Common Tips on Avoiding Infection

Photo credit: Scott Beale / Laughing Squid
Every day you will be exposed to potential infection due to the very nature of the enemy you will be fighting. Infection can come from a scratch, bite, or exposure to bodily fluids of the infected enemy.
Gear to prevent infection:
- Bloodborne pathogen prevention: A simple bandana over you face and safety glasses arent going to protect you from “splatter” infections. When fighting in close quarters or simply slipping in a pool of blood, you run a high risk of infection. For protection of your facial mucous membranes, (Eyes, ears, and nose) you need something capable of forming an airtight seal. Gas masks, fireman’s mask, and things of that nature are best, but if you cant get your hands on those, a ventilator mask and goggles would be suitable. A motorcycle helmet would work as long as it has a full face shield. If your face were covered in gore, the vents in front could become saturated with infected and it fluids could drip inside the helmet or become an aerosol inhalant to to the air being forced through the vents. Sweat could become mixed with infected fluids, and run down into your eyes or mouth, what is why things with airtight seals are best. That is also why just a bandana and glasses are a terrible idea. Your mouth is almost in direct contact with the bandana, and the fluid can seep through coming into contact with your mouth, causing infection.
- Clothing: Anything that provides a suitable barrier to bites, scratches, and other ways infection could be transmitted. Military or tactical clothing is probably best due to the fact that it is by nature designed to resist failure from rugged use in battle conditions. A BDU top will resist snags and penetration from large briars, so it could keep you from being scratched, and possibly provide you with enough protection to keep your skin from being punctured by a zombie bite, although there probably will be a good deal of bruising. The same can be said for any other military/rugged use clothing. Thick denim, or even leather jackets or pants are also better protection than you think. In cold weather, layers can mean the difference between life and death. Not only from the elements, but from the zombie menace as well. Gloves should also be worn, as your hands will most often be the tools you use for your survival. A small nick, bite, or cut on an unprocected hand could cause you to become infected. Leather or military/tactical gloves will provide better protection than cotton garden gloves. It may also be a good idea to wear latex gloves under any other gloves. You may have to carry a wounded friend, move carcasses for burning, or other chores that would require your hands to be exposed to possible infection. Microscopic cracks in the skin on your hands are very common and are viable avenues of infection.
Exposure prevention procedures:
Everyone should be checked when returning from outside of your base. Check for bites or wounds that could possibly cause infection. Men and women BOTH should be stripped to their underwear for examination upon arrival, and their clothes and gear taken to be immediately sanitized. Everyone returning will bathe in an anti-viral/anti-bacterial rinse, and should be taken to a debreifing session.
Quarantine:
Anyone with bites or suspicious wounds will be quarantined in their own cell for as long as needed to determing if they are infected or not. (As we don’t know the time it will take for a person to turn from infection. Many factors could influence this: a person’s natural immunity, weight, metabolism, ect.) Quarantined individuals will be debriefed as soon as possible. Visitation with the quarantined will be allowed, but in a “Prison style” visitation area where the quarantined cannot have physical contact with the visitors.
Comments (62)








McLuvin on 26 Sep 2009 at 10:32 pm #
Glad to see somebody step up to help Kain with the Articles.
Angryvikingman on 26 Sep 2009 at 11:21 pm #
I’ve had admin privileges for a few months now, just havent really exercised them until now.
Ronin666 on 27 Sep 2009 at 1:58 am #
I think you have it pretty well covered there Angry. I’ll add one more item you may not have seen around, its a face mask made of neoprene rubber like wetsuit material, the thing holds an activated charcoal filter in front of your mouth and nose but not in contact, many cyclist and motorcyclist use them in the city to avoid breathing unfiltered smog and exhaust. Coupled with a good fitting pair of goggles I think you would have the protection with out the hindrance of a gas mask, most of which either reduce your peripheral vision or distort it. Your standard leather motorcycle jacket is tooth proof, I know from the experience of having a large dog grab onto my arm, and he had bigger sharper teeth than a zed.They are also made for a snug fit to keep out drafts so you won’t be getting caught up on stuff and generally have a good number of pockets.
A good pair of steel cap boots isn’t a bad idea either, good for kicking heads and any thing else in your way, it’s hard to run with a broken toe.
Caleb Hader on 27 Sep 2009 at 12:44 pm #
Good advice, I plan on wearing an inner t-shirt with my chainmail over that (I could use ideas for collar bone, upper shoulder, mantle padding by the way as it does start to feel uncomfortable after a few hours, so if anyone has any ideas, please tell me.), my chainmail was made by me, and I’m just finishing it up by sizing it to fit my torso and arms like a glove. I might wear a hoodie under or over the mail, not sure yet. Then I have a tough denim, military-esk jacket that I plan on wearing over that, so hopefully I have enough layers to prevent bites, and a good deal of pressure, from getting through. I’d plan on wearing two layers of pants, and I’m getting some boots in the future to tie that up. I figure I’ll finish this coif I’m making and wear that when I’m going into the fire, as bites would hopefully not get a hold of any part of my head.
jediwannabe1 on 27 Sep 2009 at 3:23 pm #
not everybody has military tactical gear laying on their bedroom floor for them to throw on once the zompocalypse arrives, and it probably won’t be too easy to get the stuff once the world goes into caos. so i have a few easy-to-find suggestions for the less fortunate. Carhartt jumpsuit would be GREAT protection against bites, cuts and scrapes. a zed simply could not bite thru that material, unless when they were living they were one of those creepy people who sharpens their teeth lol.
Swimming goggles would be a good decision, although not the best. they would limit your field of vision, and dont have a perfect air-tight seal, but they have much better protection than sunglasses.
for a mask, a simple dust mask could do the job. just carry extras, cause once u get any blood or other fluid on it, u shud change it immediately. but again, it doesnt have a perfect air-tight seal. you should probably wear a full-faced motorcycle helmet on top of the mask and goggles. or if u feel safe enough, just forget about the goggles and just use the helmet and mask.
for feet, any good boot will do. just make sure u can tie it TIGHT around the top so it can’t be pulled off easily.
for gloves, u should use a 3-layer combo. 1st layer should be latex gloves. 2nd layer should be tough leather gloves, and 3rd layer should be thick winter gloves. the latex would keep any saliva from seeping thru the winter and leather gloves and going onto your skin. the combination of winter and leather gloves would be good defense vs. biting. the winter gloves would cushion the bite enough so that the leather would be able to stop the teeth from penetrating the skin. you might get your finger bitten off just from the force of the teeth chomping down on it, but the teeth wouldnt be albe to get thru the gloves, so ur finger would just be hanging loose in your glove. at this point you would be able to pull your hand out of the glove and make a break for it.
Angryvikingman on 27 Sep 2009 at 6:59 pm #
Well, I dont have it on my bedroom floor either. I have it hanging on a hook in the livingroom. LOL. Right beside it are hockey gloves that I use for knife fighting practice.
Kain - ZAC Weapon Consultant on 28 Sep 2009 at 12:17 pm #
Angryvikingman, welcome to ZAC Inc. long time in coming, just be glad I didn’t know you were and admin, I would have been raging your ass for help none stop. That said, it’ll be nice to have some new people writing, gives me time to take a breather and work on some other stuff, so stay tune kiddies ol’ Kain has some new toys in his magic bags of tricks(see obscure cartoon reference)
But, since I’m here, this is my two cents, regardless of what you wear you have to consider the all important balance. Protection over mobility, too much of one or the other can get you kill just as easily and quickly as none at all. And actually I have military tactical gear laying on the floor and hanging up in my closet, plus some in my gun safe.
“Rome wasn’t built in a day, it was built at night.”
Robert Ludlum, The Tristan Betrayal
“They won’t get me they won’t get me thought they never cease to try
they won’t get me they won’t get me I would rather fight and die
they won’t get me they won’t get me well my friend will they get you?
when they get you when they get you tell me what are you gonna do?”
Dropkick Murphys – The Gauntlet
MissKitty on 28 Sep 2009 at 6:02 pm #
Love this site, so happy to have found it!
The steal toed boots is a great suggestion. Also Military gear can sometimes be found at Army surplus stores (also great for getting MRE’s and other supplies) you can always look for one in or around your area on the net,steel toes and heavy fabrics can easily be found at many large chains (Mark’s Work Wearhouse is a good one)
MY only caveat with the chain mail is the obvious weight factor..when you are on the move or fighting it will add to your fatigue, not a good thing when facing the tireless hordes of the undead. Also there is the problem of upkeep,does it rust? How could it be repaired?
Also the 3 layer glove suggestion..is good up until the 3rd layer. Winter gloves would be alright in winter but would be hot and unpractical for warmer months and also the bulk of wearing leather and winter gloves would limit mobility for combat or other situations.
http://www.opsgear.com/ has everything under the sun to buy if your really hardcore about wanting some of this stuff…its very extensive.
Gabriel on 29 Sep 2009 at 12:02 pm #
hmmmm. what would be the chances that a “infected” person could be immune to being zombified? because you wont know until they… dont turn. and the only way they will die is if a zombie rips them apart.
but WHAT would the chances be that a member of your group is immune??
Monopoly on 29 Sep 2009 at 7:04 pm #
They got me bro’s. what do I do? I’m surrounded
Angryvikingman on 29 Sep 2009 at 11:14 pm #
Chainmail. My sleeveless shirt of mail(i’m lazy and havent finished it yet) weighs 20 lbs. Made from 14 gauge steel and is combat ready. When worn, it doesnt really feel like anything more than a coat. You can use the same gauge aluminum wire, and cut the weight by at least a third. It would still be bite proof. Repairing mail is easy as pie. Just replace any broken or bent links with new ones. All you need is two pair of pliers, and links. Steel toed boots are a bad idea. You ever kick anything with them on? Hurts like hell. I wear them to work every day, trust me, I know. Get regular old jungle boots. You can always steal some butchers mail from your local grocery store after the apocalypse. The gloves are really light weight, we have them at work for when we have to sharpen blades on the machines.
Blarg… I had a bad day, so thats all I’m writing. LOOK OUT VODKA! HERE I COME!
GreenEyedBandit on 30 Sep 2009 at 8:04 am #
Face and eye protection all in one:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MIL1200-1.html
But who knows how old they are, could be from 30 years ago. The price is the only thing that makes me actually want one.
Angryvikingman on 30 Sep 2009 at 9:34 am #
Good luck trying to shoot a gun with that thing on. Talk about not being able to use optics. Sheesh. The newer ones are better, sadly, they are anywhere from $150 and go up from there. An Army NBC hood would do pretty well also, and I’ve seen the whole suit at my local milsurp store for $15. Comes in a sealed bag and everything.
Angryvikingman on 30 Sep 2009 at 1:06 pm #
As much as I love cheaper than dirt, there are some other sites with the same or better stuff.
Here is a Czech gas mask that’ll let you use optics, or at least hinder you less.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/new-czech-m10m-gas-mask-with-filter.aspx?a=542413
Sharpshooter on 30 Sep 2009 at 1:59 pm #
hey i’m back!!!! ok honestly i would set up a color system. dorky right? NO! a green bandana/flag wave if it’s all clear and a red bandana/flag wave if theres enemies around or if someone has been bitten/scratched/infected. the bitten/stratched/infected person would be put under quarentine and observed for signs of infection. porbably put in a pit or something with blankets and food sent down regularly… not like a 40 foot hole but just reasonable leangth of maybe 10 feet or so.
MissKitty on 30 Sep 2009 at 2:06 pm #
Angryvikingman…. good to know about the chain mail…although 20 pounds still sounds a little heavy for me..(especially when your already carrying 10 pounds on your chest hahah) but the aluminum was something I was curious about so thanks for satisfying that!
I’ve worn steal toes before and I like them..maybe not for a lot of movement but more manual labor (perhaps when building a shelter or lifting heavy objects.) a broken foot or toes would suck.
I was also thinking about the butcher gloves but after I read that they aren’t puncture proof I kind of discarded that idea..although I suppose they could protect from cuts lessening chance of infection via wounds.
Vodka for a bad day? Won’t be bad for long!!!
jay on 30 Sep 2009 at 4:19 pm #
steel toe cap boot are heavy and uncomfy if worn all day wich i do so someother boots
would be better.. ANGRYVIKINGMAN hows your shotgun coming along?
Sharpshooter on 30 Sep 2009 at 6:01 pm #
jay: mine are hella comfy dude!!! all i did was spend like 15 bucks and bought some gel insoles for then and BAM they’re awesome! i can run just as fast in those as i can in running shoes and i can smash just about anything with ease. was snapping some 2×4’s with em and it was so much fun XD
Angryvikingman on 30 Sep 2009 at 11:02 pm #
Shotgun is coming fine. Got 3 things in the mail for it today. Regular charging handle(pump), black shotgun scabbard, and picatinny tac rail for the top. Havent gotten the warhammer tri rail yet due to not having the money, as I spent $300 like 2 weeks ago on the shotgun. Gonna get the AR-15 style buttstock/pistol grip this week, and try and get the tri rail next week.
Angryvikingman on 30 Sep 2009 at 11:03 pm #
BTW, WELCOME BACK SHARPSHOOTER!!
Shaprshooter on 01 Oct 2009 at 10:33 am #
thanks Viking! working on another zombie survival video. should have it posted up by the end of today. made a two pro/con lists for automatics and semi-automatics (burst fire is gunna be under “automatic” section simply for organizations sake.)
jediwannabe1 on 01 Oct 2009 at 3:33 pm #
misskitty, you are right about the 3-layer glove suggestion. winter gloves = bad…
the thing about my suggestions is that they are not for those who are prepared for the zompocalypse yet, they are for those (u know they are out there…) people who read this site but dont really believe in it’s cause. it’s those people that are going to have a hard time getting military tactical gear once the zompocalypse comes if they dont have it already. so by making my suggestions, im helping out those who are unfortunate enough to not believe in the inevitable undead infestation. hmmm… maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut and let those stupid people die? hahaha, we could use a few less of them XD
MissKitty on 01 Oct 2009 at 10:38 pm #
jediwannabe1..I see your point..and I agree :D. I have a feeling though that those people will be the first on the buffet table.
I did like the layering idea..the latex and the leather..and I was thinking possibly a butcher glove like angryvikingman mentioned. As I had said its not puncture proof but combined with the leather it may provide good resistance in a pinch..cuz like you said, lets face it unless we are lucky enough to have military gear..we have to do with what we have.
I live a few hours from a base and could go there but I don’t think I would, because I think there would be too many people and that many panicky people no matter how good the staff is…I would rather take my chances with a small well supplied group. (Including my child..cuz you kinda have to :P )
Andy on 02 Oct 2009 at 10:34 am #
Angry,
These are great suggestions- I would point out that everyone should train with their weapons while in full gear. I’m sure for most of us, that goes without saying, but there may be a lot of survivors who don’t consider how the goggles, gloves, and chain mail will affect their speed and accuracy in a “fight or flight” situation.
jay on 02 Oct 2009 at 10:54 am #
WB SHARPSHOOTER.. well i bloody wish mine was comfy but id prob have to invest in
another pairt hat are more comfy….ANGRYVIKINGMAN thats pretty cool mate…
jay on 02 Oct 2009 at 10:55 am #
tuts i ment THAT not HAT lol
Sharpshooter on 02 Oct 2009 at 11:01 am #
you may wish to look into getting a pair of combat boots… those fuckers will last years.
Angryvikingman on 02 Oct 2009 at 11:12 pm #
Yeah, I picked up a pair of $20 “imported” jungle boots, and i’ve put them through hell. They’re still holding up, and still kinda shiny. I do polish them from time to time, so I’m sure that helps.
jediwannabe1 on 03 Oct 2009 at 11:08 am #
i found some gloves online, and they are extremeley resistant to slashing and stabbing. http://www.columbussupply.com/products/?productid=2428&price=7488 i think it would be a good investment. too lazy to see if this site actually sells them, lol, but i’ve seen em for around $60.
MissKitty on 03 Oct 2009 at 1:50 pm #
5.11 Gladiator SL5 Slash Resistant Gloves
Not recommended for golf, batting, or stickhandling. OK for nuclear waste and/or firefighting.
LOL gotta love that…
Angryvikingman on 03 Oct 2009 at 4:00 pm #
Hey, update on my shotgun:
http://www.crackhedz.com/zombies/gear/500-mod.jpg
I love it sooooo much now!!!
Angryvikingman on 03 Oct 2009 at 4:02 pm #
I also modded the crap out of my GSG-5
http://www.crackhedz.com/zombies/gear/gsg-mod.jpg
Man it looks sick now. just gotta SBR it and put that retractable stock on it!!
Sharpshooter on 03 Oct 2009 at 9:41 pm #
holy shit dude!!! nice guns!!! i need to deffinatly get my hands on a shotgun… not so big on the automatic though. i just dont really like those kinda guns. although i will admit that the bigger clip will undoubtedly help.
McLuvin on 04 Oct 2009 at 1:20 am #
Nice GSG viking. You may want to take that foregrip off until the SBR paperwork goes through. I would hate to see you get in trouble right after you start writing articles for us.
jay on 04 Oct 2009 at 2:34 am #
SHARPSHOOTER i ordered a pair of combat boots online for £40 2 months later they
still aint here even though ive phoned and emailed the tosser loads of times
Angryvikingman on 04 Oct 2009 at 5:05 am #
As far as I’ve heard, SBR status applies only if you have a stock, and not for any kind of foregrip. My class 3 guy here in town didnt say anything when I showed it to him. If it did, then the GSG-5PK would need NFA paperwork, and I know for a fact that it doesn’t require it.
That being said, I already have a stock for it, but it stays in the box until I get the $200 saved up for the tax stamp.
Went to a friend’s house today and mowed down a 5 inch diameter tree with six shots of 00 buckshot. I was about 20 feet away. I also caused a 2 liter bottle to completely disintegrate at a ranged of 15 yards. I can only imagine what that buckshot would do to a half rotten zombie head.
McLuvin on 04 Oct 2009 at 9:22 am #
Viking, my understanding is that a foregrip on a handgun makes it an AOW. But if you SBR it you have no problems.
Just trying to be helpful. Once again I don’t want to see anybody get in trouble especially for a stupid rule like this.
I hate some of the ridiculous gun laws. Where I am in Ohio if we load more than thirty rounds into a magazine it is classified as full auto by the state. Go figure.
Sharpshooter on 04 Oct 2009 at 10:32 am #
well Jay thats probably because you got a phoney dealer. i got mine form a military surplus store here in town. pretty badass if i may say so myself :D
Angryvikingman on 04 Oct 2009 at 11:31 am #
Yeah, its always best to try and get your stuff from a reputable dealer, or go where you can lay hands on the actual product.
McLuvin, gonna call my class 3 and find out about the possible AOW.
I’d rather be safe than sorry, and you made me paranoid. Even so, Tennessee is pretty loose with their gun laws, so we’ll see.
jediwannabe1 on 04 Oct 2009 at 12:20 pm #
Angryviking, red dot on a shotgun? hmmm… necessary? i honestly don’t know, im not too gunsavvy, although i probably should be lol. once im of age to actually buy my own guns then yeah, i’m gonna get real into them. as for the red dot, well, i guess it depends on what kind of round your shooting? slugs? buckshot?
jediwannabe1 on 04 Oct 2009 at 12:23 pm #
oh, sorry. stupid question. i missed your comment saying what u were shooting XD. and yeah, if u can hit a 6inch dia. tree at 20 feet, i can see how a red dot would be useful lol. so nvm *slaps forehead*
Angryvikingman on 04 Oct 2009 at 4:41 pm #
McLovin:
I called the BATFE office in Washington D.C. to find an answer to our debate. Unfortunately the NFA offices are closed on Sunday, so I’m gonna call tomorrow. I’d hate to have to pay the $200 “Making Tax” just to put a freaking $9 foregrip on my damn gun. How insane is that?
BTW ZOMBIELAND RULES!!!
Went and saw that today. Generally the Zombie comedy doesnt really work, but here it did. The special effects were great, and the story was also very good. The ending kind of left things open for a sequel as well, although I doubt it would happen. I recommend that everyone who loves the zombie genre as much as I do, GO AND SEE IT.
McLuvin on 04 Oct 2009 at 11:46 pm #
Viking, you are right Zombieland was great I saw it yesterday.
I didn’t mean to make you paranoid, I just don’t want to see anybody get in trouble for something so unimportant. I am by no means an expert on law but I spend a fair amount of time around class 3 toys so I hear things. Let me know what they say.
Angryvikingman on 06 Oct 2009 at 6:09 am #
Called 3 times to the NFA BATFE branch. No answer. Third time I left a message, and my call has yet to be returned. Its amazing how well oiled our government machine is. (Sarcasm)
Zjechy on 07 Oct 2009 at 6:07 pm #
yeah chainmail…that’s definitely biteproof but think what happens if your skin tears underneath it. and think about the noise. the constant jangling of those chains on your body is bound to attract more zombies. A sharksuit would definitely be zombie proof. biteproof, protection from infectous splatters, but the noise and weight are a problem. good for fighting zombies underwater though.
Angryvikingman on 07 Oct 2009 at 11:06 pm #
It really doesnt jingle all that much, and a shirt underneath it will keep it from pinching you if you’re bitten, and a shirt over it will muffle the sound. I’ve been hit full force with a swords while wearing some before and only had a tshirt on. I didn’t suffer any real ill affects from it other than a sore spot where I was hit. Not even bruising.
Zjechy on 08 Oct 2009 at 6:04 am #
if you haven’t already, read the zombie survival guide by max brooks. it’s loaded with info on stuff like this.
Angryvikingman on 08 Oct 2009 at 11:44 am #
IF by that you are meaning chainmail, I have plenty of real life experience with it. I hand make the stuff for a hobby.
Zjechy on 08 Oct 2009 at 4:12 pm #
read the book anyways
Zjechy on 08 Oct 2009 at 4:32 pm #
here’s an excerpt from the zombie survival guide by max brooks about chainmail:
If worn from head to toe, this simpler form of armor actually does provide some protection from zombie bites. Teeth will be unable to penetrate its links, thereby saving you from infection. Its flexibility allows for greater movement and speed; its lack of faceplate allos for freater visibility. Its very nature (unlike solid plates) allows the skin to breathe and thereby cuts down on dehyration and overheating. Drawbacks, however, are still plentiful. Unless you have been training with this armor for years, your combat effectiveness is bound to be impaired. Its weight can still increase exhaustion. Its general discomfort can lead to unwanted distraction, something that must be avoided in battle. Although chain mail may keep you safe from infection, the pressure of a zombie bite may still be enough to crack bones, tear muscles, or rip flesh within the armor. As with plate mail, the clanking of so many chain links will signal to any nearby zombies that prey has arrived. Unless you want your presence announced, discount this idea entirely.
Angryvikingman on 08 Oct 2009 at 11:07 pm #
Oh, thats almost laughable. It feels like you’re wearing a sweater, and is of about the same comfort level. It doesnt clank and jingle. Like I said before, wearing a shirt under it will protect you from abrasions, and a shirt over it will muffle any jingling. And I dont know anyone who could get their mouth around even the most narrow part of my body if it was covered in mail, except my hands. Also, the weight isnt that noticable, and unless you’ve been training for years, just punching a punching bag for a minute solid will leave you drawinr ragged breaths of air. Personally, another 30lbs isnt gonna slow me down enough to notice. I spent the whole day working in my combat rig which weighs 20-25lbs, and the other people who werent nearly as encumbered as I was were having a hard time keeping up and took breaks when I didnt.
another mike on 12 Oct 2009 at 3:50 am #
Mail armor only makes a gentle shuffing sound as you move. Even properly fitted plate doesn’t clank. Oh and Caleb may want to think about resizing to get that denim under the mail. Medieval soldiers wore long-sleeve quilted gambeson as padding. And a surcoat over top to keep the sun off all that metal.
I just finished bracers, leggings, and boots in leather. I’m working on gauntlets now; leather palm, quilted and mail top. Then I’ll do my haubergeon, chausses, coif and mantle. I might extend the haubergeon to a hauberk. Then up-armor with plate sabatons and helmet. Shield, swords, axes, knives, tomahawks, lances, arrows, I’ve still got a lot of work ahead of me.
Angryvikingman on 13 Oct 2009 at 12:34 am #
I’m going to make some plate backed gauntlets whenever I can get some shop time at work. I dont have an open throat steel cutter, and tin snips just wont cut 16 gauge steel plate.
I was also thinking about making some spaulders, but I dont have a sinking stump, and I dont have anywhere to put one if I made one. Sigh… the trials of a modern day hobbyist blacksmith.
BTW, 50lb anvil at Northern Tool is only $60! When I get a garage its soooo mine.
Abbaroth on 14 Oct 2009 at 3:27 am #
While I heartily agree with many of Angryvikingman’s conclusions on many subjects, I must respectfully disagree on the subject of chainmail. Granted, it is wicked cool to have a set and even better that you made it yourself (MAD PROPS!!) I think chainmail can be discounted for one simple reason- weight. 30 lbs. by itself is easy. A full combat load including multiple ranged and melee weapons and ammunition, plus survival gear, plus water and emergency food at best will weigh in at 40-50 lbs. Add another 30 lbs to that and you’re seriously restricting your speed, agility, and maximum range. I know from experience that my limit in the woods and mountains in a day is between 22 and 25 miles with a 30 lb. load. Double that to 60 lbs. and my range is cut down to 12-14 miles and take another mile off for every 10 lbs. or so beyond that. Bottom line- Every ounce you don’t need should be left behind.
Many have posted excellent ideas for much lighter-weight solutions to eliminate the threat of bite wounds. I can definitely see the advantage of chain- or plate-backed gloves in the event of CQC, so long as they didn’t restrict your ability to operate your ranged weapons, but toting 30+ lbs of armor that is primarily designed to stop slashing attacks from swords is probably overkill.
In all honesty, I think a case _can_ be made for wearing armor, but rather than chainmail, I would suggest the ballistic variety. Remember that the zombies probably aren’t the only beasties you’ll be fighting. There will be plenty of assbags out there who would be perfectly happy putting a bullet through you in exhange for the food and ammo you have on you. Unless zombies suddenly get very good at wielding katanas, I think the chainmail will have very little return on the investment of the survival calories you will be required to burn to carry it.
As for myself, I will be making absolutely sure there isn’t a patch of skin on my body that isn’t protected by at least military grade ripstop nylon, and from my fingertips to my elbows will be protected by kevlar gloves with hard plates. I never go anywhere without my trusty combat boots, and for my face the neoprene and charcoal filter with high-visibility goggles. It seems to me that accidental transmission is at least as much of a danger as anything in a full-blown zompocalypse, so preventing contact with infected blood or fluids will be one of my primary concerns, especially when unloading my 00 buckshot at close range. Armor-wise, dragonskin or some ballistic plate armor may be added to the list eventually, but my combat/survival load is around 55 lbs right now, and I can’t say I want to increase it much more than that.
My opinion is that if I get into a situation that requires me to rely on armor to not become infected, I’m probably SOL anyway. At that point I’m surrounded, out of ammo and about to be torn apart. My plan is to be mobile and deadly enough from farther away to not be contemplating my mortality in the arms of the zeds.
Stone on 22 Oct 2009 at 4:41 pm #
I think it really matters on the situation. I mean, if we’re talking about post-apocolyptic zombie scenario, your surviving until you die type of affair, my goal wouldn’t be to avoid the zombies. It would be to have as much fun as I can before the inevitable.
Refrencing zombieland (awesome movie. i’ve seen it twice so far), you gotta enjoy the little things. I’m not going to sit there, hide, and wait for a rescue that’s not coming. I’m gonna enjoy myself.
So I have to disagree with you abbaroth. As I posted on the combat weapons page, armor would be my weapon. My plan would to bulk up on armour. My biggest problem would be other people.
As soon as the s**t hit the fan, I’d run to a Canadian Tire. almost everything I’d need would be right there.
Besides, I dont like to run around a whole lot, and I’m a big guy, so it wouldnt hurt me all that much to carry around 30 or 40 pounds of armour, so long as it protected me.
Hell, my old danier jacket weighed 25 pounds. carrying that kind of weight on your shoulders messes up your back, but it doesnt slow you down much.
Perkidanman on 23 Oct 2009 at 3:22 pm #
I’ve always thought that motorcycle gear would be the best in a situation where you needed maximum protection. If you can find one of those full-body suits, some gloves, decent boots and a helmet i’d say you’ve got a good chance of not suffering bites. The stuff is designed to protect you from asphalt as your body skids across it at highway speeds so I don’t see how a zombie bite would get through. Also, if you can find a motorcycle rain suit, you’ve got a makeshift biohazard suit (for your body at least).
3-15 INF on 27 Oct 2009 at 8:06 pm #
Has anyone thought of the chainmail idea, but maybe made with plastic rings instead of metal?
Would it be less effective against bites?
I mean, we don’t have to have something that works against swords or anything…
KillerB on 27 Oct 2009 at 10:02 pm #
Chainmail is a good idea if you have it. I would stay away from it for the simple reason of weight. For the weight of the suit I could simply carry more ammo. I am sure that a leather coat would keep me from getting bitten. Saliva might soak through though but it would soak through cahinmail as well. I like the gas mask idea but running and fighting in one sounds about as fun as having my privates steped on.
I think that I would stick to fire resistant cloathing as much as possible. Yes we all agree that burning the undead will have little effect but if your place is over ran it could serve as a good diversion. Getting burned sucks and having the ablity to run through small areas without coming out the other side looking like the burning man could be a major advantage. Yes this is a worst case senario but so is a zombie invasion.
As far as shoes go. I would stay away from the heavy military or work boots. A pound on the foot is 10 pounds on the back. I would choose a lightweight hiking boot or even one of the new breed of military combat footwear that is light as a regular shoe but offers a little more ankle support. Even standard running shoes would work. I have strong ankles so the support of a large boot is not needed.
What about tactical cloathing like the 5.11 line. Great durablity and many pockets. Tough as nails construction. Cammo might not be needed for the undead but there will be hostile survivors around. You may need to hide from them at some point.
Angryvikingman on 01 Nov 2009 at 2:08 am #
You’ll hardly ever catch me NOT in camo. I wear it everyday to work. The pants are the best work pants you’d ever want. After almost 5 years of constant wash and wear, my older ones got retired and turned into shorts. One pair was burned in a retirement bonfire at my friend’s house. They really needed burning…
You cant beat a good pair of Rothco BDUs. Who cares if they’re made in china by a 10 year old. (IDK if they are or not…)They’re better than anything that I’ve bought that was “American Made”. Propper brand doesnt fit right, the waist tabs slid every time I bent over, and they wore our really fast.
ThatScoutKid on 04 Nov 2009 at 5:58 pm #
i really need to put my shorter barrel on my mossberg. i have a longer birdhunting one on it rite now. and i want to get a heat shield. but thatll have to wait.
Hugh on 12 Nov 2009 at 6:23 pm #
I think we all seem to be forgetting something. Zombieism? is a blood-carried infection. What are we going to do about mosquitoes?
3-15 INF on 18 Nov 2009 at 2:02 pm #
well, we all agreed a long time ago that we are talking about max brooks zombies and mosquitoes avoid infected blood, as do most bacteria and parasites. Likewise, the virus will not infect any organism that eats it- it will only kill them, not turn them