Pushing the Button…. Or Not?
While some may question the morals of those who will survive the fall of man at the stained teeth of the undead, just how far does this thirst for blood go?
Suppose, if you will, that you have in your possession the very virus that turns the living into the flesh craving undead. Injected into a person and within a day you have the very abomination that we read and watch movies about, eager to spread the infection. With little more than a whim you can unleash the very apocalypse, the end times on the world that we know. You have it in your power to destroy this plague by simply incinerating the virus in its container, burning it in cleansing fire and stopping the infection before it ever begins. However, will you do that, save the world from this terror, or will you unleash this virus and let it cleanse the world of the plague of mankind?
This is less a full article and more of a poll of those who will read it, so please let us know you thoughts.
Comments (71)
Priad on 08 Sep 2009 at 5:53 pm #
sweet first post…………..id hold on a little longer and then unleash it into washington D.C. It would be the apocalypse and I would be the one to wipe the slate clean. The question is will this haunt me forever……..even stopping my access to heaven. In that case i’d give it to someone else (angryvikingman) and let them do it so i hold no blame
Coppertop on 08 Sep 2009 at 6:38 pm #
I’d release it in China or some place in the crowded Far East. Watch what happens, which scenarios play out. Do the world governments deny it, cover it up, come clean? Does it start a larger conflict? Just watching from afar. Then I’ll have a statistics test come up and let it go into the western hemisphere…because I hate statistics. I really want to see if Darwin was right. As the herds of humanity are thinned, who will be left. The strong? The smart? The lucky? Tons of questions about the extent of our humanity that can be so easily answered.
Ronin666 on 08 Sep 2009 at 7:06 pm #
Do I want to destroy the world as we know it? No, I don’t want to be carrying that sack load of bad kharma around for eternity.
Nickoli99 on 08 Sep 2009 at 7:20 pm #
Thats kinda tough you would be holding the reset button to humanity. You could inject someone and destroy corrupt people an government an the survivors could start over. Or you could inject it an that one person infected could be put down before it gets a chance to spread. I would try to start it but the chances of it spreading enough to become the “apocalypse” or even a pandemic are slim.
sean on 08 Sep 2009 at 7:27 pm #
depending on the type of transmission of the virus,eg if it was through direct fluid contact as in the movies i would infect others,then get them to donate blood in an effort to quickly propogate the virus.
my view is that it is a biological imperitive,population control would be my ultimate goal with the new world one of oppourtunities that rarely exist in our modern age,so yes if it was my choice,it would’nt even be a question….
styer on 08 Sep 2009 at 8:07 pm #
i would unleash the virus…. i would do this because the world is full of people who in my opinion do not deserve the rich life they were granted to survive and i believe that the people who like me have to fight for survival every day will have good chances of survival as it is…
Evan_The_Ninja on 08 Sep 2009 at 8:45 pm #
If i ever possessed such a wonderful tool of destruction i’d release and spread it throughout the population, no questions asked. This world’s sad enough and could use a good epidemic to cleanse it, enough said.
3ID on 08 Sep 2009 at 8:51 pm #
Yes! in a heart beat!! I would push the button and cause the world to spiral out of control, but I would unleash it in a place like africa. if I’m going to play god might as well start there it would give me time to prepare
Chuck on 08 Sep 2009 at 9:26 pm #
I would certainly destroy immediately. And seek out the creators and stop them from ever manufacturing more.
metadoxy on 08 Sep 2009 at 9:58 pm #
Ummmm…. yeah, I’d torch the sucker. I’m sorta surprised this is even a question.
Sean, what makes you so confident the zombie plague would act as population control?
Ryan Elliott on 08 Sep 2009 at 10:16 pm #
I would use it as leverage to take over the world and have something set up to where if I don’t put in a password on some secret computer at least once a month (also if anything happened to the computer this would still be in effect) it would be released to cause maximal harm in as many areas of the globe that I could spread it.
Angryvikingman on 08 Sep 2009 at 11:32 pm #
I love it that people think of me. LOL!
Personally, IF I was the one to do it, then I would spend a while putting together a compound, socking away supplies at warehouses in my compound, and training a large group of people to secure and maintain my compound before I did any of that. I would make two seperate batches. One that can’t reproduce and dies off after 24 hours, and one that had a year long built in kill switch. Then I’d hit a city with the 24 hour virus, and ransom the rest of the world until I got my compound built. Then I’d fucking do it anyway.
fatloserboi on 09 Sep 2009 at 2:21 am #
interesting.. you could really mess up your enemies w/ this virus… thats the upside but if you look at the downside the thing could spread so quickly that your enemies could mess you back up… its a very interesting senario…
3ID on 09 Sep 2009 at 7:40 am #
i am with angryvikingman but my viruse would not have a 24 hour kill swtich or a year it would be indefante well atleast till you put a 5.56 round through threre forehead but i would atlest have time to bulid a for and stock it with all the right goodies an ammo lots of ammo
Stephen on 09 Sep 2009 at 8:21 am #
This isn’t even a question for me, the only rational way to release the classic type III zombie apocalypse virus is to inject yourself. You’re ruining everything for yourself either way and at least that way you’ll have a peaceful enough if not pleasant or painful death from plague, which is not a barrel of laughs but at least beats being living in a hole in fear of your life, being chased and eaten alive and then turning into a zombie or surviving, somehow, and having to rebuild from nothing. You’ll never live in comfort again either.
The risk/reward ratio is a total non brainer for me. You’d be a lot better off shooting yourself in the foot literally. If you find yourself in the zombie apocalypse then by all means try to survive but actually starting it? It’s just not worth it.
jay on 09 Sep 2009 at 10:34 am #
sod it id push the button!!! or like priad said let angryvikingman do it ”’LOL”’
Adam on 09 Sep 2009 at 11:04 am #
I’d agree with angryvikingman here. Stock up on supplies and prepare before I do it, then I’d release it anywhere and everywhere I can. maybe get a room full of several zombies and stick one in every major city around the world, just to make sure it spreads.
I strongly believe that if humanity survives, it will be a much better society.
Andy on 09 Sep 2009 at 1:33 pm #
Wow…I’m guessing most of you were rooting for Darth Vader when Star Wars came out…kind of worries me about this “Brave New World” you’re dreaming of. No, if I came across the virus, I’d destroy it, and I believe it would be a moral imperative to kill whoever engineered it. Inflicting this sort of punishment on humanity is reserved for God, not man…and God was much more subtle. He used a flood.
ZDaySurvivor on 09 Sep 2009 at 1:49 pm #
I don’t want to change the question, but can I ask the next people to answer to answer as if the zombies are EXACTLY like the zombies Max Brooks describes? You cannot place a “kill switch”, but you can stock up. I just think the answers will more “reliable”.
And to answer the main question, I would disguise the outbreak or leak to people all over, to give humanity one last chance. Then, I would release it in three places: coastal North America (probably in the South), a Chinese city, and rural Germany. Three significantly different areas, and this would make it more…interesting.
Amy on 09 Sep 2009 at 2:18 pm #
Anyone who can -honestly- look at themselves in the mirror, look at everyone they have ever cared about, and say, “I am willing to submit this person to a slow, agonizing, horrific death,” is more of a monster than any zombie ever could be.
Yes, the world is overpopulated. Yes, humanity as a whole is a cesspool. But there are other ways to fix those problems than causing billions of people to die in agony, MANY of whom can’t possibly deserve it.
Does your wife or husband, boyfriend or girlfriend deserve to die? Does your family? Do your children deserve to be eaten alive, begging and crying for mercy that won’t come?
I’d destroy the disease, and hope that if someone ever really is given that choice, that they’d do the same.
3ID on 09 Sep 2009 at 3:31 pm #
oh no come on all i want is a little fun Amy you make us sound like monsters well i wont comant on that and Andy well i was acualty rooting for boba fett because the hole dark side was a little to SS and had to much of a stiff Goose in there step for me. but come right down to it i would love to burn this godfor shaken place that we call a world and let the poeple survie start over with a fresh slate and lessons learnd and at that it might be Gods will for some to unleash this deadly deasie upon the earth he always needs a good messanger
Priad on 09 Sep 2009 at 4:01 pm #
heck im fuckin goin with angryvikingman. Gotta make my way down there or to montanna or my island in the chesapeake then let him set it off. I dont want to live with that burden the restof my life and I want to start over so its a win win for me. So ill just set up my place in the bay a little more because my uncle is the best preserver in maryland….always wins the state fair with his canned goods. Anyone in the chesapeake area look for tilghman island wen the shit hits the fan and we’ll hook up and raid the naval academy. only 11 miles away by boat and since my safehouse is on the very tip of the island I can make a quick escape. seriously hit me up if ur in the D.C. area.
Priad on 09 Sep 2009 at 4:02 pm #
o and im not a monster………..or maybe I am…everyone has their own wolf growling at their door………I let mine in…..and now im stronger
Priad on 09 Sep 2009 at 4:14 pm #
o and people give me an opinion on this sick nasty .308 or .338 the SRS http://www.deserttacticalarms.com/
Ronin666 on 09 Sep 2009 at 10:42 pm #
I find it amusing that you people would wipe out the world and actually presume that you would survive.Releasing something you can’t control is signing your own death warrant. Sure you might survive while your young and fit, but what about when your 50 or 60? Still going to be up for some zed slaying? Still be able to find food and maintain your security? If the zeds don’t get you disease will, oh and you killed all the doctors, wow, should have thought that one out a little better.
Angryvikingman on 10 Sep 2009 at 1:12 am #
Never said I’d survive, just have a compound. I’d just survive longer. Death comes to each of us in it own way and time. I really don’t expect zombies to come, or that there will ever be a virus that could cause them. I just use this as a hypothetical mental exercise, in which I must prepare for the worst war/disaster the world has ever seen. Sooner or later, something IS going to happen. There has been on average a HUGE war at least every 50 or so years since 1776. The revolutionary war, the war of 1812(1812-1815), the civil war(1861–1865), the first world war(1914-1918), the second world war(1939-1945), the korean war(1950-1953)armistice signed. war technically not over, vietnam(1959-1975), first gulf war(1990-1991), second gulf war(2003-present). I’d say we’re pretty much due for another huge war. As much as the world is hating on america, and all the turmoil here in america, shit is gonna hit the fan soon. I’m imagining itll be a lot like the TV series “Jericho”, which is a great series that ended too soon, evidently the government didnt like a TV show revealing its plan. LOL! Since Obama has pretty much sold america to the chinese, and he keeps spending money we don’t have, devaluing the dollar(down 26% since 2001, and falling), and trying to push socialized medicine on us(canadians have to get in a lottery to get a family doctor, not to mention its bankrupted their economy) and thats only the double dealing butt fucking that we know we’re getting. I’m sure there are tons of things being hatched by the government, thats gonna screw us even worse, put us in more debt, and eventually china is gonna try and invade to “get their money back” by taking land and whatever else they feel like, and our drained economy, and beleagured people will be too horribly depleted to stop them. Either that or “Mr. Manchurian Candidate” will just sign the country over to them after hes elected for a second term. I’m sure his campaign ads will tell how he inherited a mess from bush and it’ll take more time to fix it. More “Stay the course” rhetoric will be spouted by the brainwashed idiots running our country into the ground. We’ll keep letting millions of illegals run wild in our country, birthing anchor babies so they can stay here and suck our welfare and tax system dry until America eventually turns into the third world. Then there will be constant wars between factions, and all kinds of crazy shit that is happening over in Africa right now. War lords, over population, genocide, famine, children killing children, viral epidemics. Sigh, if we blindly “stay the course” we’re going to run aground. Might not be a zombie apocalypse, but is it really any better? Forgive my rant, but I just had to say it. Wake up and take back your country.
Angryvikingman on 10 Sep 2009 at 1:33 am #
@Priad
At the very least, you’re going to pay $3800 for that rifle, according to the order form pdf they have. You can get a semi auto with accuracy that meets or exceeds that rifles, for $1800 less. Get an AR system chambered in .308, put a sniper stock, bipod, and a $70 center point mil-dot scope from walmart on it and you have a 500-1000 yard rifle for about half the price of that SRS. That scope has adjustable parallax, and you can learn to range, and fire with the scope sighted in at 200 yards, and use the mil-dots out past 500. Thats what the mil-dot recticle is for. Multiple ranges, multiple targets, maximum body count. Or you can get a 700 ADL and put the same scope on it, and have a bolt action sniper weapon for under $1k. Vasily Zaytsev used a Mosin-Nagant bolt action and a what looked to be a 4 power scope to rack up a ton of kills during the battle of Stalingrad. Don’t let anyone tell you that you need a super state of the art, expensive rifle to kill stuff, when a $100 rifle works just as well in the right hands. Get some books, a lot of ammo, and teach yourself how to shoot whatever equipment you have to the best of your ability. When you want something better, get it, but you’ll always have to train with your rifle to be any good with it.
Ryan Elliott on 10 Sep 2009 at 4:15 am #
Well like I stated in my post, I wouldn’t release it until someone detained me or killed me via vital sign sensors.
However on the note of condemning people, I would likely not hesitate. Living with yourself is easy so long as you know you did whatever it was you did without any second thoughts. The doubts are what get to you, but then again I’ve never had a concience so its unlikely I’d develop one.
3ID on 10 Sep 2009 at 8:05 am #
@Priad
hey if you want a great rifle get an springfield m1a it looks as if you got some cash so the steep price tag wont be to mutch about 1500 for a base modle the ammo is about 75 cents to a doller around for 308 so kind of ecspencive but comparied to .338 it is cheap the stuff i foun .338 was 4 dollers a round so stick with 308 or 223 if you want to hit targets at long ass range buy a 50bmg 5 dollers a round and easyer to find but your best bet is a M1A by springfield with a nice scope and some national match grade ammo
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 10 Sep 2009 at 10:27 am #
No, I did not root for Darth Vader. Actually I kind of pitied the poor bastard, you figure the man lost the woman he loved, his very humanity, and was commanded to kill his own children, not something I would wish on someone. But, you also have to look at it this way, as evil as you might think Darth Vader was good still can from him in the shape of his children, so how evil could he really be? You see here’s the problem with you calling us evil, good and evil are very objective terms. There is really no definition that encompasses all actions and what we use to define good and evil now can change very easily. There is also the context on who you commit these evil actions against. The Christian Fundamentalists would happily wipe out the entire Islamic religion, genocide not unlike what Hitler did, and never think they did wrong, the islamics would no doubt feel otherwise to this act. What I am trying to get across is that in time what is right and wrong change, and the only thing that really matter is survival. Example: cannibalism is wrong, you should never eat another person’s flesh, but if that is the only way to survive in a situation you are quickly forgiven. Killing another human being is wrong, that’s murder, but to do so on the battlefield you are a hero. And do not think that some of those religions that preach peace would not unleash this plague in a New York minute if they thought they could convert the masses and ‘make the world a better place.’ And if you want to look at the Bible, the zombie apocalypse could seem to be a very page out of Revelations depending on your interpretation, of course.
And as for surviving, it kind of depends of your definition of surviving. In a long enough timeline all of our life expectancies reach zero, but if you look at in the Egyptian context the man who unleashed this upon the world would never be forgotten so your name would forever live on, so would the memory of this man. That’s another problem with this society, we glorify the ones who commit the crimes, everyone know Hitler but I dare you to name ten names of those who died in the camps off the top of your head, can’t do it can you? But I bet some of you could give me Hitler’s entire command structure though. But, I digress. What some of us want, really desire, dream of, is a war in which we can test and see if we have the metal in our wills to fight and survive in a true war of the world. If we can live up the what our grand forbearers did to create the word we live and see if we are worthy to what they have left us. That is why we fight.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
Adam on 10 Sep 2009 at 11:08 am #
yeah, there is another way apart from slow agonising death, but it’s much more difficult to kill everyone quickly and painlessly.
And not so much. In 50-60 years the vast majority of the zombies will have rotten away. So… yeah.
And since I don’t think it’s a good idea to start a religious argument, I’m not gonna comment on the “only god has a right to kill humanity” thing.
Andy on 10 Sep 2009 at 12:16 pm #
Sheesh! Don’t get so defensive, fellas! All I did was state an honest opinion and try to make a joke, it’s not like I’m trying to convert anybody. As far as the whole moral relativism thing goes, yes I support dropping the atom bomb on Japan in WW2, but I do not support infecting the world with a virus just to see what would happen. I support a pre-emptive strike against terrorists, but I don’t support holding the human race up for ransom with the threat of a zombie apocalypse. Are those contradictory statements? I don’t think so. I’m no theologian, and I don’t go around quoting the bible at people, but I do think God frowns on unleashing the undead to satisfiy one’s own boredom or greed. I’ve got to tell you, Kain, that’s why I love this site…there’s always something to talk about…keep up the thought-provoking posts!
Dave on 10 Sep 2009 at 4:33 pm #
I would release the virus. In my opinion there are far too many people who believe that they and their view is not only right but that it should be impressed on others.
Therefore I shall… uh, wait….
/that thar’s irony folks. You’re like, Hitler Level 9000 if you would release it.
danny on 10 Sep 2009 at 6:42 pm #
i think id unlish it whipe the world clean devoid of human life start from scratch, then again i dont think id want an undead army terrorizing the world
Ryan Elliott on 10 Sep 2009 at 6:58 pm #
Hey Dave don’t you mean Mecha Hitler level 9001? lol
sean on 10 Sep 2009 at 7:42 pm #
well after reading each comment on this thread(so far)
i have concluded(well at least to a degree)that it is still a good force for our world that we a killing at an alarming rate,now look at all the thread posts here,if there was such a virus one would be faced with the prospect of killing all of us….every single person reading and writing here would die,despite any survival attempts,i’m not thinking of using it as a weapon or as a form of genocide,simply as a method to thin the heard,the future generation would be much better for it or alternatively our species would die out and would that really be so bad? personally i believe it would’nt.although it maybe extremist to a degree i believe that given our current state of affairs on this planet it would be a definitive imperitive,human beings are a cancer on this world and despite the moral implications i would be prepared to kill all of you as well as myself,in an effort to preserve what little is left,the reason i propose this is not out of greed or sheer anarchistic glee it is one of a preservatory standpoint if this were to happen my reason would be to preserve our planet and what is truly good of our nature(that being survival of the most genetically adept)and that said are you able to say the same?
would you make the future of our species one of terrifying horror?
my answer is a resounding yes..not only in an environmentalist’s standpoint,but also the belief that only after our global catacylism
can we truly rebuild the world as it should be.
so in short would i do it ?…yes
why?…to keep our planet safe from ourselves and our own selfish nature.
Ronin666 on 10 Sep 2009 at 8:46 pm #
AngryVikingMan, I applaude your patriotism ,I’ll also remind you that world wars were around long before 1776. The romans, the greeks, the mongols all declared war on the world,the British Empire was a world take over attempt as well.
But there is little point in wiping out thousand to stop a war,the people who start them and profit from them are only a handfull, they are the ones that we need to be rid of. The rest of the worlds population would much rather just go about their business. My father fought the Japanese in WW2,he never bore them a grudge as he said “They didn’t want to be there any more than we did.” So imagine if every soldier in the world just said “No, I’m going home to watch the football” Instant world peace.
Ban all religion and there’s another step to world peace. After all it’s the oldest form of mind control.
Caleb Hader on 10 Sep 2009 at 8:57 pm #
Tough question. Me being a very christian-minded person, I would say no, at least, to any circumstance that is likely to occur in my life. But then again, this board isn’t really about what is likely, so I guess I’ll elaborate on a situation I might use it. Personally, I’ve always been hoping since I watched star trek, that one day something would happen that could bring all humanity together so we can all live in peace, harmony, and hey, if I can order Boston cream pie any time of the day from a replicator, then so be it! I think that a virus like this could definitely do this if used in a proper situation. And going with the fact that major wars are breaking out every couple of decades, say there’s a war that’s like the world wars, Maybe then, I mean Dietrich didn’t like wanting to kill Hitler, but that was the only way he felt he could end the war, so I’d be using similar logic. The only problem with my plan, for posting’s sake, is that humanity has never “come together as one” before, so there would be a huge, and I mean HUGE, margin of error, but I figure Killing zombies could definitely be a starting point in giving everyone someone to hate, so that we can all have something in common, which could, not being likely, but could, be a starting place to world peace and all that other rhetoric that’s been said about it. haha, make it so.
Andy on 10 Sep 2009 at 9:23 pm #
(heavy sigh) That’s an interesting take on it, Sean, and quite possibly the most disturbing thing I’ve ever heard. If the virus is anything like the T-virus in the Resident Evil series, you will not only murder all humans but dogs, cats, and who knows what else, all because you feel guilty about being a consumer, a living, breathing person who makes use of the resources around you. If you are, as your post at one point suggests, a believer in Darwinism, the theory of evolution, and survival of the fittest, I would urge you to reconsider your position, since killing yourself and all of your species would be greatly counter-productive. Go to the Arctic Circle and sacrifice yourself to the polar bears. You’ll feel better, at least until you feel their teeth in your flesh. The virus must be destroyed.
Angryvikingman on 11 Sep 2009 at 3:00 am #
@Ronin666
Yeah, I’m a history buff, and I know of lots of huge wars that took place long before the ones I listed, but I didnt want to give too much of a history lesson. I just listed ones that most people know or remember happening. Also, I agree that banning religion would be a step in the right direction. Just set up holidays as a non religious time off from work, that way people still have some things to look forward to. Its not as though Christmas is even a religious observance anymore, but a commercial holiday. Like Halloween, commercial, and although it was based from early pagan religion, its not really anything but an excuse to eat a lot of sugar, get dressed up, and have too much to drink.
Adam on 11 Sep 2009 at 5:27 am #
Well, you’d have to specify the specific effects of the virus. If it was human only, I’d gladly release it and I make no apologies for that.
If it was going to affect every animal in the world, then of course I wouldn’t release it.
But humans aren’t a natural part of the worlds ecosystems. We change things to suit ourselves where other animals change themselves to suit their surroundings. Grass make driving a bit more difficult? Let’s just pave over it all with concrete. A forest between two major cities? Let’s flatten it and shove roads through it.
If humanity did survive, it would (hopefully) be a better, more unified, responsible humanity, and if it didn’t survive… well, the planet as a whole is better off without us anyway.
Mr_T on 11 Sep 2009 at 12:37 pm #
@Adam
I can’t really agree with thinking the world be a better place without humans in it. If we’re all dead, what does it matter if the world is a better place or not? How are humans not a natural part of ecosystems? It’s not like we came from a different planet and landed on earth and began destroying everything we saw. Contrary to popular belief we’re part of this world and the solution to making it a better place isn’t killing everyone in it. I don’t feel guilty for being alive, or for other people being alive, thats why I would simply destroy the virus. Also, how could humanity be a better more unified place without roads?
sean on 11 Sep 2009 at 3:58 pm #
not exactly,when I refer to the virus,it is in the max brooks sense where it only effects humans.
and basically what adam has just inferred.
Sean on 11 Sep 2009 at 10:29 pm #
I would put it in on display in a safe place.
Caleb Hader on 12 Sep 2009 at 9:34 am #
At angryvikingman: Ya I’m with ya on Christmas and Halloween, No matter how much I WANT to, I just can’t help thinking, hey christmas is coming, that means I’ma get something cool. Since it’s coming up, I might try to remember that. But I do feel like they’ve become commercial shadows of what they once were, it’s kinda sad for me, being a christian, at christmas and just seeing everyone go nuts over their gifts without remembering why it’s there.
But about that virus, man I wouldn’t do it. I love my friends and family too much, and just cause’ they aren’t preparing for an apocalypse, that just means I’m gonna get HUGE bragging rights if it happens haha.
“what you’re feet hurt from walking? Well maybe you shoulda’ bought some hiking boots when I told you.”
Angryvikingman on 12 Sep 2009 at 1:46 pm #
Yeah. the “I told you so.” come backs are already happening for me. LOL. Yeah, machetes come in real handy for yard work.
Ronin666 on 12 Sep 2009 at 8:32 pm #
@Angryvikingman you need an excuse to drink too much? :)
Andy on 12 Sep 2009 at 10:35 pm #
Come to think of it, there were a few other guys I read about who thought it was a good idea to “ban all religeon…” Hitler, Stalin, Mao…
The world isn’t it the shape it’s in because too many people exercise their right to pray to God in whatever form they understand him (or her, if you want to have that discussion), and to suggest such a thing as “thinning the heard” is ignoring the fact that the afore mentioned statists had the same great idea- “kill everyone who disagrees with me.” Are you really going to murder countless women, children, and other innocents simply because politicians lie, wars begin, factories polute, and people tailgate? Yes, take back your country, but by spreading truth, not by spreading disease and death. The virus must be destroyed!
Adam on 13 Sep 2009 at 4:29 am #
Well, I wouldn’t ban all religion, but I’d restrict it. As in, it would be illegal to try and force your own religious views on other people.
Did you just compare me to Hitler? That’s really not the same thing. I wouldn’t be killing people who disagree with me, I’d be killing anyone.
And yes, I’d say mass-murder would be worth it if you could end war, pollution, corruption and poverty. In the long run you’d be saving more lives than you took.
Spreading truth would do bugger all, to be honest. You’d have to change the very essence of human nature, and I’d imagine a major global disaster of almost apocalyptic scale would be the best, if not the only, way to do that. You think people will stop killing each other and politicians will stop lying just because you’re “spreading truth” or praying?
Adam on 13 Sep 2009 at 4:44 am #
Also, @Mr_T
Just because there’s no road doesn’t mean you can’t travel through it. Why should we destroy so much animal and plant life just so we can get from A to B a little bit quicker?
I did try to explain why humans aren’t a part of any natural ecosystem, but basically it’s because we don’t fit. We don’t use things sustainably. Where an animal would eat some fruits and leave the rest to let more plants grow, we take and take and take until there’s nothing left, then we go somewhere else and take and take and take, and the cycle goes on.
D’you know, the current rate of extinction has only been matched once, during the great permian extinction, at the end of which 96% of marine species and 70% of all terrestrial vertebrates had died? It says something when one species’ effect on the planet matches that of the biggest mass-extinction in the history of the planet.
Priad on 13 Sep 2009 at 3:24 pm #
well to be honest I don’t agree with any of you. God gives inspiration to those in need. I contradict myself by saying this but one human should not control the virus. We can all say “let it burn!!!!!!” but do we really mean it? Thinking about dead teeth sinking into warm flesh scares the shit outta me, or maybe the actions I would do scare the shit outta me. In anyway you say this deep down you would not want to force a virus onto say, a ten year old boy coming home from little league? or a new mother just starting to find out how precious new life is? we can not outweigh the good with the bad……. I’d destroy it now that I reallllllllly think about it. Most people are fucked up, but do you think this is how you really stand or are you just saying things like “ban religion” and “cleanse the earth” or wow “better in the long run”. Hell no. If i saw anyone with this virus and they planned to relase it………………theyd have a hard time finding all the body parts I would cut off………….
Andy on 13 Sep 2009 at 4:53 pm #
Yes, I’d say my comparison was accurate- Darth Vader, Hitler, Charles Manson- by any sense, if you would release the virus, you are a monster, plain and simple, the enemy of humanity. Releasing the virus cannot be justified, even for the sake of the planet, which was here lng before we were and will be until the sun goes nova, whether we try to “save” it or not. But what’s the point of discussing survival, building bunkers, or developing farms on a boat if the ultimate goal is the end of civilization? Unless you plan on being the last man standing…good luck with that…
Now, if my posts seem judgmental, that’s probably just because I have a wife and children that I don’t want to be eaten alive, and, even though my neighbor annoys me, I don’t want to see him being nibbled on by the undead and the turning and having to blow his head off with a Desert Eagle or chop his head off with a chainsaw. I guess I’m just weak that way. But please, don’t think I’m trying to cram my beliefs down your throat-it’s your right to hate yourself and all other men and women on Earth- I just don’t want to be eaten by zombies.
jay on 14 Sep 2009 at 9:17 am #
@ ANGRYVIKINGMAN i like your videos your a right ol gun nut lol
Adam on 14 Sep 2009 at 12:59 pm #
No, I don’t hate myself and everyone on the planet, and every time you exaggerate like that it just makes me more annoyed at you. Everything I’ve said is statistically true, and if you can’t accept that, go running back to mummy. Why are you even on here anyway?
Tell you what, if you don’t want to be eaten by zombies, phone me up when they attack, i’ll gladly kill you instead.
Andy on 14 Sep 2009 at 1:32 pm #
Your blood lust cannot be sated, can it? Well, nevermind, I didn’t realize that this was a private club meant just for people who want to agree with eachother all day long. Still, if my comments get under your skin so much, I do wonder what a mirror does to you…
jay on 14 Sep 2009 at 3:03 pm #
were all here to talk about tactics and how to survive not to argue about silly little things
if some one was to release a virus it might do some good in this god forsaken shit hole
of a world!!! and ill say GOOD ON THEM FOR DOING IT ever heard of social cleansing
get rid of the scum in this world.
and andy my guess is that your be the 1st to turn…!!!
bio_engineering_guy on 14 Sep 2009 at 3:04 pm #
I would not release the virus (if it is a virus….). The virus first of all would most likely also affect animals since most (~>99) bio-medical testing is performed on animals first before human trials. The pecking order of bio-medical testing is in-vitro studies, animal studies, then human testing. This is true for medicines, gene therapy, medical devices, etc. Also since most viruses can jump species via mutations it would be highly likely that even if it wasn’t tested on humans it would mutate to infect other animals. This would limit your food sources. Secondly depending on if the virus is an adenovirus or a retrovirus the plague will be passed to mother-daughter cells of the infected differently. Some types of viruses are worse than others… Another worry is transmission. Viruses can mutate and change how they are transmitted (air, water, fecal matter, blood, etc.). If the virus mutates to be airborne than you have condemned the entire world including yourself. Finally since viruses are neither living nor dead once the plague runs its course it will still be with us for a long time. Small-pox can technically be caught by digging up a frozen corpse buried in the tundra.
Morally it is wrong to release the virus no matter how you may or may not feel about humanity. No matter what religion you may or may not have killing the innocent is no laughing matter. You will be killing many of those that strive to make the world a better place in what may seem small and insignificant ways to you. Not every human deserves to die because of injustices done by a few.
Priad on 14 Sep 2009 at 5:37 pm #
if the virus is et off by one or a group of people, i will make it a personal mission to track all of them down, shoot them in the knee caps, and watch them bleed to death for killing women and children. This will go far past one of the worst tradgedies in my life 9/11. which so happens last friday was the anniversary of seeing a plane crash into one of the biggest symbols of freedom and killing 3054 innocent people……………….this would be much bigger and I would lose faith in humanity to be a compassionate being forever. we are all fucked up but saying you would wipe out the entire world for the mostpart to “cleanse it” is going way to far. Im not a tree hugging hippie I just believe in the life of a human being or any lifeform as something more than sacred
Adam on 15 Sep 2009 at 11:31 am #
Yeah, fuck you andy. Are you actually dumb enough that you have no clue what anyone’s saying, or are you just trying to annoy me?
Andy on 15 Sep 2009 at 12:18 pm #
Can’t just let it go, can you? There’s a new topic up, you know. Look, it’s simple. You’re clearly angry with me because I called you out on your hypocisy. You think everyone deserves to die a horrible death except you and people who agree with you. How is comparing you to Hitler an exageration? If you advoate murdering innocent people to save the planet, I’d say that sounds a lot like Charles Manson’s interview with Geraldo Rivera. So, I’m dumb, fuck me, I’ll be the first to die, you want to kill me, blah, blah, blah. You’re still a monster. So can we move on now?
Adam on 15 Sep 2009 at 3:30 pm #
What hypocrisy? xD
I never claimed they “deserved” to die, and I never said anything about everyone dying except me and people who agree with me.
Are you resorting to making shit up now?
Andy on 15 Sep 2009 at 4:24 pm #
You mean you’d release the virus on people you DON’T think deserve it? That’s fucking worse! What, do you eat puppies for dinner, too? You’re just sick…
jay on 15 Sep 2009 at 7:21 pm #
andy SHUT THE FUCK UP your like a moaning old bitch that cant get his/her own way
cos mummy told you off now your ranting on here like a fucking child like just give it
a bloody rest ffs……………
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 15 Sep 2009 at 8:01 pm #
Oh, for the love of all hell, please. Both of you give it up. You both have opinions, that is great, shows you have an IQ above room tempt. However, you seem for forget, like most people in this day and age, that an opinion is just that an opinion. Having a particular opinion does not make it law and thinking that your opinion is law only goes to show your own ignorance.
Now, I don’t want to tell either of you off for expressing your philosophy, but it is beginning to sound more like rhetoric and that is something that Hitler was famous for too.
Also, if you keep it up you may find your post proclaiming things that you would rather not have the world know.
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
mitch e on 28 Sep 2009 at 12:33 pm #
no matter what i would press any button that does not immediately kill me i know but wtf i still think that if this was not metaphoric i would think it was a joke and press the button any way im board as s**t so i would
prince of paine on 28 Sep 2009 at 11:40 pm #
hloy hell people have some good opinoins, but my own is the one that counts. and it is the following, i come from a poor family, have had to scrap by while thousands of people around the world wouldnt care at all wether i live or die, and i think that has made me stronger than some of the other people in the world. also i have and excellent intellect. i have come to the decision that while im great and all, i will wait till some other jackass releases hell on earth,just give a weeks warning, and let me tell my family and stuff. otherwise my own skills combined with other factors ensure my survial bar some horrible twist of fate. i dont give a rats ass what the fuck gona happen as long it doesnt affect me. i just would rather 2/3 the pop be gone then full on death of the 3/3 pop you know what im sayin, because while there are jackasses out there i think the zombies will weed out the weak the stupid and the unprepared. yeah…
prince of paine on 28 Sep 2009 at 11:41 pm #
oh and anrgyvikingman, you are awesome…
Gabriel on 29 Sep 2009 at 12:07 pm #
well… considering if you have the virus, would you be immune? if so, then woot! unleash the virus i would. if not, id still unleash it. Mankind needs a good cleansing.
TJ on 12 Oct 2009 at 10:00 pm #
ID first stock the hell up and fortify the shit out of a bunker to last for about 4-5 years. I’d gather up everyone I deam worthy of survivng and then let deal out humaitys last hand in the card game we call life
Stone on 22 Oct 2009 at 5:42 pm #
I’d release it from JFK international airport, and let whatever philosophers survive argue over why I did it.
ThatScoutKid on 04 Nov 2009 at 6:09 am #
wow quite the bomb you dropped there kain. didnt think it would go to religion and hitler comparisons. any way. i wouldnt. plain and simple.i love to much in this world. hunting with my dad going to my sisters house for a weekend camping with all the extended family. i just cant give that up. and if someone decide to do that kind of thing whoop de fucking doo. dont bring it to my town. because its all that i know. and ill fight to the death for it.