes to pass. I am prepared and have a plan but in the end, and i am still alive, I don’t know if i would be able to handle the things my group and I have done. I am not a part of the majority. I strike first and ask later, its my thoughts tht haunt me after things that I have done that scare me more than the zeds. But to stay sane during and after the apocalypse, I will write a history of the bravery of all the men and women who survived. It will be the only thing that keeps the wolf at the door. But who knows? Maybe the wolf growling at my minds door will only make me stronger……..
sean on 03 Sep 2009 at 7:18 pm #
just be grateful for the fact that you’re alive,enjoy the serenity of living life by your own means,stay quiet and hidden and take steps to preserve what little you have left,basically become a recluse.
although learn to enjoy your newfound freedom,cetainly survival is hard work…but that’s the trade off,love it or leave it you will need to get used to being independant but if you can manage that,well then the sky’s the limit and the world you make for yourself,will be the ultimate reward.
jay on 04 Sep 2009 at 10:38 am #
If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively.
That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada.
They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures.
The scientific paper is published in a book – Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress.
In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite.
But there is a serious side to the work.
In some respects, a zombie “plague” resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations.
My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it’s dead forever
Professor Neil Ferguson
In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win?
Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: “We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies.
“We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions.”
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To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose “classic” slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films.
“While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies – especially as there are many variables – we have decided not to consider these individuals,” the researchers said.
Back for good?
Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable.
In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity’s only hope is to “hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often”.
They added: “It’s imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else… we are all in a great deal of trouble.”
According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that “zombies can come back to life”.
Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government’s chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases.
“None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate,” said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College London.
“There are some viral infections – simple diseases like chicken pox have survived in very small communities. If you get it when you are very young, the virus stays with you and can re-occur as shingles, triggering a new chicken pox epidemic.”
Professor Smith? told BBC News: “When you try to model an unfamiliar disease, you try to find out what’s happening, try to approximate it. You then refine it, go back and try again.”
“We refined the model again and again to say… here’s how you would tackle an unfamiliar disease.”
Professor Ferguson went on to joke: “The paper considers something that many of us have worried about – particularly in our younger days – of what would be a feasible way of tackling an outbreak of a rapidly spreading zombie infection.
“My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it’s dead forever. So perhaps they are being a little over-pessimistic when they conclude that zombies might take over a city in three or four days.”
i thought that might be of some intrest
Adam on 04 Sep 2009 at 2:54 pm #
What about the “quislings”?
Yeah, I only just read World War Z the other day, but it’s probably that there will actually be people who do that. I think there’s something deeply disturbing about watching someone being eaten alive and not fighting back at all.
Me, I’m fairly sure I’d be okay with all the “horrors”. Cannibalism doesn’t bother me in the slightest, so long as it’s a last resort. Eating people for the fun of it is a bit twisted.
I’m completely desensitized to blood and gore. I’ve cut up dead bodies in a programme with my college, and so long as I don’t know the person, their death doesn’t affect me.
If everyone I knew/loved died, I’d probably start getting more and more reckless until eventually the zombies get me and i’d blow my own head off. But hopefully that wouldn’t happen.
Plus, I would love to just sit and watch the cities burn. I’m fascinated by fire. The destruction of property would be a peak of the apocalypse for me :L
jay on 04 Sep 2009 at 3:22 pm #
ADAM is that world war z any good mate?
Priad on 04 Sep 2009 at 3:34 pm #
Well back to the subject of insanity, I believe once a person who has been hearing the wolf at the door for some period of time will only destroy themselves. In conclusion my answer to this zombie apocalypse excercise is to let the wolf in. It is a win win situation. Think of the vikings in ancient times, they let the wolf in and broke down the barrier in their mind seperating man from beast. If the situation requires it any human who knows how can break down the wall and go “red”. Once in this state adrenaline is at a peak and a human turns essentially a “super human”. So my plan for when this comes is to demolish my mental barriers. Ive practiced it and have gone red before. I plan on leaving the barrier down until it is nesscesary to put it back up :) and ill suplement my time with the loads of books i have, cannibalism strikes a soft point in me tho, I would never do it, to be blunt if I find anyone doing it they will be shot, end of story, maybe I might even build a mote around the house, and everyonce in a wile when it gets to full douse the pit with flames to burn the remains of the zeds inside.
Priad on 04 Sep 2009 at 3:44 pm #
o and to answer your question jay……..It is fucking awesome!! perfectly written, brooks puts everything from the survival guide in there and it made me a very happy man when it came out.
jay on 05 Sep 2009 at 7:18 am #
cool ill be buying that book soon
Adam on 05 Sep 2009 at 8:58 am #
Priad has it in one. It is “fucking awesome”.
The writing style is great. To be honest, it’s the only way I can think of to write a realistic zombie apocalypse novel.
The only downside is it leaves you wanting more information.
it’s definitely worth buying.
As to mental breakdowns, today I found myself wondering how much life would really change so long as you can keep your family and friends alive. Even if it’s only some of them.
Maybe your lifestyle, but no more so than a change of career would.
Then again, I also found myself wishing it would happen today. Call me crazy, but I think I could thrive in a zombie attack, and enjoy every minute of it. Even the terrifying life-is-at-stake moments. I mean, in the UK most people go through life without ever really being in a life or death situation.
Priad on 05 Sep 2009 at 9:47 am #
Agreed adam i feel as though the world would be a much more simple place if the s**t hit the fan is what i am getting at. I feel as though modern society is smothering and strangling the human population with “fashion” and other crap we do not need. It would be like pushing the reset button on humankind. Most bad people would be destroyed and alot of people would die but it would be a new start. Someplace where we can start everything over and not worry so much about Nuclear missles or terrorists. A much much much simpler world…….
Angryvikingman on 05 Sep 2009 at 11:59 am #
Well, in america, shit is gonna hit the fan if the government doesnt pull its head out of its ass, and quit tip-toeing closer to socialism/fascism. Since The attorney general, Eric Holder, made a statement that people who are patriotic, own guns, and want government to get their noses out of our ass, are somehow domestic terrorists and to be feared. What a complete crock of horse crap. Evidently the entirety of our armed forces are domestic terrorists by that definition. What the hell has happened in the last year? I swear to god that Obama is the next Hitler. Think about it…
A candidate appears after years of the public being dis-satisfied with the way the government is running things and hes preaching change. Hes a very charismatic personality with great oratory skills. People flock by the thousands to hear him speak in public. Theres a large recession. The candidate is voted into office and hailed as the savior of the country. After gaining office, he pushes through bills for healthcare and gun laws. After a while he starts appointing Czars to oversee facets of everyday life and communications media, to stifle opposing voices, and promote himself and his wishes through propaganda.
Am I talking about Hitler or Obama? It hasnt all fallen into place the way it did with Hitler, but by GOD its headed that way. If that isnt almost the spitting image of the damn Anti-christ, then I dont know what is. Kinda reminds me of the book/movie “The Manchurian Candidate”. Tell me I’m not the only person thinking this?
Angryvikingman on 05 Sep 2009 at 12:10 pm #
I’m glad I live in a state that has passed a state soverignty resolution. More info about this can be found at:
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com
Montana has the best resolution. Its basically a big “Screw You” to the government. LOL!
Priad on 05 Sep 2009 at 2:23 pm #
dam i wish I lived in montana. Beautiful state and by far one of the best places to escape the zed apocalypse. It’s perfect, Beatiful and isolated but cold enough in the winter to freeze the zeds. as soon as I can I want to be transfered to an air force base in Montana because before the shit hits the fan they have people who will not be taken by suprise…..people like us. and another thing, i believe(though this is only a theory, and a crazy one at that) that 2012 will be the end of the world due to Obama and the zombie apocalypse. Its only a matter of time and since the mayans were so well educated they might be right. Think about it………2012 keeps getting closer and closer. Is this enough time to prepare for what is coming?
jay on 05 Sep 2009 at 2:34 pm #
if you keep your head down and train hard your be prepared for anything and
everything i train every day after work for a couple of hours but just keep your guard up
and keep an eye out for any strange things happing
Priad on 05 Sep 2009 at 7:53 pm #
i was at my local supermarket and picked up the new issue of special weapons. I came across a gun company called Charles daly defense. They have a nice looking long range ar15 called the DM4BE. anyone have an idea of if i should buy this or the m1 socom II?? heres the link http://www.charlesdalydefense.com/cdd15.asp any suggestions will be welcomed
McLuvin on 06 Sep 2009 at 3:24 am #
Buy the SOCOM II. Charles Daly has been importing firearms into this country on and off for decades with greatly varied results. The majority of CD’s products have been cheap knockoffs of famous designs and weren’t worth the metal they were made of. A couple decent guns over many years does not instill confidence.
Priad on 06 Sep 2009 at 9:39 am #
Thank you very much for your help mcluvin i am also torn between a paul chen elite tiger katana and a cold steel practical katana any suggestions? and my hand gun is the sig saur p226 should I invest in a backup with the mk 23 .45
Adam on 06 Sep 2009 at 10:48 am #
Did I really just see you start talking about 2012?
*glare*
The only reason the mayan calander doesn’t renew is because the all the mayans are dead so there’s no-one to renew it. And they weren’t well educated, they were up to their eyebrows in superstition and religion, not science or mathematics.
If the world ends on 2012, I’ll eat my hat.
Although, saying that. Killing off 90% of the worlds population would solve every major problem. The energy crisis would be over, there’d be no poverty or overcrowding, there’d be a much better chance of world unity because countries would have to co-operate, corruption would be severely reduced, the economy would be “fixed”, by which i mean re-organised so only useful stuff is being traded, rather than £3000 “designer jeans”. etc etc. It might even solve war, because what country wants to go to war after it’s already lost 90% of its people?
Now, I’m not actually an American, but I was reading the definition of a fascist nation the other day and it fits surprisingly well. To quote wikipedia:
“Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology[1][2][3][4] and a corporatist economic ideology. [5] Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.[6]
Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state.[7] Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.[8] Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept.[9]”
Of course, I’m not studying politics, so I could just be basing this on misconception and slander.
Incidentally, do any of you know of an online store where I could buy a claymore (sword, not mine) that’s actually battle-ready, rather than a cheap replica?
Caleb Hader on 06 Sep 2009 at 1:58 pm #
To adam: for your claymore, I’d really suggest armsofvalor.com , they have plenty of swords there by different companies (my favourite being gen2 for their durability and sheer toughness) of course if you want to spend more money and get a custom sword, john Lundemo is at odinblades.com and his work is superb. Hope that helps.
Personally, me, being of this newer generation of high school seniors, I hate my generation because I can literally count on my hand the number of people who understand the importance of what obama’s doing, In my mind it looks like he’s trying to make us into either a socialist or a communist nation, and 9 out of 10 people that I asked why they voted for him just said, “because he’s black”. Oh and if you haven’t heard, he’s going to try and force the country (schools anyway) to watch one of his speeches, and then he wants every class to have a lesson about it. Zis is socialist BS, and I know that he isn’t “making everyone do it”, but if they show this in my school, I’m walking out.The gall he portrays makes me sick.
Caleb Hader on 06 Sep 2009 at 2:00 pm #
PS: I loved World War Z too. one of my favourite books ever, definitely beat legend of drizzt.
jay on 06 Sep 2009 at 2:06 pm #
this country/world we live in is BULLSHIT the government is twisted as fuck
Angryvikingman on 06 Sep 2009 at 2:59 pm #
How could it be better than the Drizzt books?
Priad on 06 Sep 2009 at 4:00 pm #
Caleb i completely agree with you on obama. I bet 20 dollars he is a fucking puppet for something much bigger. Hes being fed ideas by his advisors who all have their own secret agenda. So its them first, everyone else second. O and on 2012 i better be seeing you eat your hat adam lol. I kindof wish this were to happen sooner because of all the problems it would solve and the benefits of a much simpler life. Swords of honor has some sick nasty swords. Most of them come from paul chen who happens to be one of the best companies in the world atm. And instead of a claymore I would rather have a shaolin spade, not hard to find just google it or you could buy a field katana which is fucking huge! perfect and light it beats the claymore in my opinion.
McLuvin on 06 Sep 2009 at 6:14 pm #
Priad, both swords are good quality. I would lean more towards the Cold Steel it may
not be as fancy, but Cold Steel makes some of the toughest knives and swords in the
world. If you have to use it on zeds you don’t need genuine silk handle wrap. You need
a blade that will outlast the threat. As for the Sig 226 you made an excellent choice. It
is one of the best combat handguns of the last fifty years. If you decide to buy a backup
gun I strongly suggest you get one in the same caliber as your primary. If you are
looking at the Mk 23 for a suppressed handgun I would instead recommend the USP 45
Tactical. It has most of the same features as the 23 without being overly large,
cumbersome, and ridiculously expensive.
Priad on 06 Sep 2009 at 6:49 pm #
thx alot mcluvin appreciate it emensly and if u had to choose…. field katana vs claymore…..and i looked at the mk23 because my cousin is a SEAL and he swears by its suppresion skills.
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 06 Sep 2009 at 11:53 pm #
Angryvikingman, you are not the only one thinks that Hitler and Obama are bed fellows. Trust, I’ve been saying it since well before the election. And the next jack off that plays the race card that I didn’t vote for him because I’m a racist is going to the emergency room is have my foot surgically removed from their fourth point of contact. What’s worse is that the jackass isn’t even black, he’s half white, and more of a racist than some KKK members. And for those of you preparing for civil uprising you won’t have to wait long. The figure at the moment is that by February, when unemployment runs out, there will be rioting and possible extreme violence. What’s wrong with this generation, that being mine, the idiot’s who are between just born and thirty, plus the ‘peace loving’ hippie pot heads, is that they think the government own them something. The government doesn’t own me jack and I don’t own it nothing either. Get out of my life, stop telling me what to do, think, and say. And for Christ sakes get the Fuck out of my life. If they think people who speak their thoughts are terrorists then they have already forgotten 9/11. This country is so screwed at the moment that I don’t know what to do. But, I will say this, be it zombies, invasion, or the government thinking they can come can take my freedoms, I WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT, AND I WILL NOT ROLE OVER AND DIE. THE ONLY THING THAT THEY CAN TAKE IS MY LIFE, FOR I WILL DIE A FREE MAN BEFORE I WILL LIVE AS A SLAVE TO A GOVERNMENT THAT SEES ME AS A NUMBER AND A THREAT TO IT’S PROPAGANDA.
Another thing that pisses me off and shows how far this country has fallen is that I have heard more about the movie 3oo and people bitching that it sucked because of this and that and that it was gay for this reason and that. No one, other than my close friends, seem to see that the movie was about fighting for what you believe and that dying in the service of that belief is something that should be remembered and respected. Bravery is a word with a meaning that is so foreign to my generation that it makes me violently ill.
Now, that I’m done venting for the minute, Priad, let me just say this about Charles Daly. They are crap. A number of years ago at a 4H in texas they had a kid who had just started shooting and they bought him a Charles daly over and under. The kids fired one round out of the bottom barrel, this was a brand new gun by the way, and the gun blew up on him. Six inches of the TOP barrel came back and went into the poor kid’s skull. If that is not reason enough to stay away from the POS then I don’t know what is. My advice, buy name brand, and quality. It’s is better to own one damn good gun, than a dozen shity ones.
And World War Z was very good, so were the Drizzt books, at least the first three that I read. But, trying to compare different genres just isn’t right nor does it do the books justice. Though I have my own favorite books, though most don’t have to do with zombies, most. Patient Zero was good, if you are looking for a ‘plausible’ zombie book, can’t remember the author. Other than that I love Clancy’s Without Remorse, and Rob Thurman’s Nightlife series was really good too, one of my favorite lines in regard to music in the first one. “If I can kill to it, it meets all my requirements.”
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
McLuvin on 07 Sep 2009 at 3:17 am #
Priad, while I don’t claim to be a sword expert, my choice is Katana.
I feel the lighter weight and smaller size make it an easier weapon to
use in almost any situation. I certainly respect the Claymore but I feel it would be harder for the average person to use.
Ryan Elliott on 07 Sep 2009 at 8:16 am #
Kain, dude, you’re fuckin’ awesome.
Adam on 07 Sep 2009 at 8:21 am #
hmm, well, I actually have a “wishlist” of several swords I’m after, but those websites are perfect for my melee arms collection. Thanks so much.
I prefer the claymore to the katana, and I have actually used both. I was slicing through wooden poles xD
I just love the power behind every swing of the claymore. Even if it got blunt, you could still use it as a pretty efficient club to beat skulls in.
I’m considering taking a holiday to America purely to learn to shoot. The only shooting i’ve ever done is at clay pigeons or with a paintball gun xD
Caleb Hader on 07 Sep 2009 at 8:39 am #
Kain that sums up what I feel, I just hate the fact that when I talk to my dad, he just says, “Well I feel sorry for your generation, in a few short years you’re all going to probably be paying 80 cents of every dollar you make to the gov’t.
And I did love drizzt, but I didn’t like the fact that after book 6 it sorta became wulfgar’s sad story. I mean ya you were tortured by a demon but get over it already haha. but man those first three were amazing I thought. Another good book I thought was Starcraft Ghost Nova by Keith R.A. DeCandido, I though it would be kind of a silly knockoff book about the game, but it turned out a lot better than expected.
To Mcluvin: not to say you’re wrong about weight, but a euro longsword isn’t too much heavier than a katana. A heavy longsword will weigh maybe, and I mean HEAVY and MAYBE, 3 and a half pounds. I personally like hand and a halfs, because of the long blade and good counterweight in the pommel that lets me use it one handed or two. I also found that, and this may just be me, you have to almost be artistic in your movements to swing it so the blade cuts as good as it can, whereas with my longsword, I can be a little less elegant and still get the job done. Hope that helps, again, my personal advice, don’t choose your sword, let it choose you. That May sound a little silly, but trust me I’m trying to sell 3 of my swords right now, two entry level katana, and a pseudo gladius with a horn buffalo handle. Contact if you’re interested. I may be able to work something out.
Priad on 07 Sep 2009 at 11:14 am #
Well kain………………you are the fucking man, you summed up all my feelings in one good entry and for that i thank you. Off topic i have seen online a kuhkri brass with brass knuckles in the handle…. Buy? and im looking for a good Fairbarn-sykes fighting knife any suggestions? my long rifle right now is a colt commando that my dad used in iraq but im looking for a long gun to shoot seaborn pirates b4 they get to my island, is the socom II good for this?
Angryvikingman on 07 Sep 2009 at 11:54 am #
For sea borne pirates you want a M2 .50 cal. Yeah, you can get one, only its semi auto. Unless you want a Barret .50 cal rifle. They also make a 25mm that they don’t really tell people about. They’re both 2 MOA guns, so that means that even though you can hit something at 2500 yards, it wont be where you pointed it. I could go into all of it, but I don’t wanna. Personally I’d want an HK 11 with a scope like I have on my AR. Its heavy, has a bull barrel, and is accurate out to 1500+ yards. The .308 round will deliver good knock down at that range too. OF course, you can always go with the .40 cal cheytac, but I just think they’re ugly as hell.
Swords:
It is a good idea to let your sword find you, as was mentioned before. I love the katana for its elegance and style, but absolutely nothing is as brutally effective against so many things as a good two handed long sword. The Cold Steel hand and a half sword is one of my personal favorites for functionality, and edge retention. If you want to get into sword fighting/training, then get one of their training swords. Generally budk has their stuff cheaper than the actual CS web site. Then go to thearma.com and find a study group near you. There are generally several study groups per state. I attended Arma classes for two years, and they’re a great way to learn your way around a sword. Even if you’re not into the longsword, then you can still learn so much that will translate into japanese swordsmanship as well.
Andy on 07 Sep 2009 at 4:17 pm #
I think the zombie apocalypse will look a lot like the television show “Jericho”….only with zombies. There will be less cooperation, not more, as resources become scarce and fear intensifies. As to Obama being Hitler, I won’t go that far, but I wil say that a lot of the “change” being introduced is scary, and if the zombies don’t get you, the government will.
McLuvin on 07 Sep 2009 at 8:18 pm #
Caleb, I made no mention of the longsword. The typical scottish claymore is considerably
larger and heavier than a katana. I personally prefer the katana to about any other
sword but I can appreciate the benefits of other styles. I am no sword expert I was just
answering priad’s question.
Ronin666 on 08 Sep 2009 at 7:48 am #
The only problem with a Claymore is having the space to use it and it’s a big thing to lug around. The japanese solved the problem by carrying 2 swords (well the samurai class could). Katana for outside, Wakasashi for inside. They had their own version of the Claymore, the ODachi. Mine is as tall as I am at 6ft. Believe me if zombies arrive tomorrow I won’t be lugging that around with me.I’ve had a few Claymores pass through my store, yea, nice but simply too big to be practical unless your standing in a field. Hand and 1/2′s are a good size. Angus Trim makes some nice ones, well priced and better made (hand made pretty much) than Cold Steel.He also does some nice sabers. The only real benefit of a (properly made) katana over a euro sword is the differential hardening.The spine is considerably softer than the edge so they don’t snap like a through hardened sword might if struck on something really hard.Other than that it comes down to what feels comfortable in your hand. Just remember if it’s stainless steel, it’s a sword like object, not a sword.
Caleb Hader on 08 Sep 2009 at 9:24 am #
To McLuvin: sorry about that, I thought you were talking about european swords in general, my bad. But still a flamberge will only weigh around oh, I’d say 6-7 1/2 pounds. But still It’s really what you feel more comfortable with, and for me, that’s a hand and a half. and that 7 1/2 pound flamberge or claymore does have a POB that’s a long way from where I like mine to be, so that would be a pain to deal with.
To Priad: If you like kukri’s You might be able to find some at kultofathena.com , they have a little bit of everything, just make sure to be a smart shopper, my first kukri’s bevel was placed so close to the edge that I couldn’t sharpen it, It was kinda a disapointment, but that’s what I get for buying anything for 25$ and from a no name brand and expecting something great.
Adam on 08 Sep 2009 at 3:35 pm #
Well, I have a claymore that’s about 5 foot long and weighs about 13 pounds, which is a bit heavy, but manageable. As for room to use it, I’d only use it outside or in a huge high-ceiling room. Like a hall, or a cinema.
If I didn’t have room to swing it, I’d use a different weapon like my knife.
Caleb Hader on 08 Sep 2009 at 6:25 pm #
Dang Adam that must be a big sucker of a sword. I prefer to use a pistol for usual places like a hotel if I’m clearing that out. It just seems like it would be such a pain to try and swing a sword in confined spaces.
Ronin666 on 08 Sep 2009 at 6:59 pm #
best place for kukri’s
http://www.thekhukurihouse.com/
Ronin666 on 08 Sep 2009 at 7:02 pm #
Somethings are just too big!
O Dachi compared to standard katana
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Dedman/unsheathed-compare.jpg
3ID on 09 Sep 2009 at 7:52 am #
Tomahawk
CQC by emerson that is all i have to say it in my recon video or i would use a spear long reach and can aslo be used to walk and check tall grass ie fields and probe under brush
jay on 09 Sep 2009 at 10:40 am #
i keep trying to convince my girlfriend to let me get ashotgun but shes having none of it YET lol
Angryvikingman on 09 Sep 2009 at 1:27 pm #
She’s you’re girlfriend, not your wife. She can’t stop you yet. ;)
jay on 10 Sep 2009 at 6:57 am #
lol your right there angryvikingman
jaggp on 20 Sep 2009 at 4:08 pm #
Most of you act cool
The bare truth is you will shit on your pants so hard , run and most likely die in panic.
Period
nostrashawnus on 21 Sep 2009 at 3:09 pm #
I think many of you think you need the biggest, flashiest, most expensive rifle out there to kill zombies. Save your money and buy 3 or 4 SKS rifles. They are sturdy, fairly accurate, and easy to get ammo for. So instead of one of you with your shiny new expensive rifle picking off zeds, you can have 2 or 3 others in your group helping you out. Sometimes the best isn’t what you need. Plus, these rifles will endure about any punishment you can put them through. Hole up, and let them come to you.
My 2¢
G-UMan on 22 Sep 2009 at 12:37 pm #
hey that gladius with the long horn handle you got a pic of it i wouldnt mind checkin it out see if it might be right for me so far all i have are two med sized hunting knifes effective at close to med range depending if my throwing skill are on par if not im SOL on that but other than that i would mind a short sword or something a claymore is very badass jst to bad its impractical in close quarters thats when a good ol triple buck shot 12 gauge comes in handy lmao
jay on 26 Sep 2009 at 6:57 am #
about time to ive got my application for a shotgun certificate they ask daft questions
like what is your height…etc but all fair and well lol…..
mitch e on 28 Sep 2009 at 1:34 pm #
cannibalism or just maybe you could pack 800g of assorted seeds ow and i have a portable solar panel that puts out a cigarette lighter wich i have tested with ma full 60G ipod so that will suck
mitch e on 28 Sep 2009 at 1:38 pm #
for a rifle ima thryng to fing something compatale with my military idk i live in aus so its not well known as almost Nobody owns a firearm or i could always take out a military zombie and reclaim a base
jediwannabe1 on 04 Oct 2009 at 12:39 pm #
I’m not sure how i’ll react to z-day… i mean, yeah there’s the possibility of me shitting my pants, running, and dying. but the thing is, im actually looking forward to z-day, however strange that may seem, so there’s also the possibility that i’ll just smile as me and my fam start preparing for the worst. i look forward to it because dying by my own hand (i aint lettin zeds kill me if i can help it) in the face of a zombie horde is a hell of a lot better than dying an old man that can barely breathe on his own in a morbid-as-hell hospital. Even if it means i have to die about 73 years too soon.
Stone on 22 Oct 2009 at 5:55 pm #
I would LOVE life in a zombie infested world. My only worry would be if something like zombies happened that turned out to be completely curable, cuz id end up in jail.
I’m a loner, and I have few friends. I’d be fine on my own, in fact, I’d prefer it. I can’t betray myself. Besides, my best friend is a shade away from being psychotic. He’d turn on me in a moment in z-land.
I think the whole reason we’re fascinated by zombies, is if a zombie is coming at you, you can kill it without feeling any guilt at all. It’s the perfect way to be able to exert your violent feelings and urges towards your fellow man without actually having to deal with your fellow man.
As humans, we’re violent creatures.