Morality in the Zombie Apocalypse
In the days following the Zombie Apocalypse, you’re going to have to make some harrowing life and death choices. Be it shooting a friend or family member who has turned, or one who has yet to turn. If faced with some of these decisions, how would you react?
In this article we’ll look at some of the moral decisions you’ll have to make to survive in a world that has literally turned in to “Kill or be killed.”
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Scenario 1
You’re in the basement of a house, hiding from a hoard of 10,000 zombies that are taking their sweet-ass time shambling by. They completely surround the house, but they’re moving away. You’re in the basement with 10 people you know, but you happened to find a baby that survived inside the house on your way down. The zombie hoard is about halfway past the house and the baby starts to cry from hunger and you have no food or anything to keep it quiet. You know the cries will draw the zombies into the house eventually. Your survival depends on keeping the child quiet. What do you do? Fight your way out, or try to quiet the child with your hand which would result in possible suffocation?
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Scenario 2
You and 2 members of your family have managed to survive for over a month on what little food you had in your house. You’re now completely out of food, low on water, and haven’t eaten for about a week. While out scavenging, you saw some kids and followed them back to their hideout where they had enough food to feed you and your family for a week. You have enough room in your pack for all of the food, and some of their water. Do you take it all and justify it by thinking “If they found all this, they’ll find more.” or do you go on and try to find food somewhere else?
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Scenario 3
After a recent scavenging trip, your kid sister was scratched by a zombie. You don’t know for sure if the virus is transmitted by scratches, she is starting to feel sick, is running a fever, and is acting erraticly. What would you do? Go ahead and shoot her before she turns? Try the few antibiotics you have found to try and fight off a possible infection, which is potentially wasteful if it turns out that she was in fact infected?
Answer all 3 Scenarios, and justify your answers.
Comments (81)
wheelgunner on 26 May 2012 at 12:55 pm #
Scenario 1-If I have exausted all other means of keeping the baby queit, I reckon I’d have a lot of zombie killing ahead of me. Unless I see that there is absolutely no way to save it and us, I would fight. I can justify it as a new generation, or an unwillingness to kill one baby for the good of the group. But, I prefer fighting to hiding anyway, and I’d rather get the jump on them before they have surely heard and brought the fight to me on their terms.
Scenario 2-Honestly, I would prefer to offer them a chance to join up with us or to barter. I have some marketable skills for such. I know that if it’s me or them, they are probably going to get the heavy end of whichever big stick I happen to be packing. I would like to take at least some of their things, but if I could I would leave something behind with them. Preferably. I would steal them blind if I thought I had to.
Scenario 3-Up to the rest of my group. I think that I would give her the antibiotics, hoping that it will save her, but if it doesn’t, at least I would know if the virus passed that way. It’s a lose lose situation, but I might as well gain the most from the loss.
LAWGIVER on 26 May 2012 at 2:03 pm #
1. I’m sorry, but in this case, it’s no longer a live and let live world. The baby chews on the backside of a pillow for its’ last meal. If the kids parents want to pipe up while the rest of us are trying to stay alive, they’re next in line. Survival of the fittest, elimination of the weak.
2. They are in the same boat we are, and we have strength in numbers, just like the horde of undead. I would ask them to join our herd and offer them protection in return. Choice number two doesn’t pan out for them very well. Besides, I don’t have to outrun the zombies, just them.
3. Ouch. I have a younger sister and I love her to death. She has a pretty good head on her shoulders, so I would try the antibiotics on her and see what that does. What’s the use of having them if you aren’t going to use them? Wait for the same scenario again? Sorry, she gets them. I let the medicine run its course, keeping her restrained for the safety of others. If she starts to turn, we did everything we could and the burden falls on me to see her out.
Norman on 26 May 2012 at 6:59 pm #
In the zombie apocalypse, the scarcest resource is human life. That’s the governing principle we have to follow with all three scenarios.
1. First of all, has no one here had a baby? There are loads of things you can do to quiet them without contraptions or killing. Let the baby suck on your finger or nipple. You don’t have to be lactating, so men, it works just as well for you. More effective than your hand and less risky of death. In the end, the basement of a house is a lousy place to hide out, so if it comes down to it fight and run.
2. Best answer is to join forces (smaller groups die faster), second best is to trade. Stealing them blind means killing them, which deprives you of a resource scarcer than food.
3. Use the antibiotics. If she still turns, you now know the virus can be transmitted via scratch *and* is resistant to antibiotics. If it works, she’s alive (see governing principle).
Reaver on 26 May 2012 at 10:00 pm #
if it’s a virus, why waste antibiotics? not what they’re meant for.
CompShooter on 26 May 2012 at 11:07 pm #
Good article
1 my daughter would would quiet right down with a pacifier, though I don’t think I would use a finger to risk infection from a tooth coming in. A shirt cuff works , I know because we lost a zillion pacifiers on trips and she would use my then wife’s shirt
2 I agree in joining forces. Though if they were just lucky to make it that far and have no skills the best I could to is get them and thier supplies to a better spot and trade , depending on the better location and the learning curve it could workout as a base . If not just go back in later and scavange what’s left
3 I would use the Meds for the same reasons stated. May just as well, Meds have a shelf life and chances are probably easier to replace at least within a year since Meds lose effectiveness after that . The lawless will likely go after the pain killers and other controlled drugs before antibiotics.
Hellhound on 27 May 2012 at 12:26 pm #
Scenario 1 I would try to get to the baby quiet as soon as possible and since we just found the baby i wouldn’t be that attached so i’d definitely cover it’s mouth with my hand. A fight avoided is a fight won.
Scenario 2 I would wait for them to sleep then rob them blind if it’s me and my group vs. those kids, they can go to hell. People are assholes kids included and seeing as they have the food they already have the upper hand in negotiations, they could just as easily leave us to starve. Also i wouldn’t need to justify it in any way accept that i have to protect my group no matter what.
Scenario 3 Since you said it’s a virus and it’s pretty common knowledge that antibiotics don’t work on viruses, i would tie her to a tree and wait and see if she turns. If she doesn’t then we treat her with the antibiotics, if she does then i put one in her head since she’s my responsibility.
Angryvikingman on 27 May 2012 at 6:36 pm #
Let me clarify, in the 3rd scenario I said she was possibly infected by the scratch. She could just have an infection from the scratch itself, and not from the zombie virus. Seems like some people aren’t picking up on that.
Semper Cogitant on 28 May 2012 at 2:56 am #
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/26/2818832/naked-man-shot-killed-on-macarthur.html
wheelgunner on 28 May 2012 at 8:05 am #
Scenario 3-I am not supposing anything. If it’s just a scratch, it’s probably worth it. If it’s whatever makes a zed a zed, alls the better. If it doesn’t work, and she becomes one, I’ll know better than to try twice. If she gets better and doesn’t turn, then I guess I may never know. Either way, my concience will be clear and my smokewagon will be waiting close to hand.
Just to clarify. I was distracted when I wrote mine and my english wasnt what it could have been. I understood what you were saying viking.
Reaver on 28 May 2012 at 12:48 pm #
just playing with words. Still slightly irritated over the lack of a survival bracelet on my wrist.
Timothy L. Miller on 28 May 2012 at 2:22 pm #
Survival of the fittest…
Scenario 1. Shut it up. Survival of the fittest.
Scenario 2. Take it. Survival of the fittest.
Scenario 3. Blow her brains all over the wall before she tries to infect me. Survival of the fittest.
GaurdianAngel on 28 May 2012 at 7:12 pm #
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/26/2818832/naked-man-shot-killed-on-macarthur.html just found this. you can see the two bodies at around the 2 minute mark. some are saying it was a drug fueled phycosis, but when have the likes of us ever trusted that nonsense. deds to /b/
GaurdianAngel on 28 May 2012 at 7:15 pm #
my fault for getting excited and not reading the comments. way to be on the ball semper
Alcatraz on 29 May 2012 at 10:43 am #
Scenario 1:
I’d kill the baby, caring for it in a world as harsh as this would be a liability, and it’d save the baby being viciously mutilated, which is inevitable in this kind of scenario.
Scenario 2:
I’d take the supplies from the kids, it’s survival of the fittest. If I’m able to take supplies from them, it’s natural selection, the strongest survive.
It’ll be their problem to find supplies.
Scenario 3:
I’d put a bullet between her eyes in an instant, antibiotics shouldn’t be wasted on the blind, misguided hope that your loved one’s going to make it. It’ll be one less mouth to feed, too.
khidd-ready on 30 May 2012 at 12:28 pm #
i dont want any of this to happen , im only 15 and i’d have 2 brothers, a mom, a grandma, and a girlfriend to protect
survivor811 on 30 May 2012 at 10:11 pm #
1- if there was no alternative I would quiet the baby. same with anyone who threatens the safety of the group. I would expect no less in return if I was the one causing the problem.
2- I would take the food. but leave enough of it for them to survive for a couple days.
3- try some medicine while they are safely tied down for a few days and guarded at all times. if they die then put a bullet in the brain (or rather a knife to keep quiet. if they are ok then watch them for another week. I would expect anyone else to do the same to me.
by the way keep an eye out on disease LQP-79 a virus that affects the human brain to make you hungry for human flesh (supposedly).
survivor811 on 30 May 2012 at 10:19 pm #
just to add on to #2 if you take all their food they might be looking to steal. at least if you leave them some you have a day or two to fortify, however I cant see this happening without bloodshed and if that happens I’d not risk my group and scavenge somewhere else. also a fight can attract a horde and it is too risky.
even though they are kids everyone knows to place sentries when you have something others want. steal the food but dont be stupid.
Haslantis on 30 May 2012 at 11:46 pm #
@survivor811 I have done my Researched this LQP-79 as far as I can conclude from this research is that it is not a real virus. If someone could give me a reliable source I might accept the fact that such a virus exist. I am not saying zombies can’t exist as my definition of a zombie differs from the common peoples definition. Speaking about the topic
#1 Silence the Baby and risk it death.
#2 Try and get the kids on my side if fails then execute them and take their stuff.
#3 I hate my sister and as I am writing this now she has Influenza lol, But I believe Humans are the most useful resource in a Post-Apocalyptic world so I would try to medicate if its not a Virus with her tied to a tree ready to scramble her brains if she dies. If I can conclude that she is sick with a virus I will use Anti-Viral drugs if any on hand other then that I would just Euthanise her.
survivor811 on 31 May 2012 at 10:39 am #
@haslantis
Im just passing in information I heard. Im not saying it is zombies or the disease is even a threat.
Salvatore on 31 May 2012 at 9:29 pm #
Scenario 1- I would try to silence with my hand even if that does mean it suffocates because I will do whatever it takes to survive myself.
Scenario 2- I would take all of their food because I am not worried how others will survive I will worry about my friends and family that need the food and won’t care what happens to them.
Scenario 3- I have an older sister who I love so much but if it comes down to her getting scratched and then showing effects of turning I would have to kill her and not think twice about it because I know she wouldn’t want to hurt or kill anyone else.
donthateme on 31 May 2012 at 10:21 pm #
Scenario 1 – Sorry baby, you gotta die. Wouldn’t risk it making any further sounds and I’d probably be doing it a favor. Derp, zombies
Scenario 2 –
Step 1) Take all the food and what water I can carry.
Step 2) Go back for the rest of the water and supplies.
Step 3) Have provisions for the zombie apocalypse.
Fin.
Scenario 3 – Use the antibiotics and meds while keeping her fully restrained and under guard. She turns and we know meds are useless and to not let the zombies touch you. She takes 2 in the head and gets tossed outside to rot. If there’s a fenced in backyard or something, maybe bury the body…quietly.
Raidersfan79 on 01 Jun 2012 at 5:53 am #
1 I would do my best to quiet the baby but if I had to I would snap its neck kids need alot of shit and slow you.down alot cant shoot need diapers n formula and are prone to all kinds of shit anyway 2 I have 4kids not babies anymore I would try and barterand have them join up kids can get in areas we cant think outside the box kids are smart but if I.have to its my group or them anyone can go but even if they dont join up we can form an alliance.for battle 3try the meds if they work great if not.me and my sister have a pact to put each other out of misery in certain situations and I.think this applies
Nick Anderson on 01 Jun 2012 at 2:50 pm #
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Not a zombie on 03 Jun 2012 at 6:08 pm #
Just as a response to those that think that meds have a short half-life, this is untrue. Most tablet medications retain 90% or more of their potency for 7 years after the expiration date, according to a study in the New England Journal of Medicine. Just FYI for survival in general. IV meds, photosensitive meds (nitro tabs) and inhalants last less time.
Not a zombie on 03 Jun 2012 at 6:09 pm #
Re: above, I meant shelf-life, not half-life. Sorry.
CompShooter on 03 Jun 2012 at 9:37 pm #
I was told by my doctor that Meds under ideal storage conditions typically loose some potency in the first year , some Meds ingredients change at diferent rates such as gel caps . So if doses are critical , its often ineffective if Meds are under dosed which for antibiotics is not good , we all have heard that people quitting their Meds early make the strains more resistant to them as they evolve , sort of the same thing .
Below is something I found that was interesting
Typically, the shelf life of a medicine is that period during which the potency of the medication drops a certain amount — often 10 percent. It can be less than this 10 percent figure when a drug is not effective unless a very precise amount of medicine is delivered in each dose. Conversely, if the dosage of the drug is less crucial, the potency of the drug can drop more than 10 percent and still be effective.
How long it takes for a drug to drop a certain percentage of its strength is influenced by the chemistry of the active and inactive ingredients. The condition in which a medicine is stored also influences its shelf life. Most are given a shelf life assuming that they will be stored in a 70-degree medicine cabinet in a closed container. Heat, humidity, air circulation and sunlight can dramatically shortentheshelf life of most medicines. In other words, don’t expect that open bottle of aspirin that has been rattling around in your car for two years to be much good.
Each manufacturer submits information supporting its request for a shelf life of “X” number of years to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The FDA makes its decision about allowable shelf life based upon this manufacturer input, but that doesn’t imply that the product suddenly becomes useless or turns into a deadly poison at the hour of expiration. Instead, it usually means that the manufacturer only collected data about the shelf life for that period of time. Most drug manufacturers desire a two-year shelf life because that gives adequate leeway for the “production-distribution-consumption” cycle to be completed.
Your prescription medicines, including your antibiotics, probably had about a two-year expiration date from the time of their production. Your pharmacist puts a one-year expiration date on your particular bottle of medicine because of the time that has lapsed since productionaswell as the uncontrolled variables in storage outside the pharmacy. The practice is followed to increase the likelihood that the medicines you take are of the proper potency and quality.
Not all products have expiration dates. The rubbing alcohol you mentioned is one of them. Medically relatedproducts that are stable for at least three years, as alcohol is, are exempt from the labeling rule. Homeopathic and herbal products are exempted as are some investigational drugs and allergy extracts that have no established potency standards.
Munchin'OnYourBrains on 03 Jun 2012 at 9:39 pm #
Scenario 1) Unless you have been watching the Romero franchise, which spawned all of this Zombie Apocalypse stuff you guys are talking about, the second someone dies (unless their brain has been damaged) they are zombified, so I wouldn’t stick a finger in the baby’s mouth because that would risk my immediate zombification when it suffocated. I’d wrap the cloth it is wearing around it’s head, go upstairs and toss the thing out the window. It’d just be a liability if it lived anyway, which it probably wouldn’t to begin with, and it would give us an opportunity to hunker down while the Zombies munch on that baby.
Scenario 2) Let’s be honest, it works to have a larger clan IF you are planning on waging an all-out war against the zombies. Leave that to the other clans out there. More people means more noise, less food, longer travel time and the need for more accomidation. I would sneak in there in the night with my group of four or five people, kill about half of them and tie the rest up, then I would steal their food and weapons, leaving about a day for each of the survivors. Simple as that.
Scenario 3) If MY sister was infected with a virus from a zombie scratch, I would tie her to a stake and medicate her with all of the antibiotics I can afford to spare. If she turns, i’ll bash her unconscious and lock her in the basement, then send someone to execute her. I’m not killing my own sister unless I have no other choice.
Ruby on 04 Jun 2012 at 4:13 am #
Scenario 1:
I would try for about a minute to keep the baby quiet, and if i failed I would just have to prepare to kill zombies. I wouldn’t physically be able to kill a helpless baby even if my own life was in danger. (Probably not a good trait in this situation but im just being honest)
Scenario 2:
I would take all of their food and supplies because I would leave it up to them to find more for themselves.
Scenario 3:
I would give all the medicine needed to her. You can’t just let everyone around you die or you may as well be dead yourself.
wheelgunner on 04 Jun 2012 at 6:50 am #
I’m kind of curious as to how you intend to kill half of them before you take the other half prisoner. Or, how you, all by your lonesome, dehydrated and satarving, would be able to do any of that to begin with.
wheelgunner on 04 Jun 2012 at 6:55 am #
And two more cents on the issue? No babies, no new generation. No new generation, zombies win anyway. Add in diversity of the gene pool, dealing with the women and religious people in your group, and a dozen other factors, I don’t see baby killing as option one. It doesn’t make sense.
Besides, your going to have to get practice in some time. If you are going to lose a baby to not having how to take care of it figured out, you will handle it a lot better if it isn’t yours you are experimenting on.
Zombie'sNightmare666 on 04 Jun 2012 at 1:05 pm #
Scenario 1: I would give the baby a bottle, but if it came down to it, sorry baby.
2: I would jack the food because they can probably find more if they found that much.
3: I don’t have a sister, but I have younger brothers. I love them dearly, but if it’s me or them, I need to survive.
Thewinner on 04 Jun 2012 at 3:03 pm #
Scenario1: I would keep the baby quiet with a shirt cloth. One baby=new generation. If the baby cannot quiet down, then I will tell my mates to get ready for fucking battle.
Scenario2:Make an alliance. Or try to in that situation. If they don’t want tO and they try to cheat me and my friends, will just fuck em up and take their shit.
Scenario 3: Meds dont wOrk on her, she will “take it to the head”
GET OVER IT on 04 Jun 2012 at 4:36 pm #
Ok. All I got to say is that this isnt the fuckin movies or some fuckin video game. This Is real life! Yall talk all this talk about kill the baby kill the kids
Kill my sister. Yea right. For the older grown ups u can reason with if u were to drive to a family members house that u care dearly about and wen u get there they look lyk they have scabs all over there face and is walkin towards u while ur still in the car and there making god aweful sounds that u would jus get out and kill that person. No. ur gonna stay in ur car freak out and drive away cryin espeacialy if its the person thats raised u since day one. Plus if ur gonna kill some inocent child cuz its crying u either dnt have children or ur heartless. Which if that is the case then u deserve to mauled by the zombies. I have a 4 month old and a whole lot of shot guns and gernades. cuz I will be going watever it takes to protect my child. So thats wat I got to say about that.
Hangman on 04 Jun 2012 at 6:58 pm #
I cannot even honestly begin to say what I would do. I don’t know what I would be capable of doing unless put in the situation, and since I’ve never been in a similar situation as these. I couldn’t give an honest answer.
Robb on 05 Jun 2012 at 12:45 am #
S1- Finger in the baby’s mouth. Most infants will suckle immediately. Otherwise, majority rules. If they all agree to it you silence the baby any way you can.
S2- Invite the kids to join you. We can’t all stay in little groups forever and hope to survive.
S3- You don’t give her the drugs but let things play out. If she dies you stab her in the eye socket so you don’t waste meds or bullets.
Walking_Bed on 05 Jun 2012 at 4:35 am #
scen1: for me, ill still would do all the best effort to comfort the baby (well there are other ways “safe ways” to do it anyway) as much as i or we can for the moment, regards to human life and morallity is still important even in darkest hours, especially on those kind of hours.
rather die a human, than live like an animal,
scen2: probably negotiate with them to join forces in return for strentgh in numbers, strength doesnt always means to fight. scavenging for food and have someone being on the look-out is also an asset. since they are kids. though they did survive, its safe to assume that they are just very lucky and also tell them that if we did found them, so will the others and the others may not be too kind to left them breathing.
scen3: due to the anonimity of the disease, unless it is known as a virus, it would be safe to assume that no common anti0biotic will have a good effect. but in other way, ill still tie her and wait for the worst. then apply my motto.”die a human, than live like an animal”.
anyone agree? thanks
Walking_Bed on 05 Jun 2012 at 4:43 am #
i suggest evr1 to dload frm torrent this book, it may one day help.
zombie.survival.guide.pdf
zombie.survival.guide
“the complete protection from the living dead”
Angryvikingman on 05 Jun 2012 at 3:48 pm #
@Walking_bed
I own the Zombie Survival guide. Its Crap.
I’m working on my own version of a Z.S.G., and it will be a LOT better than the one by Max Brooks.
wheelgunner on 05 Jun 2012 at 4:03 pm #
@vikiing-Dude. Really? That’s cool. “The Angryviking Guide to the Undead Apocalypse”? I’d buy it.
Haslantis on 06 Jun 2012 at 2:10 am #
I’ve rethought S2 and I believe that.
Step 1 : Make a Alliance if possible.
If not Head to step 2.
Step 2 : Take The Food.
Stick around longer to see if they change there minds.
Step 3 : If very low on food take them under force and use as possible future food source (yes Survival Cannibalism) If that desperate.
^ Something comes at me with the intent to kill me Zombie Human or any thing i will destroy it, If threat of death comes from lack of food i will go to the extreme by eating others that’s just my nature always put my survival above everyone including my own family. If they slow me down well to bad for them I won’t risk my life for any body. I am the kind of person who doesn’t give any Defecate what happens to the Human Race as long as I get to die of old age and get to watch society collapse. Animalia- Chordata- Mammalia- Primates- Hominidae- Hominini- Homo- H. sapiens are Dumb ass species that probably create that Virus that brings it to it knees and its Extinction I have already named that Virus which is Viradae- Mononegavirales- Rhabdoviridae- Lyssavirus- Humana. vivum. Mortuus.
Haslantis on 06 Jun 2012 at 2:15 am #
For those Interested in the Mononegavirales Order of virus heres a wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononegavirales that order is most likely to produce the zombie virus.
Alex on 06 Jun 2012 at 1:50 pm #
almost sounds like you are hoping for it to happen.
Angryvikingman on 06 Jun 2012 at 5:38 pm #
@alex
Whats your point?
Shadowofthepheonix on 06 Jun 2012 at 7:30 pm #
Scenario 1: If I couldn’t get the baby to be quiet it would have to die, possibly use it as bait for a zombie slaughter house…
Scenario 2:I would steal enough food to keep us alive for a couple of days and watch the kids to see if they are getting more food from somewhere. If they are I would make an alliance with them and offer protection for food.
Scenario 3:My sister is smart but no way would she be useful in a zombie apocalypse. She is extremely slow, loud and thoughtless so I would save the antibiotics for another time and wait to see if she turns if so she has the same fate as the baby.
To justify my decision with the baby.
Even though we need babies to make the next generation to survive, I believe there is no point in keeping a baby while the apocalypse is in full flight. After the amount of zombies has significantly died down we can begin to repopulate under strict protection and conditions.
Donna on 06 Jun 2012 at 11:09 pm #
The biggest secret of politics, and political strategists, is the knowledge that the majority of people are now medically, clinically, scientifically-provable brain damaged, ignorant lumbering shades of what people used to be.
The Norman Rockwell icon of the “we are just plain folks in our overalls working hard on our farms” demographic of the average citizen is gone. Replaced by a drug addled, alcohol addled, Prozac addled, junk-food-brain-damaged horde of inner city gangsters, media catatonics, trophy wives, arrogant yuppie hipsters, obese pita-pocket gobbling, Jerry Springer addicts.
In other words, a large number of the voting public are really, really dumb; Dumber than ever and easily brainwashed. They are increasing in numbers.
The CIA discovered that you can brainwash some people in a matter of hours and most people in 5 days or less. Madison Avenue then perfected their techniques. “Over-messaging” is the intelligence agency technique of brainwashing an entire country (millions of people) over the course of a year or two, with subtle concept reinforcement. It is done in a way so that the population does not really notice it and so they think it was their idea. A successfully accomplished intelligence effort of this kind is called a “regime change” or “national transition effort”, on Madison Avenue it is called a: “marketing campaign”.
The increase in Reality TV shows about exceptionally stupid people has to do with the smart people turning off their TV’s and the dumb people increasing in numbers. The dumb ones are the only ones the TV networks can get to watch but they have to meet them on their level. Domestic education scores are dropping through the basement. Many high school students can’t read a book. The population is getting stupid at the speed of light.
At college you can get smart but if you get too smart you might observe and realize all of the things in this essay are true so not everybody gets to go to college. If you aren’t addicted to something then you might see too clearly so the underwriting of the alcohol and drug industry continues (with your tax dollars)
So you have the smart ones and the dumb ones (think Morlocks and Eloi) if you run the current cycles and patterns out into the future you might actually end up with Morlocks and Eloi. (If you still know how to read books you will know what this reference is, the rest of you: Google it) One wonders if the current fad about Zombies has to do with the public’s second sight on his potential future.
Political strategists exploit the dumb hordes by triggering their primal instincts using very base advertising concepts: “The bad guys will get you if you don’t vote for us” (Fear); “You won’t be able to get money to pay for your addictions if you don’t let us create the jobs” (Security); etc. An entire campaign can be won without the need to appeal to any intelligent voters. The bestial ones can bring in the majority more often than not.
If you are reading this, you may be saying: “oh, I’m not one of them” but if you don’t read the news daily from multiple sources, if you only have products from the eye-level shelf at Safeway in your cupboards and if you watch “reality TV” shows… you just might be one. But you have one last chance to escape…
The only advantage that one side has over the other is money. If the law, the Constitution and the public demand said that every penny spent by one voice in an issue must be equal to that spent by any other voice, almost all of the injustice issues would dissolve. The sides that have all of the money will never let such a law exist. Your only hope is to change that!
Make the law or end up as a Zombie!
HangMan on 07 Jun 2012 at 1:36 pm #
I agree with Viking. The “survival guide,” is a joke. It’s more likely to get you killed.
CompShooter on 07 Jun 2012 at 8:25 pm #
Yeah, the occupy wall street hippies are a perfect example of the unwashed brainwashed entitlement bottom feeders. AKA obama zombies , but I digress …back on topic.
HangMan on 08 Jun 2012 at 9:39 pm #
comp, probably the best idea to leave political opinions out of the forum’s. :/
Sasuke on 09 Jun 2012 at 11:54 am #
Ok scenario1
If the baby is crying its already attracting the undead to the hideout , further more, I do not suppose staying underground , zombies , though they can move they are not the smartest things , and who’s to say the zombies are the slow kind, ever watch “I am Legend™” those buggers can RUN, so I’d get one of the faster members in the group to take the baby down the street in opposite direction we are headed, and they’d have to get the baby to cry a lot! So it can attract attention(so get the baby cold by wetting it) , I’m not married yet , but I really do want kids , with that in mind , I want to live to have kids ,
Scenario2
After walking in the opposite direction of the baby , if my group and I came across the kids with the supplies we would ask where have they been getting their supplies from, and they’d show us after that we would trade they meds for food , and ask them if they’d like to join us if , if they resist , well we have power in numbers , my friend and I are going for katana training and we have ordered bleach katana, battle ready.. So if they resist , they’d have to to be restrained with rope , so they can still break free once we have left and we’d make a clean escape , leave them with a day supply of water , no food , they can get food from where ever they had been getting theirs from
Scenario 3
I have an older sister, and even though she moved out this year I still love her to bits ,I would restrain her with chains, then try the meds , and see if the infection stops if it spreads and she starts developing zombie like characteristics wed leave her chained and move on.
My friend and are currently planning a survival method , the key thing is you are never safe , just safer than you were one hideout ago, so they key thing is to keep moving , have your core group and keep it small. If somebody is infected or bitten/ scratched , they are going to cover it up , so keep in mind anyone could turn , my friend and I have promised if we get even a little nick on us to tell each other , wed have a rendezvous
point where if I didn’t change wed meet up there , sorry this is so long :D
Sasuke G-kun on 09 Jun 2012 at 12:15 pm #
Ok here is my justification I dunna if you guys know this , but.. Raising a baby is a HECK of a job! , and not to mention it takes years! Haha so keeping the baby would probably kill us in the near future , heck , if I’m choosing who I’m saving , there’s a hot chick I know who’s really smart , and she can be in charge of the portions of food we each get as well as shed help re populate the earth ;).
Staying underground also means zombies can fall in, which means it’ll be a matter of seconds till we all chopped..
The kids have survived long enough , starting from scrath won’t be too difficult for them , so joining us is easier , and probably wisest seeing that we have zombie combat techniques.. Killing them is not an option, we had to use the baby as bait , besides , a baby can’t run so it turning won’t be a problem..
A chained zombie is as good as a dead zombie , though I don’t have the heart to kill her , I’m not dumb enough to let her tag along
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Slayer on 10 Jun 2012 at 12:18 am #
1. Lots of ways to quiet a baby, and I might as well become a zombie if the first thing I do is kill an innocent baby.
2. Join up. Defense is stronger in greater numbers. Share and build a safe zone. Do the group thing.
3 use antibiotics. They have a looking shelf life if they are in tablet form. Contrary to what pharmacies tell you, most antibiotics like penicillin and others have a 10 + year shelf life. I have a masters in chemistry and work for a pharmaceutical company. Trust me, I know.
Kat on 10 Jun 2012 at 4:39 am #
Scenario 1
I would do anything to keep the baby alive, so I’d have my group move out. Let’s face it, the basement wouldn’t keep you safe for long anyway.
Scenario 2
I would offer for them to join us, barter with them, or if none of that works then I would steal most of their supplies.
Scenario 3
I would tie my sister up and give her the antibiotics, and if she starts to turn then I would either leave her or kill her. I know it would be better for her to die with some sanity as herself then to become inhuman.
wheelgunner on 10 Jun 2012 at 11:49 am #
I would like to point out the kids, in a group, particularly when people have or may be about to steal everything from them, have a tendancy to react badly to your presence.
Olivia on 10 Jun 2012 at 5:35 pm #
Scenario 1:
The baby is obviously a liability, harsh but true. There are probably other ways to quiet it, but in the long run, it’s going to slow us down and deplete our resources. Also, it’s unfair to bring the baby up into a world where everything is violent and uncertain. Imagine for a moment that everyone in the group was killed, the baby would then be unable to fend for itself and would inevitably die a violent, painful death.
To be honest, I would kill the baby right at the beginning.
Scenario 2:
There is no reason why we have to steal all their food. It is survival of the fittest, but that doesn’t mean we have to do the zombie’s job for them. I would wait until the coast was clear and take enough food for one meal for everyone in my group to keep us going until we come across a supermarket or something similar.
Many people would think pairing up would be ideal, but some groups can be too big and end up slowing you down. Also, who wants to team up with a bunch of kids? I’m a kid, and I don’t even want to team up with them.
Scenario 3:
Give her the antibiotics… It’s possible she has been infected, but not too likely. For the virus to pass into someone else, blood or saliva from the zombie has to go into the bloodstream of the person. Ergo, it is possible that my sister has just received a scratch and nothing more. At the end of the day, antibiotics are for healing and this is the kind of situation that calls for them. If it so happens that she was infected and she turns, oh well, we know the virus does transfer that way now.
Angryvikingman on 11 Jun 2012 at 9:24 pm #
Ok, got a rifle article worked up. I’ll have it posted in a day or so. Just need to snag some links, and whatnot.
big bear29 on 23 Jun 2012 at 7:24 pm #
scenario 1
There are so many ways to shut up a baby that it is pretty ridiculous that so many are eager to resort to killing it . I have a TON of nieces and nephews and I have had to baby sit most of them and it is fairly easy to quiet a baby . All the people that think it is difficult to quiet a child are either crappy parents that expect babies to take care of themselves or they don’t have children to begin with . So no I wouldn’t kill the kid .
scenario 2
I would try to barter with them and offer them safety in numbers . If that fails I would leave and hang back at a distance where I can see them but they don’t know I’m around and I would follow them to whatever place they have been raiding for food and once they are gone I would go in and take whatever I could without causing a fight . So many of you assume that those kids have survived by shear dumb luck it seems that none of you have even considered that those kids may be better killers than you are . For all you know those kids have taken those supplies off of the bodies of other fools that have tried to rob them . For all you know you could be trying to act like a tough guy to a pack of pint-sized jack-the-rippers .
Also kids these days are fairly ignorant about some things that we take for granted . Like the shelf life of certain foods for instance . Those kids that so many of you are eager to rob could be hoarding a stockpile of half rotten food that would kill you if you ate it .
scenario 3
Take her somewhere away from your base/camp and restrain her with chains and give her whatever meds you can spare . If she gets better then you have some idea of what medicines to use to fight a “possible” infection of the zombie virus . If she turns , kill her simple as that .
babylover on 26 Jun 2012 at 7:36 pm #
1. As has been said, there are many ways to quiet a baby. I would personally slit the throat of anyone who suggested killing it.
2. I would offer alliance. I would not steal from them. With so many people wandering around as the undead it shouldn’t be too hard to find canned goods. Zombies wont be raiding walmarts or pantries.
3. Tie her up and watch her. We should be able to tell if she is turning zombie or if the scratch is just infected. Use the meds if its he latter.
The Rambos here are hilarious. Its not so easy to turn killer just because its the end of the world. You’ll be the first to go, either froze up when you needed to move or shot by someone you tried to screw over. Idiots.
Angryvikingman on 26 Jun 2012 at 8:08 pm #
Well, I’ve got news for you. I have 3 kids. THERE IS NO WAY TO QUIET A CHILD WHEN THEY’RE HUNGRY, HURT, OR OTHERWISE DISINCLINED TO BE QUIET.
Get your heads out of your asses. NO matter how good you are with kids. You may get them to be quiet EVENTUALLY, but it could take a while. Meanwhile, you’re being torn apart by zombies.
I’m not saying kill the child, I couldn’t do it, but I know the reality of crying babies, because I have to try and sleep near one on a nightly basis.
Castle83 on 09 Jul 2012 at 7:18 pm #
1. I think alot of people are missing the spirit behind scenario 1. There are “10,000″ zombies within earshot of this screaming baby. I think fighting your way out against such great numbers (1,000 to 1) is laughable.
I also agree that your humanity has to take presidence whenever possible because otherwise what the hell are we trying to live for? However, if the baby is going to bring the zombies down on you, your looking at casualties of 10 people and a baby. If the baby dies, you will most likely save 10 people and have only one casualty.
That being said, I would do what I could to keep the baby quiet. If I could not, the smart move would be muffle it with a pillow or hand and hope you didn’t suffocate it. If that still doesn’t work, the baby should die to save everyone (1 death is better than 11 imo). That would be the smart move, though i’m hesitant to say that I would be able to do such a thing.
2. I don’t think there is enough info to properly gauge this senario. Is your group of 3 armed? How many kids are there? What age? are they armed as well? These answers would dictate different responses.
Knowing my current load out and assuming they are kids I could overpower, I would:
First try to bring the kids into my group, they may not be skilled but again your humanity has to take presidence sometimes. If they did not want to join up I would attempt to take “some” of there rations by force. Remember, at this point my family and I are starving and need it more. If it escaltes to the point of violence I would do what I had to to feed my family. Violence would be a last resort.
3. This is pretty straight forward to me. This is my sister so I will do everything in my power to keep her alive. I would restrain her and give her the antibiotics. If it works great. If not, at least I know I did everything in my power to save her. If she turns, I would put her out of her misery. I am a little disheartend that people would hold back anti-biotics on the off chance they could use it and let their sister die.
ZNinja on 12 Jul 2012 at 3:59 pm #
scenario 1: I have an infant and yeah he cries when he’s hungry, but he can be sated long enough to allow time for my wife to get setup to breastfeed. So, potentially killing an infant is out of the question. Also, there are definitely ways to calm a baby that is hungry, tired, wet, what have you. Besides, if in a basement, I would think it would be pretty sound proof unless it’s a daylight basement, in which case, is a horrible place to hide to begin with.
scenario 2: form an alliance or barter. if they start a fight, I fight back.
scenario 3: she will get tied up and will try anything to see if she turns or not.
Angryvikingman on 12 Jul 2012 at 9:49 pm #
@Zninja
You’re missing the point. If your wife didn’t have a boob ready to go, how long would that child cry? What if she wasn’t lactating? There are times when you can’t make a kid stop crying.
kez on 19 Jul 2012 at 7:54 pm #
scenario 1: Give the baby to a girl, let the baby suck on thumb/craddle the baby and possibly sing a quiet lulabby. Fortify the doors and windows and place a blanket(s) around the open parts of the doors so NO sound can be heard. If the baby continues to be loud, lightly cover the baby with a blanket but still craddle (it will be able to breathe). if they DO still hear, then open a window and get out one at a time, and run quietly and swiftly into the nearest forest or empty/safe house. (id also ask my group on what they think we should do so that noone gets blammed for anything)
scenario 2 – we are a group of NORMAL HUMANS. not theives or canibals. we stick together, hunt and rassion until we get more food! if there is heaps of guns and men, send about three with guns to find food until the next day and then return. Leave at least 4 men with guns and ammo with the women/children and hide.
scanario 3 – give her antibotics because why not?? no better person that a family member to help. (but i dont even have a sister so this question doesnt apply to me. ) if she does become infected (zombie) kill her.
brian on 21 Jul 2012 at 4:51 am #
Okay,here r my answers.
Scenario 1:ummm,I don’t think its that hard 2 keep a baby quiet.I wouldn’t kill it or leave it 2 die.so,I would wait 4 da zombies 2 past.
Scenario 2:hhmmmmm,I know I wouldn’t kill them.I would try Ep2 get some supplies from them n a peaceful&calm manner.
Scenario 3:first of all,I wouldn’t bring my kid sister out on a scavenging trip.but if she ever did get scratched,I would try all da antibiotics I had.
bad zombie dreams on 22 Jul 2012 at 2:30 pm #
So for scenario one i think that people are forgetting a few things… one… there are 10,000 zombies passing, meaning they are probably making some noise themselves its not going to be so quiet that u can hear a pin drop…2. The baby was found in that house so there are probably some items within the house u can use to quiet the baby,all else fails im stickin my boob in the kids mouth and hopefully by the time the baby figures out they are empty the hoard is passed… 3.. if im dumb enough to lock myself in a basement with ten others and this baby i would have had the sound issue figured out before i locked myself in there! And finally babies have very little sense of taste, ever heard of going all Africa and using ur own saliva and mouth as a bottle? Kids adapt… scenario two im going to either barter or invite the kids food and all… thievery would be a last resort… for scenario 3 im giving her the meds, tying her up and if she turns then i will kill her..:-(
Jesa on 03 Aug 2012 at 8:18 am #
Scenario 1 fine the baby don t quiet i must fight these stupid zombie and with a weapon 50-50win and kill the zombie.Scenario 2 follow the kids maybe he find more.Scenario 3 just shoot in his head or maybe use meds and maybe fail and turn one of them kill her.
Ally on 05 Aug 2012 at 8:39 am #
I’m only 14, but I would hope to stay alive during this.
Scenario 1: I wouldn’t want to harm the baby but if I have tried to keep it quiet and everything has failed, I would put my hand over the babies mouth to quiet it. Rather have 1 die then all 10 in my group.
Scenario 2: I would attempt to gain their trust and convince them that we all need to stick together or persuade them to give us some food and be on our way. If they refuse all offers, then I would put a bullet through their brain and take everything.
Scenario 3: Seeing that she has a scratch and she is having strange symptoms, I would restrain her and wait for 5 – 10 minutes to see what happens. If she turns, kill her with no hesitation. If she doesn’t then I would clean the wound and give her medicine. Most likely with those symptoms though, she would turn.
Zombiekiller1318 on 07 Aug 2012 at 12:26 am #
Very interesting responses to the scenarios. Here’s my thoughts:
#1 – sorry but the baby is just another mouth to feed and can’t fend for itself, which means one of my group will have to be burdened by caring for it. This means the group will have to pick up the slack for two people basically. So if the attempts to quiet the baby failed, sorry baby but you do nothing for us and only require more resources and can’t provide anything. As said before…survival of the fittest. At this point our “normal” way of life is dead and I have only one desire…SURVIVAL!!!
#2 – I would try to get the kids to join my group. They clearly probably have a great skill set of scavenging which could be helpful to all of us. If they will not join us…I am very confident in my abilities and skills but my main goal is survival and if these kids can find provisions so can I. So I would probably leave it alone.
#3 – I have sisters so this hits home for me. I would definitely try the antibiotics. If she is just sick due to the scratch getting infected (normal cold) then she should get better and be able to rejoin the group. She would have to be restrained though to protect the group in case she is getting sick from being infected with the z-virus. If she turns into a drooling, groaning and blood thirsty zombie then it is my responsibility to put one in her head. And let’s face it she’s no longer my sister.
(I typed this on my home so I apologize for any poor grammar or typos)
killZs0403 on 17 Aug 2012 at 10:27 am #
Scenario 1.
I would rather have a child die a quick painless death than let it die a gruesome painful one at the hands of a pack of zombies. That being said, I would do my best to keep it safe and alive but if less than ideal circumstances were to come up (shortage of food, serious group safety issues, etc.) the survival of the group would have to come first. Let’s face it, a baby has 0 survival chances on its own, so if the group’s survival is affected by having a baby, hard decisions will have to be made.
Scenario 2.
I would try to create an alliance with the kids, offering protection by being part of a stronger group than themselves. They have managed to survive so far, so it can be safe to assume that they can take care of themselves and won’t represent much of a strain on the group. Besides they may have skills or knowledge useful to the group such as scavenging and getting into small spaces and kids can carry weapons. If they refuse ask for food in exchange of letting them be and moving on.
Scenario 3.
Use the antibiotics, you can always find some later on. Restrain her and her under 24/7 surveilance. See what happens have a weapon at hand.
Amy on 17 Aug 2012 at 3:32 pm #
Here’s my take on the three posted scenarios. I’m not saying they’re the right decisions, just the ones I would make, and every situation that involves people is dynamic and constantly changing. We have to think on our feet and adapt to it, or die. This goes for everything, not just a zombie-apocalypse scenario.
Scenario 1: I’m not a mother, but I am a woman, and I know a thing or two about human nature. There are plenty of ways to quiet a baby, and there are plenty of ways to quickly and quietly sound-proof or at least dampen the sounds coming from the basement. Chances are that with TEN THOUSAND zombies walking by, they’re making more than enough noise to drown out the baby’s cries, especially in a basement. Also, remember that there are ten people in there with you. Ten normal, everyday people. Not ten trained soldiers. Not ten sociopaths. Ten normal people from around the neighborhood. I can GUARANTEE you that the moment someone suggests or tries to kill the baby, at least half of those people are going to freak out about it. And believe me, ten people arguing over whether or not to kill a baby is a lot louder than one crying baby.
And don’t bother saying that you’d kill the baby without discussing it with the others. As soon as someone noticed that the baby was dead, and it was YOU trying to quiet it, you’d have a riot on your hands.
So to sum up: Quiet the baby and/or use clothing and such to muffle the sound.
Scenario 2: There are too many variables here, I think. According to the scenario, myself and two others are weak and starving, but we’re still going out and scavenging, which means our scavenging efforts have yielded us nothing. So ‘going out and finding it somewhere else’ isn’t really an option. Now the question becomes, where are the kids getting the food? How many kids are there, as the scenario only lists ‘some’? By kids, do you mean children or teenagers?
Given the information I have, I would probably do my best to follow the kids and find out where they’re getting the food. If I can get food for my family there without the kids ever even knowing we’re around, all the better. I would feed my family, and when we had our strength back, we’d approach the kids safely and from a distance, and suggest an alliance.
On the other hand, if the food the kids have is ALL the food in the area, then in a few days those kids are going to be in the same boat my family is. I would propose an alliance right away, distribute the food evenly so we’re all in good shape, and then as a group we can move on to a new area with (hopefully) better resources.
If all of the above fails, then… sorry kids. If they won’t ally with us, they refuse to share their food, and there’s no other food to be had in the area, then I’ll be stealing it. Not all of it, but just enough for my family to regain their strength so we can move on. No sense staying in an area with no food, and hopefully it will be a wake-up call to those kids. Might even be doing them a favor in the long run, teaching them to protect what they have better, and getting them to move on to a new area with better resources.
Scenario 3: I’d have to agree with 90% of the other posters. This one’s a no-brainer, pardon the pun. I would restrain her and give her the antibiotics. As has already been said before, if it doesn’t work then we know that the zombie infection is spread through scratches, and that antibiotics are useless against it. If it does work, then we can be happy knowing we saved a life.
What would make this more complicated is if my group were on the move, and unable to hole up somewhere for a few days while we waited to see if her condition improved. What I might do then is find a small, secure area where I feel comfortable leaving her restrained, along with one other member of my team (possibly myself) and enough food and water for the two of them for three days. The rest of the group would scout out the area and look for something more secure and big enough for all of us to move her to. If there isn’t anything close by, I’d have them continue on without me and my sister, leaving us in the small secure area. I’d have them leave me food and water for a few days and enough weapons to defend myself, and give them instructions to leave me easy-to-follow signs so I can track them and catch up later. It would really suck if my sister turned and I was on my own… but better to risk the lives of two than risk the lives of all.
Baronvonkickazz on 19 Aug 2012 at 12:31 am #
I’m not realy certain but when I think of 1 I think of self sacrifice and so if in the first I would get as far away from there as possible and make tons of noise then turn towards them and fight off as many as I can before I get torn to ribbons I never think much of my own life or safety for 2 I would attempt a barter and see if they would join us for abetter chance at survival if they didn’t hang around for a chance that they change their mind and for the 3rd give her a healthy dosage of the drugs
Michael on 19 Aug 2012 at 8:17 pm #
1. If theres 10,000 zombies, I’d rather kill an innocent little baby than be eaten alive. Also, a baby is one mouth to feed that can’t give back to the group. And lets be honest here, who would want to raise a baby in a zombie apocalypse? I wouldn’t want to grow up to people eating each other.
2. Well, seeing that I’m only 12 myself, I wouldn’t want to do that to fellow surviving children. But I would ask them where they got it, and ask for half to trade for weapons, and if necessary, pop one between there eyes.
3. It’s my sister (even though I don’t have one), I think that’s rhetorical. I would test the antibiotics, but in a zombie apocalypse, you would think that you would know the symptoms of the virus, since people are getting bit all around you. But if you still don’t know the symptoms of a zombie bite, or the symptoms are similiar to infections, you should test the antibiotics. Still, the sickness coming right after a scratch is pretty coincidential. If it came down to it, I would shoot her.
Michael on 19 Aug 2012 at 8:25 pm #
And one more thing, how would a scratch transmit the virus? I guess some flesh or blood could get in your bloodstream, which is pretty obvious that that would infect you. By the way, I’m pretty sure bites transmit the virus with saliva.
wheelgunner on 23 Aug 2012 at 6:34 pm #
Who knows? I know that the rotting tissue would be full of crap that will kill you regardless. The scratch would give any or all of that access to the body, zombie or no.
TEOATTC on 12 Sep 2012 at 10:41 pm #
1. The baby is a liability. I wouldnt want to necessarily kill the baby, but i dont want it attracting zombies either. Probably covering its mouth would be the best thing to get it quiet in a hurry, if it dies it was for the good of protecting the group.
2. Trying to get the kids into your group would be a good thing. If they have lots of supplies they are obviously good scavengers.
3. You would have to give her a chance by giving her some antibiotics, but she would also have to be tied up and guarded. If she turned you at least did all you could.
Zero on 30 Sep 2012 at 5:57 pm #
1. There are a lot of ways to keep a baby quiet – and I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know any of them. I would try everything I could think of, but I know that if it came down to it I wouldn’t have it in me to sacrifice the child myself. Truthfully, however, I know that in a large group of people it wouldn’t fall to me to be the leader. The choice would lie with someone else and if that’s what they decided? I’m not sure I’d argue with them.
2. I agree with the majority; the best outcome would be to have the kids join your group of survivors. However in this apocalyptic environment you don’t know who you can trust. At the same time, above all things, we cannot lose our humanity. I’d take half the food and water with my apologies.
3. Antibiotics are used to combat bacterial infections; if the sickness is caused by a virus it’s likely they wouldn’t do any good. On the other hand this is my sister we’re talking about. There’s no such thing as wasting medication if there’s a chance it’ll work. Give her the drugs and monitor her reaction.
Lord Victus on 20 Oct 2012 at 8:45 pm #
Food, water, shelter – everyone needs them. Hopefully I don’t have to go and take what I need and negotiations go well. If I have tradable goods then perhaps my family eats. This being America I believe that Americans would be more likely to help out their fellow humans, if not….well my family needs to eat and those supplies are likely mine.
If my kid sister gets scratched I wait. I watch her for every second she is ill. It could be infection from a nasty claw and not the infection that turns zeds into zeds. The antibiotics I would use would be to combat her fever and ease her suffering. Once she has turned….well she is not my sister anymore and down she goes.
People need to think things through. on 24 Oct 2012 at 5:44 am #
I wonder if people every think about what would you do after the zombies passed with a baby? You found this baby remember, the mom probably isn’t around. What are the chances that a women in your group has a breast full of milk.
You’re most likely partly dehydrated and malnutrition yourself from lack of food and water. How are yo gong to take care of this baby? If it can’t be breast feed, and you can barely feed yourself.
I think people fail to think logically and look at the bigger picture. The chances of the babe surviving are slim. It wll most likely subcum to malnutriotun just like you. It’s prone to getting sick easily too. Are telling me that you’d rather an infant suffer a slow painful death? Rather than mercy killing it.
1. I’d try my best, but I think a mercy kill is better. In the current environment the likelihood of a baby surviving is slim. Instead of holding a dying infant in my arms for weeks, I’d rather put it to rest.
2. Have the kids join us, show them what we can offer besides taking their resources.
3. I’d watch her closely before making any decisions. Of course I’d still feed her, and give her the antibiotics.
wheelgunner on 27 Oct 2012 at 2:00 am #
If you keep at it, breast milk apparently just shows up to feed a baby. Kind of neat.
justaperson on 26 Nov 2012 at 6:54 pm #
1 Okay, so I know it’s harsh, but I’d have to risk the suffocation of the baby because one death is better than 10 deaths, and the baby would probobaly die either way because if you go try to fight that many zombies in limited space you’re most likely going to die. So it would be better for everyone if the baby was just gone.
2 I would decide if the kids were a threat to me or not before I would either trade with them or kill them and take their things.
3 Well, I’m not sure. If she shows signs of anything or if she starts acting strangely, I would be a bit more precautious around her. Like I would have a weapon on me at all times. But it would depend on if the scratch effects her or not.
Jordan on 29 Nov 2012 at 3:30 am #
Scenario 1- I would first see if the baby would suck on my finger, if not I would quiet it by covering its mouth with my hand. If the zombies find us, the baby dies anyways plus all of us so I’ll take my chances with suffocation and I’d be okay.
Scenario 2- First I’d strategically place a shooter somewhere in the area in case negotiations deteriorate. I might try and get them to join my group (strength in numbers, less guard shifts so more sleep). One way or the other though one way or the other.
Scenario 3- I’d give her the antibiotics, I really never use medicine anyways. Then I’d monitor her. Her hands and feet would be bound when we were sleeping (there will always be a guard posted when we sleep anyway). If she got better, great. If she deteriorated, died, and turned. Then she’d be shot.
SBR_GUY on 30 Nov 2012 at 6:08 pm #
Scenario 1
I would go with the quiet the baby with my hand. If the zombies hear the baby we are all going to die, so the chance of the baby possibly suffocating to save the group just has to be. Sorry baby.
Scenario 2
This one has two outcomes. 1) Join us and share your food and supplies and have a better chance against the zombies, or 2) I take all there stuff and leave them for dead. I have to think of my group and our lives.
Scenario 3
I love my sister and would do anything for her, but the fact that she is more than likely infected I would save the medicine, tie her up and monitor her and if she did not turn then good for all, but if she did then it is no longer my sis and she would be shot.