Zombie Battle Clothes
After a call for some updated versions of articles, I give you this one.
Here are some things that Z.A.C. suggests you consider carrying and wearing if you’re on a mission to purely kick some zombie ass:
Base Layer:
Denim shirt/Jacket, denim pants or Army Battle Dress Uniforms (B.D.U.s Top and bottom): These provide tear resistance and are unlikely to allow a bite to penetrate the skin
Baseball cap: Protects your head from the sun and minor bumps and bruises.
Layer 2:
Knee and Elbow pads: In case you fall, they protect your joints. In all likelyhood, you will need them at some point.
Face Mask: Choose your own, just make sure it won’t allow contact of infected blood to your eyes, ears, nose, or mouth.
Gloves: A pair of latex gloves covered by a pair of Mechanix gloves. Not really a choice, more of a necessity.
Anti-bite Neck guard: A Shemagh, scarf, or even a chainmail gorget will work, choose your level of protection.
Layer 3:
Load Bearing Equipment: Y or H style harness, fanny bag for food and med kit, 2 canteens of water, 2 SAW gunner Mag pouches for your Military style rifles, a Large fighting knife, a LARGE machete, your rifle, and a pistol.
Weaponry:
Rifle: Military Style Rifle with a CQC Reflex or Holo Sight. Of course, you need backup iron sights. Accurate to 300 yards. Headshots at 100-150 yards. (if you practice) Minimum of 300 rounds in preloaded mags.
Pistol: Small caliber, .22lr-9mm. You want at least 10 rounds per mag, and a minimum of 50 rounds in preloaded mags.
Machete: Players choice, just make sure its long enough to keep you from getting in biting distance. Try to either incapacitate the zombie, or get a head shot. Don’t get fancy. Fancy gets you dead.
Fighting knife: Backup for your machete, if you get down to just this, consider falling on it if you don’t want turn. It can be used as an offhand weapon while weilding your machete.
Optional Weapons:
Shotgun: Always a valid zombie defense weapon, and able to possibly score multiple kills per shot, its better as a fortress gun or backup rather than a main weapon. Consider a mag fed Saiga for faster reload times.
Sword: Good if you know how to use it, but it requires some space and skill to use it.
Remember, these are suggestions, but they are made from a standpoint of experience with all of the mentioned items.
Comments (101)
specially equipped guardsman on 21 Mar 2012 at 11:51 am #
NEW THREAD! sweet.
That sounds like Z.O.P.P. level 4.
Zombie Oriented Protective Posture levels
Level 0: no threat. shorts, flip flops, hawaiian shirt. Leatherman, Mini-flashlight, iPhone. B.O.B. in car
Level 1: light threat. reports of runaways, missing pets, long pants, hard shoes, B.O.B. on hand, plus large flashlight or walking stick
Level 2: moderate threat. civil disturbances, reports of flu. Level 1+ hand gun, 2 mags, boots, long sleeve shirt worn, goggles, gloves, mask on hand.
Level 3: high threat. THE DEAD WALK! Level 2+ body armor, long arm, full basic load,
Level 4: extreme threat. Clearing infested areas. Level 3+, helmet goggles, gloves, mask worn. Bite proof clothing. long arm W/bayonet, side arm, melee weapon.
John Doe on 22 Mar 2012 at 8:07 pm #
What kind of ARs or AKs are everyone using?
Angryvikingman on 22 Mar 2012 at 8:11 pm #
Actually, I just built an AR-15 on an S&W M&P lower. Free float barrel, pretty badass.
You can check it out here: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=362677940421006&l=9b4bff9dac
Reaver on 23 Mar 2012 at 8:43 pm #
I’d just go with a motorcycle jacket, jeans and combat boots. for weaponry, my Springfield Loaded, KC 26II katana, and an AK in 7.62 for more distant work. Assuming weight wasn’t an issue and gas was plentiful, I’d also take my ruger .22 and .22 air rifle (very nice model, could be used for both competition and hunting) for more quiet work.
Reaver on 23 Mar 2012 at 8:43 pm #
as well as my survival bracelet if I ever got one. *cough* angryviking *cough*
survivor811 on 24 Mar 2012 at 8:38 am #
If you can get your hands on military surplus kevlar vests or flak jackets (which will slow you down alot more) that would provide some good protection.
Angryvikingman on 24 Mar 2012 at 12:35 pm #
Oooops! I’ll try and find it to mail it. I made it waaaaaay back.
John Doe on 25 Mar 2012 at 8:47 am #
@Angryvikingman
Is that a Colt Super-Stoc you got on there? This is just me, but I love me some Magpul. Their stocks and grips have little storage compartments which is really handy.
As for protection, I’d go with something. I’d get a nice, durable jacket and sew on some 1000-denier nylon at key points with fishing line. Since it seems logical that zombies would go for your limbs/shoulders, that’s where you should be protected. It’s easier to grab/bite an arm than your torso.
Angryvikingman on 25 Mar 2012 at 10:09 am #
Nah, just a regular milspec stock. Magpul is great, but its overpriced.
CompShooter on 25 Mar 2012 at 9:28 pm #
Yes they are on both accounts . My long range varmit build I want to use their adjustable stock (adjustable cheek and back plate), but its 245$ so I’m seeing if there is anything else similar and cheaper.
zabadoo on 27 Mar 2012 at 8:05 am #
If scrambling of brain is the only way to kill a zed and they aren’t smart enough to protect themselves with their arms. I would think that a board with a nail sticking out 2.5-3″ (an all steel equivalent would actually be needed because the wooden one would break far to easily or the nail would just push out) would be the best melee weapon. The last thing you want is getting your machete lodged in a zombie skull and trying to wrestle it free while the rest of the horde slowly lumbers toward you. The “nail in a board” would give you minimum skull removal resistance, It would be light to carry and would be easy enough to make.
Don’t get me wrong, the machete is IMHO the ultimate piece of survival equipment. But I think that slowly the survivors will find that the bladed weapons are best for human to human encounters where a missing limb is game over not for Zeds.
HangMan on 04 Apr 2012 at 3:56 pm #
Layer One:
Utility cargo’s that are water resistant with leather work boots
A light cotton long sleaved shirt with
Layer Two:
Knee, shin, and elbow guards I use when I do summer construction work.
Soft backed wrist guards that are bite proof but still allow flexibility and maneuvering with my Snap-On impact gloves over them.
My leather motorcycle jacket. A very pricey yet worth while investment. I took a nasty spill last year and it saved my ass, still in excelent condition.
Layer Three:
My large MOLLIE rucksack complete with supplies for one week with all hygene products (all biodegradeable).
Packing a Ruger P95 with 15 round mag’s. One always read to rock and roll with 5 back-up’s.
My bolt-action 30.06 with bushnell scope. Holds 5 rounds. total of 4 clips for it (20 rounds total) and 50 rounds extra in water proof casing.
My trusty old buck knife along with a knife for smaller game such as gutting fish and skinning rabbit/hare
My first aid kit. Can, and have, treated lacerations, abrasions, apputations, and animal bites (including venomous snakes).
Side note: Currently “working” for AMR for my AD in Applied Sciences so I can work as a paramedic. 500 hours total required. Unfortunatly it’s unpaid work, yet invaluable training. If anyone is gathering a bug-out team and requires a medic, I’m your man.
-HangMan/Sharpshooter
P.S. e-mail is sk8wise12@hotmail.com if you wish to discuss plans or tactics.
Reaver on 06 Apr 2012 at 11:17 am #
Cool. do you still have my address?
survivor811 on 06 Apr 2012 at 11:15 pm #
My gear:
Sharkbite resistant wetsuit (forget exact name something like shark suit, it may have been mentioned already)
full torso armour: http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum9087.php
Gas mask
8.5″ blade knife
plain clothes to wear over wetsuit
Colt .45 pistol (police issued in my area and a very standard design so ammo isnt too hard to find).
backpack with roughly 70lbs of equipment including
-messkit
-rationed dried food (3 weeks) and emergency water (4 days)
-water purification tablets (5 packages of 12 tablets)
-first aid kit including everything from blood clotter to a sewing kit to band aids (plus the training to properly stitch someone up in a pinch).
-sunblock (Im heading south)
- and more depending on what i need (still havent finished a bug out bag for natural disasters/ zombie apocalypse).
UK Survivor on 08 Apr 2012 at 9:18 am #
Head- s10 Gas mask over 3-hole balaclava
Torso- Berghaus Ardennes with stab vest, underneath my cadets training t-shirt (aquired as a child do to my love of army surplus at the time)
Legs- Kevlar woven combat trousers (acquired from my Saturday job)
Feet- Adidas gsg9 boots
Additional – Storm Proof pants and thermal layers and a shemagh
Anyone have any improvements ?
John Doe on 08 Apr 2012 at 2:44 pm #
@survivor
Those shark suits are heavy as hell. I don’t count on being bitten in the torso, so I’d just wear the arms.
CompShooter on 12 Apr 2012 at 8:55 am #
Think id ditch the gas mask too difficult to breath in in hand to hand combat and the field of view is much less, let alone the supply of filters you would need. Ski googles or a paint ball mask, something that gives a wider field of view and less restrictive on breathing. Assuming there is no airborne concerns
survivor811 on 12 Apr 2012 at 1:52 pm #
just because you have a gas mask doesnt mean you’ll wear it all the time. also shark suits are heavy but id rather be heavy than eaten.
Reaver on 13 Apr 2012 at 12:14 am #
you’d overheat extremely quickly. suits made for working underwater retain body heat too well. IF you want to go the slow and heavily armored route, why not just get an attack dog training suit like the police and military wear?
CompShooter on 13 Apr 2012 at 8:35 pm #
A giant hampster ball
John Doe on 15 Apr 2012 at 7:11 pm #
If I were going for eye protection, I’m going with Oakley goggles, hands down. Those lenses are clear and tough as diamond.
It simply doesn’t make sense to protect your torso too much. Even the skinniest person is too thick to be bitten in the stomach. Neck, arms and legs need protecting.
wheelgunner on 15 Apr 2012 at 7:37 pm #
Anybody looked at snakeproof clothing? They come as sewn on additions to denim, or as seperate pieces, such as gaitors or chaps. Highly light weight, good protection. Could even wear them as sole leggings if you had to.
If it will stop a briar or a snake fang, should stop a fingernail or a bite. It’s on my low end of the scale list.
wheelgunner on 15 Apr 2012 at 7:38 pm #
And a paintball mask with a mouth covering of some sort workes good, in my opinion.
zabadoo on 16 Apr 2012 at 5:59 am #
@wheelgunner
Do you have a link to some decent snake bite clothing?
I like the light idea. Unless you are part of a zombie killing army then you are going to want to be fast and light.
I guess it would be the difference between guerrilla warfare and something like the swat team.
If I was just trying to survive I would dress light and nimble.
If I was going to be with a bunch of others clearing houses and streets then give me the armor.
I think the biggest issue we will have during a zombie apocalypse is other living humans. In that case, bullet proof clothing makes a lot of sense.
wheelgunner on 16 Apr 2012 at 10:25 am #
Hiding works better.
Um… http://www.cabelas.com
Bass Pro shop carries them
I would check out Sportsman’s Guide as well
It’s actually pretty common stuff.
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UK Survivor on 16 Apr 2012 at 4:08 pm #
I have taken all your comment into thought, the snake bite clothing will probably be extremely hard to acquire in the UK because most snake here are domestic pets but i don’t worry about the gas mask i am physically fit and run for 30mins with it to simulate a high altitude style situation, encase i ever find myself in a scenario like that.Also i have ordered a pair of ski goggles and a box of medical mask ,i appreciated all the constructive criticizism.
HangMan on 17 Apr 2012 at 10:14 pm #
Something interesting to look up. What about private contractors? How long will it be before corporations start having the rights to build their own private armies? What if, from there, they start experimenting with biological warfare? Maybe an article on the events that could plausibly lead up to our demise.
wheelgunner on 19 Apr 2012 at 10:32 am #
I’m game for one if ya’ll are. And no offense, but I’m joining those guys if that happens. They have the access, I’ve got the need for advanced killit-killit tech.
I’d send you guys stockpile if I had any.
HangMan on 19 Apr 2012 at 7:40 pm #
Honestly I have no idea what I would do if that happened. The idea is to look out for A-number-1. It all depends on how enticing they can be and if they can be reliable.
CompShooter on 19 Apr 2012 at 8:47 pm #
Private corporate army ? I shudder at the word of corporate. I work for a corporation. They are out of touch and ineffective and slow to react from all the bureaucracy, in short, those that know, are replaced by those that never knew
wheelgunner on 20 Apr 2012 at 1:21 am #
Sounds like just the people to screw up ‘n zed out the world.
Andrew Pekaar on 22 Apr 2012 at 10:36 pm #
my idea is pretty bad but here it goes. the fiberglass casts that go over your arm/leg/wrist when you break a bone, pre mould a bunch or them to particular parts of your body, cut them in half and either attach something simular to the straps on rollerskates or a quik release system like that so they can click on and click off. You could make a suit of armour and have it very light weight, rust proof, waterproof, very strong and it doesnt limit people or larger bodies to wear as it moulds to body sizes.
and you could make repairs to it with ease with epoxy resim (stuff to fix surfboards). Also, if your like me and live in australia, and its really hot you would probably want a good car to travel in for one big reason, most cars will have aircon and provide good shade from the sun. a car like a ute would be good, especially with a hard cover and i guess something with good tourqe because tourqe is what gives cars acceleration and pushing/pulling power…horsepower is pretty useless (i drive a FPV f6 ute, google one)
that just my idea.
HangMan on 25 Apr 2012 at 3:47 pm #
Much agreed, but it’s something to keep in mind. MY first thought when thinking of our coming apocalypse is shady government experimentation. Although, the more you think about it, it’s more likely going to be a PMC or a private corporate army of some sorts. They have less morals. Our (United States) government may be pretty f**ked up, but I doubt they’d initiate the end of the world; well with zombies anyways. Nuclear weapons isn’t really the discussion right now.
survivor811 on 26 Apr 2012 at 7:49 pm #
Some corporations already have private armies (granted they arent called that). Usually they hire people with military or law enforcement backround and are used as “security”. all that stuff you see on tv shows isnt that far from the truth. Anyways with the creation of the internet, social networking, and texting we are able to communicate with people quickly, nothing can be competely covered up and if a zombie apocalypse happens we would most likely get adaquate warning by media, social networking, and other communications. also this means it will either be easier to leave the area or slow the spread of the infection.
Castle83 on 27 Apr 2012 at 3:44 pm #
-5.11 tactical ripstop tdu pants with kneepads inserts
-5.11 tactical polo and belt
-Danner Acadia waterproof duty boots
-Wiley X “jake” light adjusting balisstic goggles with foam inserts to protect eyes
(all of the above is part of my work gear so I have all on hand)
-Damascus Kevlar fingerless gloves (or equivalent)
-Molle syle backpack (with rations, Medkits etc.)
-Assault vest with extra mag pouches
-AR15 Mid length, 16″ 1.8 twist, with forward grip, eotech 552 holo, side mounted surefire, back up flip up iron sights and magpul furniture.
-Sig P229 9mm with triton night sights in a Blackhawk Serpa leg holster or equivalent.
-Non serrated k-bar type knife and machete.
(I’m still trying to figure out arm and leg protection)
HangMan on 28 Apr 2012 at 6:43 am #
Castle, a recommendation. I’d forgo the machete and spring for a hatchet if you want a bladed weapon. I did. A hatchet is a good fall back and a bit more durable for more grunt work.
Castle83 on 28 Apr 2012 at 3:30 pm #
Good point hangman, a hatchet would be more durable. Besides I would want to go hand to hand only as a last resort. I never liked the idea of choping up infected bodies at close range even with adaquate protection.
As a side note, maybe we could do a thread on dream load outs. Obviously within reason if money was no object. I’m not talking RPGs or other outlandish things but more on what you could legally get with unlimited funds.
wheelgunner on 28 Apr 2012 at 10:15 pm #
Castle-they are all over the back logs. It would be nice to see the backlogs brought out and used more often. Most people don’t make it past the front page or two.
Also, if one is going to swing for a hatchet, I would like to suggest a tomahawk or even better a hand ax of some form, as they are built more around combat than chopping wood for a fire. If you haven’t read the backlogs, I will worn you, I am entirely biased towards old tech. Works better.
Castle83 on 29 Apr 2012 at 1:45 am #
@wheelgunner I’ve read most of the backlogs I think I just came a little late to the party. I’m aware of your preferences, and for the most part I agree, tried true simple designs are usually more reliable, which is what you would want in this sort of situation.
I can only attest to what I’m comfortable with. My current weapons include: AR15, 12 and 20gauge, 30-30 lever action Winchester, 7.62 Mosin, 7.62 BM59, 9mm glock/xd/sig .45 XD, .38 taurus, and one I’m sure you would appreciate my first gen colt bisley and a .357 single action army. Got to have a revolver or three :)
I am however very limited in experience with hand to hand techniques and basic survival. Which is why in my group I’m the guy with the firepower and everyone else is packing food and survival gear. Not that that gear isnt important, I just love my firepower.
HangMan on 29 Apr 2012 at 3:52 pm #
Yeah but a hatchet tends to be a bit bigger and more leaverage. It all really depends on your prefferance, I’ve been doing woodwork for the family (we own property in Washington state) since my early teens. I know the nuances of a hatchet much better. It all really depends on what you know. Picking up something you think you know, is NOT the same as picking up something you’ve been working with for years.
Castle83 on 29 Apr 2012 at 9:24 pm #
@wheelgunner I have read most of the backlogs I think I just came a little late to the party. I can only attest to what I’m comfortable with. My current weapons include: 12/20 gauge shotguns, 30-30 lever Winchester, AR 15, 9mm glock, xd, sig. .45 XD, 7.62 Mosin, 7.62 BM59, .38 Taurus, and my revolvers I’m sure you would appreciate my first gen Colt Bisley and .357 single action army. I’ve shot these weapons extensively, I am however limited in experience with hand to hand weapons. Any ideas you have would be appreciated. Though like I said hand to hand would be a last resort, not that I wouldn’t want to be prepared.
tmj66 on 30 Apr 2012 at 6:08 pm #
http://www.filson.com/
pricy ,but tough as nails and still can run in it
poooooooooool on 01 May 2012 at 5:35 am #
Just a little off topic. If you’re interested in zombies, kickstarter is promoting a brand new game called “zombiecide”, a walking dead style game… It’s beating every record on reaching money for a tabletop game!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/zombicide
I think is cool! :)
Fluca on 16 May 2012 at 9:51 pm #
Just dropped by to say this: Guys, if you aren’t already, you should be playing DayZ (A mod for ArmA 2). Look it up and thank me later.
Alex on 18 May 2012 at 12:41 pm #
pretty good, you can get full body steel chainmail – divers wear it to protect from shark bites and butchers wear chain mail gloves. HONEST!!!
However, i have to say, a machete is actually not that great. They are designed for cutting through plants and foliage and are a bit flimsy. You whack that into a zombie’s head and it is just going to get stuck in its skull and get you killed.
I think a plain hammer is more effective, one downward stroke will shatter a skull and you can also use it to smash open windows and bust doors, useful when looking for food.
One last thing
i live in England so getting an assault rifle is gonna be hard!!!
Alex on 18 May 2012 at 12:52 pm #
i know some of this stuff is heavy but it is lighter than medieval stuff and i’m a rugby player so yah………..
by the way 300 odd rounds of ammo is going to way a similar amount to a mail vest.
Angryvikingman on 18 May 2012 at 8:41 pm #
Sorry guys, been at the corrections academy for 6 weeks. Hard to write an article on your phone and post to the site. One coming SOON, I promise.
Angryvikingman on 18 May 2012 at 8:51 pm #
@Alex
Evidently you have little to zero practical experience with a machete. Its the weapon of choice for thousands of militia men in Africa for maiming and killing people. Even the cheap ones from walmart are good enough to take off a leg. Try swinging one at a 2-3 inch branch as hard as you can and watch it lop it right off. That’d be the equivalent of taking off a leg at the thigh. I suggest you check out some of the Cold Steel machetes as well.
http://www.coldsteel.com/machetes.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaTbOGcsXoE
Alex on 19 May 2012 at 8:39 am #
thanks for this Angryvikingman, i may reconsider
thought more about the shark armor and have a realized that of course it can not be heavy! people dive with it on so it being overly heavy would make it useless. It does cost a bomb.
A leather jacket and jeans would probably be very hard to bite through as long as zombies don’t have sharp teeth/claws. However, this would not stop the bite pressure and you could end up with your skin getting mashed up instead of punctured.
One last thing, anyone have an idea for something to protect your neck with?
cheers
CompShooter on 19 May 2012 at 5:08 pm #
For field expedient, I would use a strip of leather wraped around the neck a few times or make a turttleneck collar of sorts out of paracord that buckles or laces up
wheelgunner on 19 May 2012 at 11:35 pm #
@Castle83-An original Bisley? That’s cool. I prefer the cap and ball Colts myself, in cartridges I prefer the Smith and Wesson Model 3′s. How does it handle compared to a Colt SAA?
Nothing wrong with any of your choices. I stay generally within my comfort zones, which is for well balanced, extremely accurate and easy to carry long distance longarms. I shoot better and faster with a lever action than most others.
As you read, I am also a huge proponent of using a WEAPON in a fight, not multi-using a TOOL. There is a reason why armies beat “peasants”. And I am sorry, but if you are willing to spend money for a blade, a matchete is a tool. It is a good mimic of a sword, but there the list ends. It will not perform as a weapon, unless you get a version built for it. If you have read my posts, you will know my extensively mixed feelings toward Cold Steel. They are excelent for the money, they are built for taking damage, and I have never had any trouble with one breaking. But, and these are serious accusations, the metal is a bit too soft, quickly losing it’s edge in trade for not chipping as bad as some in this price range. I have consistantly had a proplem with the nut holding the sword together being both not quite tight enough, and incapable of being adjusted for being stuck for one reason or another. The blades are fairly well balances, but in order to ensure they won’t snap, the tend to flex, bend, vibrate, and or give at a crucial moment of attack or defense, and I have personally received injuried of one form or another because of it. Will a Tool suffise? Yeah, given the right situation. Is it to be prefered? Only you can deside that.
Just remember, that any time the Shit Hits The Fan, that whatever you have at your disposal will be the best and most important whatever you need, and all of the fantasy what if’s and “expert” opinions in the word won’t amount to a Tinker’s damn for you and yours. Happy hunting.
For the Nay Sayers, I have repeatly tried, owned, borrowed, and used “tactical” and “milspec” weapons, and with few exceptions found them lacking behind my hundred and forty year old Winchester designs. I will admit, however, that my preferences in sidearms tend to have been, historically speeking, military issue at one point or another. It humors me when people start babbling about another F!@$ing AR15 made exactly the same way as all the rest. And before anyone argues, please, if you still call it an AR15, or a “clone”, it’s still the same gun, with the option of a differently pitched whistle. I will never be impressed.
Alex on 21 May 2012 at 11:37 am #
Riot helmet
leather collar
leather jacket
Butchers mail gloves Knuckleduster?
My semi auto 8 round shotgun with buckshot/slugs
hammer
jeans
heavy boots/hobnails
Kurkri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kukri
Alex on 21 May 2012 at 11:38 am #
^^^^^^^ recommendation for a hand gun?^^^^^^^^^^
wheelgunner on 21 May 2012 at 3:18 pm #
Taurus revolvers are cheap and reliable, and usually come standard with a high visibility front sight and a fully adjustable rear one. Colt 1911′s are good. I prefer the 1911A1 configuration, but I am accustomed to unajustable sights. Glock and Sig are also well loved autoloaders.
CompShooter on 22 May 2012 at 8:16 pm #
@ Alex. What do you plan to use it for ? I don’t know your level of experience with handguns. Snub nose hammerless revovers are plain,simple and revolvers generally have more powerful calibers than semi autos but semi autos carry more ammo before having to reload and are faster to reload by average Joe . Jams can be a factor, tho I have put 1000′s of rounds through mine and had damn few various types of jams but it should be part of your practice on how to clear. I have had primers back out on a revolver causing it to jam or drag hard while cycling the trigger. Again, rare for me but plan and train for it . IMO in the waistband holsters conceal better against accidental exposure.
I have different guns for specific uses. I have a 586 S&W 8 3/8 ” bbl 4 power leupold that I use for steel silouette comp / deer hunting. I use my Colt 1991-A1 for ISPC and occasional conceal carry but currently carry a Glock 30 SF with tritium night sights. I got a couple others in 22 LR, semi & revolver.
Zombie Slayer on 22 May 2012 at 9:07 pm #
Now this is pretty cool! How about a Zombie Slayer jeep? The Jeep ZS1 Limited Edition built for the apocalypse! http://www.zombieslayer.net. What do you think about this thing?
wheelgunner on 23 May 2012 at 11:27 pm #
HAHA! My state doesn’t give two shits about concealed carry. All I have to worry about is which holser will let me get it out the fastest.
Why does everyone think of snubnoses when you say revolver?
Reaver on 25 May 2012 at 5:00 am #
so you’re new to handguns? this would probably be best, as it’s very beginner friendly and has light recoil, with cheap ammunition.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_781524_-1_757770_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
Alex on 25 May 2012 at 11:23 am #
^^^^^^yes^^^^^^^^^^^^^
CompShooter on 25 May 2012 at 1:40 pm #
Snubnose are more concealable in a pant or coat pocket and I see a lot more of them at least around here and gun shops for concealment than I do full size. I meant in no way mean its the only option, just what I know my relatives in law enforcement and other officers carry.
Angryvikingman on 25 May 2012 at 5:42 pm #
What would you guys like the next article to be? The first 5 people to agree on a topic, and I’ll write an article on it.
CompShooter on 25 May 2012 at 8:17 pm #
Enough on equipment, how about moral choices, e.g the changes one must accept in order to survive , be it a infected family member or yourself.
wheelgunner on 25 May 2012 at 10:25 pm #
Moral issues. Or a scenario…which is to say a moral issue. I like the sound of it.
@Compshooter-I was just joking. It’s a little bit of a pet peeve of mine. I’m a hog legger not a pants pocket type. They are hard to find.
McLuvin on 25 May 2012 at 11:35 pm #
Haha, new topic. That’s rich!
Angryvikingman on 26 May 2012 at 7:53 am #
@mcluvin
Like I said, I’ve been off at the Corrections Academy. I was a little busy for the last 2 months. I had to stay there and there was no internet other than my phone. Its in BFE and I had little to no reception.
CompShooter on 26 May 2012 at 9:50 am #
@Wheelgunner. No problem ,understood.
Christopher Turner on 29 May 2012 at 10:18 am #
with me ill use anything that i could find as a weapon, that includes a stick, part of a scooter, etc.
Raptor on 03 Jun 2012 at 7:22 pm #
Have most of you forgotten about gravity and weight? Some of you are talking about toting equipment that will last you weeks, enough ammo to kill 500 zombies, and enough armor to Damn near stop a tank shell, then talk about trucking for miles on end. Most of you will be dead within the first week, including the author of the article. Let’s say you do take all this equipment, last for a couple days, your exhausted from walking and sleep deprivation, and you come across a pack of zombies. Even if you do shoot at most of them if one gets a hold of you he’ll knock you over and pin you down with his weight and the weight of all the uneccessary gear you decided to pack along. Eventually you’ ll die, especially when his buddies come and pile on top. Even if your bite proof it isn’t like the zombies are going to get bored and move on when they realise they aren’t hurting you. You’ll die of starvation with a pack of zombies still dry humping your body.
Me, I’m packing one gallon of water, one pistol, 2 mags, a few energy bars, a med kit, flashlight, solar powered radio, and a fresh pair of underwear. As for more ammo food and water, ill just run around and pick up the guns and supplies off your guys dead bodies as needed. And as for armor… Ha…. Armors for sissies. Zombies are mostly slow, and if they run, I run faster and smarter.
Raptor on 03 Jun 2012 at 7:23 pm #
I forgot I would have a facemask and machete too. Danny Trejo those bastards
Angryvikingman on 03 Jun 2012 at 8:54 pm #
@Raptor
What I proposed for carry in the article is entirely within the realm of reality for most people to carry for some distance. It is LESS THAN HALF of a normal battle load for a military infantryman. Just about anyone who isn’t required to walk with a cane can carry 40-50 pounds of crap around with little or no problem. Yes, its a lot of ammo, BUT, its still not a lot in the grand scheme of things. My big ass can hump it for miles carrying a full large mountain ruck that weighs more than 50lbs. Did it in scouts, and I still do it when I go camping. Granted, I can’t run more than a mile in all that getup without getting completely drained, but I can always dump the pack and circle back to it later while still maintaining all my weapons and ammo. If you’re carrying a 22lr, you can easily carry 1,100 rounds and it weigh almost nothing.
Also, IF YOU’LL NOTICE, the first line of the article reads, “Here are some things that Z.A.C. suggests you consider carrying and wearing if you’re on a mission to purely kick some zombie ass:”
No one said that you’d be walking in and out of the area. Personally, I’d roll up in force, flatten the area, and move out. Then again, maybe you’re so impressed with yourself that you think you don’t have to actually read before making comments. Derka derka derka.
wheelgunner on 04 Jun 2012 at 7:01 am #
I do so dearly love people who remember fresh undies but forget fire making equiptment. Or knives. Or a pack even.
Does anybody else find humor in “armor being for sissies”, but he added a facemask?
Crusader on 05 Jun 2012 at 6:25 am #
Me and my Uncles are training and preparing for this were going to wear fully functional Crusader Armor it provides full protection and it is light enough for quick agile moves (for us) and were very skilled with the sword and shield as well.
wheelgunner on 05 Jun 2012 at 4:04 pm #
@Crusader-What style are you using? Arms and Armor I mean.
Alex on 08 Jun 2012 at 8:47 am #
Miami face eater. uh oh
Robbie on 19 Jun 2012 at 10:40 am #
Dude, you realize how much this costs and how much fucking weight this is? good luck carrying all that its not a fucking video game bro, thank you id like to be able to run if the need be and all i need is a good rooftop, some booze and my trusty .308, ill send there asses back to hell in no time
Angryvikingman on 19 Jun 2012 at 11:00 am #
@Robbie
So a pair of pants, a long sleeve shirt, gloves, elbow/knee pads, a scarf, hat, a couple MREs, 10 rifle mags, 5 pistol mags, a knife, machete, a pistol and a rifle are too much to carry?
What, are you 10 or something?
Jesus, that might be 30 pounds of crap. If you can’t carry 30 pounds then you deserve to be eaten.
P.S. Sitting on a hot ass roof and drinking booze would probably be the worst thing you could do short of just feeding yourself to the zombies. But in your case, that’d probably be the best thing for us as a species…
Koevoet on 19 Jun 2012 at 12:40 pm #
“Assault rifles are all well and good, but when you really need to tear a person to pieces, nothing fills the air with metal quite like a combat shotgun. And for those times when a regular combat shotgun isn’t generating enough flying body parts, connoisseurs turn to what must be the most outrageously devastating hand-held anti-personnel murder machine in existence: the Atchisson Assault Shotgun, or AA-12. Fully automatic and drum-fed, the AA-12 fires five 12-gauge shotgun shells per second, with extreme reliability and so little recoil that strong men can shoot it Arnie-style with one hand. And if that hail of hot buckshot isn’t enough to make both shooter and target need a change of underpants, consider this: it has been developed in conjunction with the FRAG-12 – a new type of shotgun cartridge in which each round is a small, flighted high explosive or fragmentation grenade accurate up to 175 metres.”
Nuff said.
Angryvikingman on 19 Jun 2012 at 4:17 pm #
@Koevoet
I’ve shot lots of full auto, and more different types of guns than most people I know. I’ve never, NEVER laid hands on an AA-12. None of the gun stores around here carry them, and its even more likely that relatively FEW stores around the country carry them. And as far as the frag round for those things go, YEAH RIGHT. Maybe, just maybe you’d stumble across one after Zday, but its supremely unlikely.
If you want a gun that has the same destructive capability, and is available most everywhere, look at the Saiga 12. Its also both Mag and Drum fed.
wheelgunner on 19 Jun 2012 at 6:57 pm #
And has more aftermarket options than your could put in three shopping carts.
Alex on 21 Jun 2012 at 12:19 pm #
http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/Machetes.html
SL on 18 Jul 2012 at 5:39 pm #
Ive seen several questions about neck protection and an idea is a MX neck brace… Just an idea
LuCiFeRsHaL0 on 04 Aug 2012 at 11:39 am #
Well between multiple friends who are still active military and some vet friends, I’ve been fortunate enough to get some high-end gear and other stuff. As for a decent ranged rifle I have 6 ww2 8mm mausers, a romanian psl rifle. Several different handguns in .40s&w-.45acp and I’m currently saving up for a glock 19. I have a relative in law enforcement who has stocked me up on LE Federal Premium .40 hollow points. I figured with a smaller caliber pistol like the Glock 19 I would get a few more shots per mag and cheaper to stock up on for ammo. I can get surplus ammo for my mausers and the psl for almost nothing. I’m trying to find a decent NBC suit for my wife, my daughter and myself. I want to get another Ar-15 as I sold my dpms a few years ago. I have 25 30 round clips that are just sitting with no use right now. If I decide to get another ar/m4 I’m getting a colt as a fully auto conversion kit I can get for almost nothing. I have some gunsmithing experience so I know my way around firearms pretty well. I also figured if the shit hits the fan it would be a good asset to have someone that knowledgable in a group to repair weapons as they are crucial to a survival situation.
Zombiekiller1318 on 07 Aug 2012 at 12:53 am #
It super hot where I live so my zombie fighting attire would be as follows:
Bottom layer: under armour heat gear shirt and drawers. It’s why more comfortable than cotton and allows moisture wicking. Woul also have on knee high 5.11 socks as they are comfortable to wear and stay in place.
Layer one: I have a full set of propper BDU’s pants and long sleeve shirt which I can even til the sleeves up if there’s no walkers around…but I woul leave the sleeves down…just in case one comes out of no where. I would also be wearing my 8″ high boots with my pants bloused to keep things from gettin up my legs.
Gloves: Oakley assault gloves with Kevlar knuckles.
I am definitely getting a shemaugh to wear around my neck. Not only for safety from sucker heads but also from the sun. Hat would be either a full brimmed boonie hat and a baseball style cap.
Eye protection: Oakley flak jackets with replaceable lenses, tinted for day time and clear for night time. I have a ballistic helmet with a face shield as well but I would only use this in extere circumstances such as area clearing if I’m geting up close and personal.
Now for the fun stuff:
Load bearing vest: I am in the process of building a best and yes it will be ballistic…with pouches for rifle/pistol mags, extra 12 gauge shells (00 buck shot and slugs), pouches for placing found small items in, and I would keep a straight blade life in this too.
I will also be wearing a police style duty belt with a drop leg holster which will carry my Glock. I will have a straight blade knife in my boot as well. This will also carry more spare pistol mags and some type of device to secure people if need be, flex or hand cuffs.
I would carry a back pack with some extra things too just in case I get stuck away from my main hideout and will be able to survive for a few days away from the main base.
I think knee and elbow pads are kinda of cumbersome and uncomfortable but I have some and would keep them on hand just in case. They are easy to carry in a bag as you can strap them all together as one.
That’s all I can think of for now. I’m still learning about all this survival stuff and working on getting my gear set.
Zombiekiller1318 on 07 Aug 2012 at 1:28 am #
Just saw some more comments…I lol’d. 30 lbs of gear is not hard to carry. I carry 25 lbs of gear everyday I work;-) and its not too heavy, I can still move relatively good and run…FAST. Some people are not made for physical labor and will just sit on rooftops with their .308, everyone has a specialty. But hey if you’re a good shot then you can sit on my roof top and cover my ass while I’m out scavenging and have to haul ass back to base with some flesh lovers in pursuit. I’ll even try to bring us some beers back.
Zombie Prep John on 07 Aug 2012 at 11:54 am #
I’m thinking about testing some Kevlar clothing against bite protection. I know that it won’t solve cruising issues from a zombie bite, but it may prevent the zed from piercing your skin
wheelgunner on 09 Aug 2012 at 1:34 am #
Would pvc pipe work? Cut into pieces or what have you.
Angryvikingman on 09 Aug 2012 at 11:19 am #
Probably. You could actually heat it until soft for molding like Kydex. In theory anyway.
zombiekiller1318 on 10 Aug 2012 at 10:22 pm #
I know its expensive but with the right connections you could pick up some police riot gear for protection. It’s very hot to wear though, believe me I know (especially out here in Arizona), and is not always easy to move it but the right combonation of pieces could protect some vitala parts. I have some things that I will in corporate to my set up..shin protectors, chest protector, etc.
Anonymous on 18 Aug 2012 at 6:55 pm #
In a zombie apocalypse wouldn’t it be smart to go somewhere, where the zombies aren’t? Maybe like water, air , or underground places?
wheelgunner on 20 Aug 2012 at 12:05 am #
What says that they wouldn’t be there too?
Marc on 04 Sep 2012 at 11:00 am #
I just found this site today and was looking through some of the articles. I have been looking around and trying to figure out what I would wear lately and so far I think that a good close fitting leather motorcycle Jacket and pants with Armor would be the best thing. and I have been debating one with removable armor so I could replace with steel plates to stop bullets from non infected which I think will be just as much or worse to deal with than the zombies. or just maybe a bullet proof vest under the jacket. there are also Kevlar riding gloves that go a few inches up the wrist and over the jacket cuff and I would want to wear those more than regular Mechanix gloves which dont really provide much wrist protection. For a helmet/mask I want something light but good enough to take some abuse so I found a nice Snowboarding helmet with facemask. http://www.ruroc.com/store/1/rg-1/core/black/ plus it looks pretty badass. and for boots I want something that feels like a pair of sneakers. I like the Adidas and there are a few others that are real nice.
Marc on 04 Sep 2012 at 11:15 am #
for a gun I think a Tactical .22lr is a real good choice. have a laser site and scope and you can plink them off from a good distance without making too much noise and attracting more, you have ahave a 30rnd mag and its a semi-auto, the ammo is cheap to stock up on, there is lots of it and you can carry a whole lot more on your person at one time. otherwise go with the same caliber as military and police. (after Obama and Hillary are done with our 2nd amandment rights the military are the only ones who will still have weapons and ammo)
I am leaning towards one of these for a “Machete” type weapon http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=963672&criteo=2&utm_source=Criteo&utm_medium=rmktg&utm_campaign=Banner%20Remarketing&utm_content=criteo2 I like the guard on the handle.
TEOATTC on 12 Sep 2012 at 11:58 pm #
(Marc) Motorcycle leathers are a good choice They have armor (plastic) in the sleeves and shoulder areas and knee and elbow pucks built in and the leather is tough. I know its just plastic armor but i dont think you could bite through it, its pretty tough stuff and its inside the leather. Gloves that also cover your wrists is a must. A good pair of comfortable boots you could run in to protect your ankles. Only downside is they can get pretty hot just wearing them let alone running and battling hordes of zombies, and they are a bit pricey. As far as neck and head protection, motorcycle helmets are a bit clumsy for running and dont give a real good field of view. Ill have to check on that snowboarding helmet and facemask you mentioned. The chainmail is a great idea for neck protection. Over all this you can still use your harness for molle gear, mag pouches, med kit and food. I have 2 six mag pouches for my AK 30rds. and 5 mag pouches for a 9mm 17rds. A 3L. camelback is great at keeping the weight centered and not sloshing around while your running. I have a gerber brush cutter for my machete…the thing is badass…its sharp and the blade is about 1/4 thick, its about the length of a large machete but the blade has a curve on the end and has MUCH better weight distribution. Ive cut through 5″ bamboo like butter. I also have a large bowie knife although I would hope im never having to use just that to defend myself from the undead.
P Cheng on 19 Sep 2012 at 7:48 pm #
Hey guys, been a while.
As far as protective gear goes, I think the things to consider is utility versus weight. Of course, utility is situational, if you want to protect yourself on a forage or a guerilla attack, you’d probably dress light, but if you were preparing for a large-scale attack, you might want heavier armor. Ballistic vests are graded in terms of how high calibre rounds it can resist, and they usually afford some protection against cqc. Practically speaking though, I don’t think I’d wear any type of ballistic armor on my torso unless I was expecting people armed with small arms. Since I generally value mobility and agility over heavy protection, I think I’d just wear somewhat normal clothes, a good thick jacket with a comfortable snug t-shirt underneath, jeans or some sort of thick-ish cargo pants or khakis, and a sturdy pair of combat boots. Basically I’d just wear what I’d wear to a paintball game, or if I’m going backpacking. The snugness for me is somewhat important, so I don’t get caught on things and move easier, so not completely tight, but just fitted well enough.
I’d definitely wear some kind of gloves, but my personal preference is that I feel awkward wearing full-fingered gloves. I prefer bike gloves for many things, I can feel trigger pressure fairly well if I’m using a gun, and it still protects my palms and in between my fingers, which is important in cqc. I’m looking into getting some sap gloves, gloves with weighted knuckles. A lot of cheap ones bust after a few punches, but a good pair would do a lot of damage, although I don’t like the idea of going bare-handed against a zed, I imagine that it would probably still be more useful than a knife, less so than a machete. Wrist guards would be ideal, especially if using a melee weapon. It doesn’t matter how strong a person is, the wrist is too weak for multiple blows, so reinforcing the wrist is key in a close combat. Ideally I’d want some sort of guard similar to Japanese tekou, extending to just below the elbow.
Face protection is probably ideal, especially if the disease is transmitted by blood. A ski mask or a paintball mask would probably be what I’d use, something with maximum visibility, and minimal protection.
A question: does anyone know where one might get a riot shield, or would we need to just scavenge these? I just think a riot shield would be useful sometimes.
P Cheng on 19 Sep 2012 at 7:49 pm #
Oh, and private corporate armies, isn’t that exactly what Blackwater and other “security consulting” firms basically are? There are mercenary companies everywhere, but they generally call themselves “consultants” and “security” companies, but many of them do pretty gruesome work sometimes.
TEOATTC on 19 Sep 2012 at 11:59 pm #
Check at local army surplus stores, I’ve seen some at mine for a little less than you would pay new. Army/Navy online has some for around $100.
Dragonbelle on 13 Oct 2012 at 2:57 pm #
Can anyone recommend a video or site to go to to learn how to use a gun? I have no clue…
TEOATTC on 22 Oct 2012 at 9:52 pm #
@ Dragonbelle…go to a local gun range and take a coarse. Their trained staff will provide you with knowledge on how to properly handle firearms and how to use them and can provide you with a firearm if you do not own one. Dont be afraid to ask questions…thats how you learn.
wheelgunner on 27 Oct 2012 at 2:03 am #
Almost all guns come with a how to operate and the basics on what not to do and hit things, new in the box.
And check youtube. Everything except the exact sword review you are searching for can be found somewhere on youtube with proper phrasing.
3-15 INF on 16 Jan 2013 at 12:46 pm #
I wouldn’t bother with special clothes. It’s all about cardio. Running shoes, pants that are semi loose, dress for the weather. Heavy pack and weapons would get you eaten. You will need a mask if you get in close. The one on the picture would do.